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134. Bonobo there is no way in hell you are getting an apology from me. In Prism's thread about his

Tue Jan 7, 2014, 09:00 PM

Jan 2014

rape you asked him:

Bonobo (22,648 posts)
14. Do you think the rapist became a rapist because of watching rape porn?

Or do you think that maybe they watched (if they did) rape porn because they were already predisposed to rape?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024144944#post14

There is no need for me to apologize for calling you out on this. I brought in up in your FG thread because you posted the FG thread the same day as the above post - as if your egregious comments could be neutralized by posting a pro-Feminist article. Yes, it pissed me off.

If anyone should apologize it should be you for the post above.

On edit: I don't know what you are talking about with the anti-feminist labeling - which I did not do. Both you and Katashi (or whatever his name is) have some weird theory about me having enemies/needing enemies - you are the only 2 who have said it to me and that's why you were lumped together.

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Why Women Aren�t Welcome on the Internet [View all] justiceischeap Jan 2014 OP

Gender wars: trashing Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #1

So any issue gaspee Jan 2014 #2

Posters who have to publicly announce that they're sufrommich Jan 2014 #11

... TBF Jan 2014 #168

That is exactly right kcr Jan 2014 #13

Note that the "some go too far" language isn't used often to describe members of other groups. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #28

I've noticed it, too. kcr Jan 2014 #36

To be clear, I'm not talking about one specific DU group. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #55

I know that's what you meant, I was agreeing. kcr Jan 2014 #56

Why do you need to announce this gollygee Jan 2014 #4

exactly. Whisp Jan 2014 #8

C'mon, you know exactly why. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #15

They're bullying. Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #17

That's just silly. Unless anything you don't like is bullying. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #48

Ok. It's passive-aggressive bullshit. Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #65

except they didn't walk away. they posted like 20 more times geek tragedy Jan 2014 #96

I don't think "trashing" means what he think it means.... Squinch Jan 2014 #98

that, or he meant he was trashing the thread in the manner that geek tragedy Jan 2014 #102

I'm pretty sure that's it. Squinch Jan 2014 #104

Why not? Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #22

I imagine there are many people who petulantly inform any and all of those things they dispose of... LanternWaste Jan 2014 #25

Yes there are, and when gender wars and woo threads become spam I would say they have the right to Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #29

+1 Million. Thank you. closeupready Jan 2014 #63

:) Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #119

This isn't a 'gender wars' post--it's a discussion of harassment and threats of physical geek tragedy Jan 2014 #64

Not to disagree with you but the OP posted in the first sentence they were adding to the gender wars Drew Richards Jan 2014 #144

I read it as an allusion to the fighting that has gone on here. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #145

I see thank you. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #148

it's well worth reading. cheers! nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #149

I don't know what's more amusing,dramatically sufrommich Jan 2014 #35

LOL cyberswede Jan 2014 #83

If you are trashing it I'm recommending it el_bryanto Jan 2014 #6

ditto. if it pisses off the anti-feminist crowd, it's doing something right nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #10

Haha you would label people anti-fem Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #23

so says one of the primary belligerents in those wars, who supposedly trashed geek tragedy Jan 2014 #27

Like you have credibility to pass judgement. You are simply playing to your usual audience Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #31

yes, I play to the folks here to think misogyny, sexism, along with the geek tragedy Jan 2014 #38

You play to your select posse, anyone else is just gravy Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #40

Says the poster who stated he was trashing the thread and then posted 4 more times. seaglass Jan 2014 #46

LOL!! In response to your posse,so now responding is wrong too now. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #61

I guess you changed your mind about trashing - that yellow tab lighting up is awfully enticing. seaglass Jan 2014 #67

Not at all, it stays trashed. I understand your fishing Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #69

Fishing? No, I found it funny that you were challenging someone else's credibility. Your ideas are seaglass Jan 2014 #75

I dont count you as anything. Thanks for lumping me in with Bonobo I will take that as a Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #78

Two peas in a pod. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #79

At least its not a cult. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #81

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That's really quite classless of you Bonobo Jan 2014 #126

That wasn't an attack, it was a reference to comments you made to me. seaglass Jan 2014 #127

Well frankly both of those were Bonobo Jan 2014 #130

Bonobo there is no way in hell you are getting an apology from me. In Prism's thread about his seaglass Jan 2014 #134

Look, it's quite simple. Bonobo Jan 2014 #140

Now this is just getting silly. You know you called me out in the Men's Group when I was not seaglass Jan 2014 #159

You called me out in this OP that I had nothing to do with. Bonobo Jan 2014 #161

Is this some kind of performance art? Either that or you are just yanking my chain. seaglass Jan 2014 #162

Cool, me too. Bonobo Jan 2014 #163

For the collection Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #167

On the contrary - I had no idea until now of your appalling record of anti-woman posts muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #117

Spin how you like Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #118

cheers! geek tragedy Jan 2014 #142

Fully agree etherealtruth Jan 2014 #20

gee, such a champion of women's rights showing a lack of interest geek tragedy Jan 2014 #7

From you thats a compliment :) Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #32

"gender wars . . . trash thread" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #34

Hahah, where did I say that? "gender wars . . . trash thread" You brought up misogyny and sexism. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #37

7 posts and counting. Exact quote="gender wars: trashing" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #42

I posted. I was done, and you wanted an audience Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #43

irony meter: broken cyberswede Jan 2014 #86

see #43 Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #88

What? I replied to #43 cyberswede Jan 2014 #92

Wow etherealtruth Jan 2014 #18

Maybe you ought to read it " I figured I'd add something to the DU gender wars and how SOME women" Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #39

... this isn't "one of those" stories etherealtruth Jan 2014 #47

Oh I agree, but when you watch the level of vitriolic flung at me, by the usual suspects Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #52

There are lots of people with opinions who are not allowed to post on DU. cui bono Jan 2014 #153

You just decide to make things up now? "your opinion does not include treating women with respect." Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #164

I don't see how that's making anything up. JTFrog Jan 2014 #169

10! "I won't play the gender wars" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #49

I'd just like to state that for someone proclaiming to trash a thread justiceischeap Jan 2014 #115

On ignore you go Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #30

Cool :) Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #44

Thank you for your concern YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #60

Do you know what 'trashing' a thread actually means? Matariki Jan 2014 #108

LOL, sure�..you've never been one to trash and not post another dozen times. I wish. bettyellen Jan 2014 #125

I have always gaspee Jan 2014 #3

Misogynists, homophobes, and transphobes abound on the internet once you Zorra Jan 2014 #5

even on progressive sites, they persist albeit in reduced numbers nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9

The blame-the-victim crowd is part of the problem. Cyberbullying kills geek tragedy Jan 2014 #12

This is true for unmoderated sites. ananda Jan 2014 #14

I am very careful with on-line stuff. HappyMe Jan 2014 #16

Interesting. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #19

How so? HappyMe Jan 2014 #21

That's me, too. Sissyk Jan 2014 #74

I'm careful about links too. HappyMe Jan 2014 #84

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #24

This harassment also makes it harder for women to network cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #26

You are correct etherealtruth Jan 2014 #41

Yeah, I came across this article from some female friends justiceischeap Jan 2014 #54

Other than this site, I frequent gaming sites, such as IGN.com Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #33

Here's the thing - HappyMe Jan 2014 #51

Good point. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #53

It probably is. HappyMe Jan 2014 #59

That's horrible. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #62

Oh yes, there are big issues. HappyMe Jan 2014 #71

Catfish Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #72

I agree that most wouldn't say it IRL. The question is, why is it tolerated online? Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #57

It makes me think that the people who wouldn't do this IRL justiceischeap Jan 2014 #58

I don't know why it's tolerated. HappyMe Jan 2014 #66

Very true. I've gotten into fights with family on FB that never would have happened IRL BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #73

Well said. HappyMe Jan 2014 #77

Here's the thing, the thoughts behind the "crap" are real. The fact that most of these creatures Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #93

My personal take: people will try to live up to the role online that they wish they had IRL LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #124

I've read something similar to that in ethnographies about online communities. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #128

That's a good way to think of it LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #150

Is anyone welcome on the internet? Marr Jan 2014 #45

everyone is welcome ... etherealtruth Jan 2014 #50

The internet = people who hate people Initech Jan 2014 #82

Just to be clear, I welcome the participation of women closeupready Jan 2014 #68

Yeah but it's not about disagreeing, it's about how some people disagree justiceischeap Jan 2014 #70

And, the more this stuff is dismissed as harmless in 'anonymous' discussions geek tragedy Jan 2014 #76

I'm not dismissing The Onion's tweet, that WAS horrid justiceischeap Jan 2014 #87

maybe a combo of both. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #89

There's only one way this will ever be taken seriously by the cops Redfairen Jan 2014 #80

The body of a white, middle or upper class woman, preferably pretty. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #94

or if a wall street CEO gets cyber-harassed. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #106

there are a lot of assholes on the internet RainDog Jan 2014 #85

Well said. GoneOffShore Jan 2014 #95

I can attest to that, and will leave it at that nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #90

I'd hate to be a teen today treestar Jan 2014 #97

Yeah it was rough CFLDem Jan 2014 #101

k&r Starry Messenger Jan 2014 #99

I find this article vaguely offensive. BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #100

wait, wut? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #105

There is no "vs." BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #109

Sounds like you're blaming women for the fact geek tragedy Jan 2014 #110

You and I were posting, basically the same thing, at the same time. justiceischeap Jan 2014 #112

very rarely is mine the less-snarky response. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #114

Do you have scientific data to prove the 72.5% figure is false justiceischeap Jan 2014 #111

The burden of proof is on the data-collector here, I feel. BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #131

Attacking and bullying aren't the same thing gollygee Jan 2014 #122

I absolutely concede to your point BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #129

72.5 of the incidents of harassment- so while you say "everyone gets harassed" women face it 3X bettyellen Jan 2014 #123

women don't get harrassed everywhere hfojvt Jan 2014 #152

I guess it depends on where one goes on the internets. Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #103

In the UK news today: Two guilty over abusive tweets to Caroline Criado-Perez muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #107

I'm guessing it was to fit in. That said, I know there are female cyberbullies justiceischeap Jan 2014 #113

probably a Mary Shelly fan RainDog Jan 2014 #116

Lizz Winstead talks to Raw Story about the creepy men who make the Internet a hellhole Oilwellian Jan 2014 #120

If so then it's primarily because of cowardly little shits who would never say such things in person nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #121

That's not okay. DirkGently Jan 2014 #132

these are, as the article notes, the same sorts of jerks RainDog Jan 2014 #143

I think you first call it out. DirkGently Jan 2014 #146

if you want to be a public figure, yes RainDog Jan 2014 #147

I think it also depends on the forum. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #155

yeah. my response was geared more toward professionals in the article RainDog Jan 2014 #156

I've been there, too. Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #158

twitter... RainDog Jan 2014 #170

Women are allowed on the internet? Glassunion Jan 2014 #133

We sneak out of the kitchen justiceischeap Jan 2014 #135

Do you at least put shoes on? Glassunion Jan 2014 #136

Shoes are optional justiceischeap Jan 2014 #137

Wow! Glassunion Jan 2014 #138

I had my son do it. :) nt justiceischeap Jan 2014 #139

Amazing what y'all lil ladies come up with. Glassunion Jan 2014 #141

I'm on the internet right now1 !1 111!!... TeeYiYi Jan 2014 #151

omg! me too!! yuiyoshida Jan 2014 #154

A few posts here have mentioned anonymity as part of the problem. Jim Lane Jan 2014 #157

That could be a frightening concept for some people justiceischeap Jan 2014 #160

Actually on AC 360 the panel was talking about this davidpdx Jan 2014 #165

I'm reminded of the young woman who posted the book her mom got her on Reddit justiceischeap Jan 2014 #166