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MineralMan

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43. No, actually I didn't. Your topic was

Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:09 PM

Jan 2014

loss of energy through reduction in mass due to separation of the total mass. A 00 buckshot load also loses energy for each piece of shot, compared to a slug, but is amazingly lethal. Like this new design, it reduces the accuracy requirement, which is the goal of the projectile in the original article.

It's all a ballistic compromise, really. I wouldn't choose a .45 pistol as a defensive weapon in the first place, and I'm a fair competitive shooter with the 1911 Colt. Even with the round described in the OP, it would not be my weapon of choice. But, then, the likelihood that I will need a defensive firearm at all is minuscule, so it's all academic.

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Good News! New bullet expands itself into four connected parts to kill better [View all] onehandle Jan 2014 OP

Uh.... CherokeeDem Jan 2014 #1

"But wtf is semi-lethal??" jberryhill Jan 2014 #9

Good enough explanation for me.... CherokeeDem Jan 2014 #16

See it in action... Skinner Jan 2014 #2

Are the bullets made of anti-matter? clffrdjk Jan 2014 #3

No. The spin produced by the rifling MineralMan Jan 2014 #8

Grapeshot. That was the term I was searching for. enlightenment Jan 2014 #14

Chainshot, too. MineralMan Jan 2014 #15

Definitely. enlightenment Jan 2014 #17

I have no idea. Not much, I imagine. Design of projectiles isn't MineralMan Jan 2014 #37

Limited energy is lost clffrdjk Jan 2014 #18

'Or do you want to ban everything?' MineralMan Jan 2014 #21

No the counter to your post was the clffrdjk Jan 2014 #22

Please proceed... MineralMan Jan 2014 #23

Not really, a bullet MUST penetrate sufficiently to kill. This is a gimmick. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #24

Agreed and that is my point. These seem like bean bag rounds for pistols. clffrdjk Jan 2014 #27

I concur. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #28

Frankly, at handgun ranges, my choice would be MineralMan Jan 2014 #38

I think you responded to the wrong post. clffrdjk Jan 2014 #41

No, actually I didn't. Your topic was MineralMan Jan 2014 #43

Right clffrdjk Jan 2014 #47

Please proceed. MineralMan Jan 2014 #53

Wait, you deride hollow point, but go with #00 buck? nine 33 caliber bullets at 1,200fps?!? X_Digger Jan 2014 #67

Out of curiosity, do you believe that hollow point bullets should be banned? (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #33

Which hollow point bullets? MineralMan Jan 2014 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #51

Perhaps you were not aware of this but the reason the military does not use hollow point bullets ... spin Jan 2014 #54

Federal SWC target rounds. That's what I have on hand. MineralMan Jan 2014 #55

That's fine. No problem. Have a good day and stay warm. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #58

Neat! Glassunion Jan 2014 #4

Careful, now. Our Gun Enthusiasts will accuse you of class-based elitism. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #5

Sounds like chain-shot to me. arbusto_baboso Jan 2014 #6

What is the purpose of this? ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #7

Considering how survivable gun shots are hack89 Jan 2014 #11

Ummm... no. Adrahil Jan 2014 #25

There is this program that they can attach to guns that makes them never miss. Xyzse Jan 2014 #10

Hand grenades. A better way to make a point. n/t malthaussen Jan 2014 #12

In military combat, yes. For civilian self defense against a criminal not so much. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #59

That's one way to do it. Glassunion Jan 2014 #13

At close range and in skilled hands a sword is far more lethal then a handgun. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #35

Oh, the gun nutters will be Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #19

Better there than on this thread...... (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #26

No thanks... sarisataka Jan 2014 #20

+1000 (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #60

In my younger years RadleyJ Jan 2014 #29

They do the same thing with rubber balls jmowreader Jan 2014 #42

An improved bolo bullet? Kaleva Jan 2014 #30

I think it funny that guns make you automatically think of sex hack89 Jan 2014 #31

If all you have is a hammer......(nt) blueridge3210 Jan 2014 #32

Zimmerman types are ecstatic. Hoyt Jan 2014 #34

I doubt any of the pieces would have the mass needed to penetrate... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #39

Why this won't work jmowreader Jan 2014 #40

It's not a serious round, anyhow. It's a design exercise. MineralMan Jan 2014 #44

A useless bullet H. Cromwell Jan 2014 #46

Seems to me the spin would almost stop as soon as the pieces spread. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #65

Other multiple projectile rounds are available and have been for years. ... spin Jan 2014 #45

just maybe onethatcares Jan 2014 #48

Pffft. Rocket launchers are the way to go. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #50

Sad ... RKP5637 Jan 2014 #52

If the guvment can't infringe on my right to keep and bare arms doc03 Jan 2014 #56

I never known a gun owner who had any desire to own a nuke. ... spin Jan 2014 #63

Well why can't I at least have a functioning doc03 Jan 2014 #64

The weapons you describe are used by military forces in combat. ... spin Jan 2014 #66

Smaller bullets will disable, not kill an enemy resulting in two solders helping him egold2604 Jan 2014 #57

It appears the anti-gunners are getting hot and bothered the most. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #61

No, the gunners are off fondling their weapons in anticipation. Hoyt Jan 2014 #68

Well, at least more efficient means of murder aren't "woo". Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #62

Yeah... It's All Science, For The Advancement Of The Species... WillyT Jan 2014 #70

Oh yeah. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #69