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clffrdjk

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47. Right

Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:28 PM

Jan 2014

Last edited Tue Jan 7, 2014, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

You really think the energy of a 12 gauge is comparable to a .45 don't be intentionally dense. Let's just see what the penetration tests have to say about these rounds.

This is a strange turn of play I don't want to use them but don't care if others do you want to ban them and are trying to gain my support of this round In order to try and somehow prove that you are right to want to ban them. All while saying that your favorite 12 gauge round is comparable. I hope you stretch before your mental gymnastics.

Don't tell me that your .45 hasn't left the safe in years and then in the next post claim to be a fair competitive shooter.

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Uh.... CherokeeDem Jan 2014 #1

"But wtf is semi-lethal??" jberryhill Jan 2014 #9

Good enough explanation for me.... CherokeeDem Jan 2014 #16

See it in action... Skinner Jan 2014 #2

Are the bullets made of anti-matter? clffrdjk Jan 2014 #3

No. The spin produced by the rifling MineralMan Jan 2014 #8

Grapeshot. That was the term I was searching for. enlightenment Jan 2014 #14

Chainshot, too. MineralMan Jan 2014 #15

Definitely. enlightenment Jan 2014 #17

I have no idea. Not much, I imagine. Design of projectiles isn't MineralMan Jan 2014 #37

Limited energy is lost clffrdjk Jan 2014 #18

'Or do you want to ban everything?' MineralMan Jan 2014 #21

No the counter to your post was the clffrdjk Jan 2014 #22

Please proceed... MineralMan Jan 2014 #23

Not really, a bullet MUST penetrate sufficiently to kill. This is a gimmick. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #24

Agreed and that is my point. These seem like bean bag rounds for pistols. clffrdjk Jan 2014 #27

I concur. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #28

Frankly, at handgun ranges, my choice would be MineralMan Jan 2014 #38

I think you responded to the wrong post. clffrdjk Jan 2014 #41

No, actually I didn't. Your topic was MineralMan Jan 2014 #43

Right clffrdjk Jan 2014 #47

Please proceed. MineralMan Jan 2014 #53

Wait, you deride hollow point, but go with #00 buck? nine 33 caliber bullets at 1,200fps?!? X_Digger Jan 2014 #67

Out of curiosity, do you believe that hollow point bullets should be banned? (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #33

Which hollow point bullets? MineralMan Jan 2014 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #51

Perhaps you were not aware of this but the reason the military does not use hollow point bullets ... spin Jan 2014 #54

Federal SWC target rounds. That's what I have on hand. MineralMan Jan 2014 #55

That's fine. No problem. Have a good day and stay warm. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #58

Neat! Glassunion Jan 2014 #4

Careful, now. Our Gun Enthusiasts will accuse you of class-based elitism. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #5

Sounds like chain-shot to me. arbusto_baboso Jan 2014 #6

What is the purpose of this? ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #7

Considering how survivable gun shots are hack89 Jan 2014 #11

Ummm... no. Adrahil Jan 2014 #25

There is this program that they can attach to guns that makes them never miss. Xyzse Jan 2014 #10

Hand grenades. A better way to make a point. n/t malthaussen Jan 2014 #12

In military combat, yes. For civilian self defense against a criminal not so much. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #59

That's one way to do it. Glassunion Jan 2014 #13

At close range and in skilled hands a sword is far more lethal then a handgun. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #35

Oh, the gun nutters will be Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #19

Better there than on this thread...... (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #26

No thanks... sarisataka Jan 2014 #20

+1000 (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #60

In my younger years RadleyJ Jan 2014 #29

They do the same thing with rubber balls jmowreader Jan 2014 #42

An improved bolo bullet? Kaleva Jan 2014 #30

I think it funny that guns make you automatically think of sex hack89 Jan 2014 #31

If all you have is a hammer......(nt) blueridge3210 Jan 2014 #32

Zimmerman types are ecstatic. Hoyt Jan 2014 #34

I doubt any of the pieces would have the mass needed to penetrate... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #39

Why this won't work jmowreader Jan 2014 #40

It's not a serious round, anyhow. It's a design exercise. MineralMan Jan 2014 #44

A useless bullet H. Cromwell Jan 2014 #46

Seems to me the spin would almost stop as soon as the pieces spread. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #65

Other multiple projectile rounds are available and have been for years. ... spin Jan 2014 #45

just maybe onethatcares Jan 2014 #48

Pffft. Rocket launchers are the way to go. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #50

Sad ... RKP5637 Jan 2014 #52

If the guvment can't infringe on my right to keep and bare arms doc03 Jan 2014 #56

I never known a gun owner who had any desire to own a nuke. ... spin Jan 2014 #63

Well why can't I at least have a functioning doc03 Jan 2014 #64

The weapons you describe are used by military forces in combat. ... spin Jan 2014 #66

Smaller bullets will disable, not kill an enemy resulting in two solders helping him egold2604 Jan 2014 #57

It appears the anti-gunners are getting hot and bothered the most. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #61

No, the gunners are off fondling their weapons in anticipation. Hoyt Jan 2014 #68

Well, at least more efficient means of murder aren't "woo". Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #62

Yeah... It's All Science, For The Advancement Of The Species... WillyT Jan 2014 #70

Oh yeah. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #69