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The Onion: Local Church Full Of Brainwashed Idiots Feeds Town’s Poor Every Week Nine Jan 2014 #1

+1. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #2

Is it necessary to believe in gods to help one's fellow man? BlueStreak Jan 2014 #3

Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #119

No need to bring out the strawman so soon... MellowDem Jan 2014 #36

Help me out. I am missing the point. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #46

People stevil Jan 2014 #65

I agree with that point but that's not the point of post #1. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #68

Really? stevil Jan 2014 #80

Ask the author of the post. I did by didnt get an answer. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #83

The point stevil Jan 2014 #91

how is that point relevent to the original point in the OP? Duer 157099 Jan 2014 #127

In other words a person can have some pretty twisted beliefs about imaginary friends BlueStreak Jan 2014 #134

Totally agree, but it's like asking Duer 157099 Jan 2014 #160

"if you walk to school or carry your lunch" Seeking Serenity Jan 2014 #278

If that's his point (notice he didnt stick around to discuss) then there are a lot better rhett o rick Jan 2014 #258

Only religious people are kind. dorkulon Jan 2014 #164

The point is that this OP is just smug bigotry. Nine Jan 2014 #259

Your argument is a strawman argument. The OP does not "basically" call anyone a "brainwashed idiot" rhett o rick Jan 2014 #262

How would you feel if someone described you in those terms? Nine Jan 2014 #270

How about, "Church auctions off treasures to feed poor"? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #57

"What is Something Will Never Happen for a thousand, Alex." Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #300

Yep. Unca Jim Jan 2014 #60

Depends on what sort of enlightenment you seek. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #157

Yep, Tyson is a better voice... Unca Jim Jan 2014 #172

I don't think Dawkins does that. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #177

Weird how you are so sure you understand another's motivations without asking. Unca Jim Jan 2014 #290

Yes, and I attack Libertarian ideology as well. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #292

I guess I am not explaining the point of my objection very well... Unca Jim Jan 2014 #296

Which is why chervilant Jan 2014 #247

Who said anything about proselytizing? Unca Jim Jan 2014 #291

You did, obliquely: chervilant Jan 2014 #307

Derp... Unca Jim Jan 2014 #313

Nice non sequitur MNBrewer Jan 2014 #152

K&R But this is only one of the things about religion that worries me. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #4

Yeah, exactly, often the point of some (many?) of the religious is to make other RKP5637 Jan 2014 #86

More than divisive, they program the unsullied human mind to accept the notion of completely Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #106

I'm pretty sure it was Arthur C. Clark. Hatchling Jan 2014 #169

OMG, I'm so embarrassed. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #248

It seems IMO to be a hard wired brain function, hence leading IMO to more substantive proof of the RKP5637 Jan 2014 #228

I've not read this, it sounds interesting. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #250

" ... what about those of us for whom it never made any sense, even as little kids, when we were RKP5637 Jan 2014 #297

Unrec. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #5

I unrec your unrec. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #27

ok.we disagree. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #32

I'll add my unrec to yours. I can not believe over 160 duers rec'd such a stereotyping post uppityperson Jan 2014 #269

Some don't realize how demeaning the op is. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #271

Seriously. I have not attended organized religion since I was young, but this goes beyond uppityperson Jan 2014 #272

+1 hrmjustin Jan 2014 #273

Dawkins is an ideologue on this topic, and I see no evidence he's ever given any intelligent thought struggle4progress Jan 2014 #6

Actually, ronnie624 Jan 2014 #10

As I said, there's no evidence he's ever given any serious thought to the matter struggle4progress Jan 2014 #53

Your post is an ad hominem attack against him. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #58

I'm sorry if I somehow gave you the impression I think he's an a-hole struggle4progress Jan 2014 #64

Your future in politics appears quite limited. goldent Jan 2014 #77

Might could be. Then, again, unlike Dawkins, I don't cultivate the self-indulgent habit struggle4progress Jan 2014 #92

That's okay. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #85

Thank you for giving us all permission to think! FrodosPet Jan 2014 #142

Oh, you're welcome. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #163

Well I never new much about Dawkins zeemike Jan 2014 #66

No, he doesn't have enough of a sense of humor to invent stuff like Pastafarianism struggle4progress Jan 2014 #70

! AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #219

You are as ignorant of biology as you think Dawkins is of religion. LAGC Jan 2014 #93

You know zilch about my views of biology, and you read carelessly without comprehension struggle4progress Jan 2014 #99

what?? trekbiker Jan 2014 #254

Dawkins is quite sure that any scientist who "compromises" with religious people struggle4progress Jan 2014 #277

Gould's NOMA is crap skepticscott Jan 2014 #286

"...ultimately determine every aspect of how an organism looks..." not completely true. nt yawnmaster Jan 2014 #206

Indeed. LAGC Jan 2014 #298

I don't consider him a 'demi-god'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #158

I might be one of the few who generally agree with you.. pangaia Jan 2014 #288

Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist! longship Jan 2014 #90

I agree that evolution is the key to understanding biology in the context of the other sciences struggle4progress Jan 2014 #96

Again, Dawkins (and many others) see this as an important battle. longship Jan 2014 #98

You hide far too much behind the pronoun "this" struggle4progress Jan 2014 #100

"This" is the battle between science and religion. longship Jan 2014 #105

I keep seeing people complain about the bigotry and tribalism of religion Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #112

Ironic that you do not stand and oppose those clerics who call gay people by demonic Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #120

You're not as omniscient and infallible as you presume. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #129

Half agree with you. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #130

I'm not sure "education" is the atheist panacea some presume. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #135

And plenty of those scientists don't apply the critical thinking of their disciplines to their faith NuclearDem Jan 2014 #137

The belief that all things can be explained by "science" is itself an act of faith Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #146

No, belief in the scientific method and methodological naturalism is not based on faith. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #159

"We have a fairly good grasp on the natural laws of the universe" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #165

The burden of proof and standards for scientific theory is extremely high. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #179

Um, the belief that I can remove the seat on my motorcycle with a 10mm wrench isn't 'faith'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #166

Yes, I know; I was speaking in common vernacular. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #170

I don't use the word faith in that manner. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #176

"if such things exist, and cannot be observed, described, or understood, what do we do" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #197

No we haven't. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #208

Nobody said anything about excising people. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #161

Okay but Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #168

But they don't. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #174

So you would be opposed to abolition or charity or public education Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #183

I would expect them to source that AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #185

What if an atheist claimed tht survival of the fittest Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #205

I would point out to that atheist that they are invested in the eugenics misconceptions of the 1920' AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #214

But that would merely be your opinion. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #223

But we see that struggle every day, right now. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #229

Is the world more peaceful? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #233

And where are the soviets now? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #236

Your what-ifs are all over the place here. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #220

Actually, that's pretty much where I'm heading. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #225

Actually... AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #232

That assumes resistance is always possible. Assuming resistance had been exhausted Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #235

Resistance can't BE exhausted, when that very question/option you offer is up for consideration. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #237

That's a whole other can of worms--whether religion provides the only basis for morality. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #240

It's a battle between knowledge and ignorance, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #253

Religious faiths have spawned and continue to spawn many scientists and people of knowledge. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #256

And also promote ignorance where knowledge conflicts with faith. Progressive dog Jan 2014 #257

Assumes causal link. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #263

So if a thing is negative religion is to blame, if it's a virtue religion is just a coincidence. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #264

In that example, it happens to be so, yes. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #266

The battle between people who say skepticscott Jan 2014 #317

If you think acceptance of evolution follows an easy religious/nonreligious divide, you're mistaken. Nine Jan 2014 #136

That is interesting. longship Jan 2014 #138

And what useful moral principles skepticscott Jan 2014 #285

What worries me about Dawkins is that he teaches people to be satisfied with quoting Dawkins. rug Jan 2014 #7

Like a cult. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #9

Oh, Jeez... Hissyspit Jan 2014 #12

These posts don't belong in gd. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #14

Agreed. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #23

Religion posts tend to get heated and should remain in the forums designated for them. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #25

Agreed. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #56

The pope is responsible for the recent laxity on religion in gd. Take it up with Francis :-) Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #28

Wouldn't know. I have "pope" "papal" etc Union Scribe Jan 2014 #31

Actually the fact that a thread has lots of views replies and recs has been Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #35

Flamebait isn't called that for nothing. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #38

I'm curious what great harm you think will ensue if we continue this discussion. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #40

no harm at all but what is the point of the sop if it is not enforced. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #42

As a former gd host you know quite well that it isn't that simple at all. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #48

You make good points. it is not that simple. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #50

Look downthread. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #94

skinner said they can stay for now. I agree they should not be but it is his call. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #34

When and where did he say that? Nine Jan 2014 #293

This is what I found in ata on dec 3rd. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #294

Found this as well hrmjustin Jan 2014 #295

The pope is a very public figure and a player on the world stage. zeemike Jan 2014 #71

+1,000,000 hrmjustin Jan 2014 #76

the dawkins is a very public figure and a player on the world state. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #115

The pope doesn't think women and gays deserve full rights. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #175

Allowed, but not unchallenged. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #184

You want to stop that cycle? zeemike Jan 2014 #186

Riiiight. Quietly acquiescing to the Catholic Church has been a great strategy over the centuries. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #187

Wow and instant reply zeemike Jan 2014 #188

...I thought that it was Obama's fault. SoapBox Jan 2014 #72

no, he's a muslin. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #116

? so that excuses a ridiculous slam? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #26

what the Dawkins is full of himself? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #30

really? Where does Dawkins do that specifically? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #13

$19.95 USD rug Jan 2014 #59

that is a pathetic response. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #113

The response suits the question. rug Jan 2014 #123

Wait! That's NOT the host of Family Feud! panader0 Jan 2014 #118

Yeah, it can be a turn off. I don't think people realize how they sound to others. freshwest Jan 2014 #37

+1 hrmjustin Jan 2014 #44

Personally, I don't know who Richard Dawkins is (yet). . .but I like the quote. Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #54

That you don't get the cacophonous irony of your reply is profound in itself. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #73

I'm sure you're not calling me deluded. rug Jan 2014 #79

Do you believe in a magical being that knows everything that everything does at every moment? Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #87

Do you know what magic is compared to, I don't know, religion? rug Jan 2014 #95

Are you evading the questions? They were straight forward, unambiguous. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #108

Your premise is bogus. And now you're compounding it. rug Jan 2014 #207

careful, somebody is alert trolling. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #117

Thank you. It's standard practice in this debate. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #133

The alert stalking claim is bogus. rug Jan 2014 #202

Trolling is not stalking. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #305

I defer to your expertise. rug Jan 2014 #314

I couldn't stand that movie. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #97

Thanks. I try to put concepts into a cultural narrative that will be more readily received. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #109

I love that movie-- I just try to think of it as the story of Conarnold, Conan's cousin. Marr Jan 2014 #221

I guess I shouldn't say I couldn't stand the movie ronnie624 Jan 2014 #226

What worries me about the Bible is that it teaches people to be satisfied with quoting the Bible...n SidDithers Jan 2014 #156

What worries me is how many people pop off about religion without knowing what they're talking abot. rug Jan 2014 #190

What worries me is how many people pop off about Dawkins without knowing what they''re talking about SidDithers Jan 2014 #192

What worries me is how many people buy into his Islamophobic horseshit. rug Jan 2014 #193

What worries me is how many people buy into the Pope's homophobic horseshit... SidDithers Jan 2014 #194

You have simple pleasures. rug Jan 2014 #195

Yup. Exposing hypocrisy being one of them...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #199

Irony is not. rug Jan 2014 #201

+1 cleanhippie Jan 2014 #252

Hah. You win. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #276

Which you do on a regular basis. cleanhippie Jan 2014 #249

Do what? rug Jan 2014 #251

I agree. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #8

Yep. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #11

I have to take issue with this quote. Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #15

I am so far from being religious I can't even seen a church steeple, however ... LisaLynne Jan 2014 #16

Differnce is Santorum and Bachmann talk about their religion constantly while Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #125

Self-Centered Egomaniac Paints Billions With Broad Brush. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #17

He thinks too highly of himself. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #18

That description could apply to the Pope but the OP praises and promotes the Pope Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #126

Plenty of religious leaders think too highly of themselves. Dawkins shares that with them. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #141

That's your response? The anti gay language does not matter to you? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #306

I was dawkins. you brought up the pope. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #311

+1 Glassunion Jan 2014 #29

You talking about the Pope? MellowDem Jan 2014 #39

Not a fan of Self-Centered Egomaniacs? progressoid Jan 2014 #51

Dawkins is a sexist, Islamophobic dick. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #19

That's quite a broad brush about Abrahamaic religions Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #62

I didn't say it was universal. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #75

It's no worse than believing that science will save us, Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #81

The scientific method is grounded in reality and evidence. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #84

I see 'Science' and 'religion' as pretty similarly capable of great and harmful error Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #128

This again? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #131

And or, scientists operating on the basis of religious dogma. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #216

Exactly. And any reason based person, having seen a community make such grave Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #303

Thank you! Duppers Jan 2014 #301

Presumably that explains to you why the Islamic world was a center of medieval learning, struggle4progress Jan 2014 #101

I didn't say highly-educated people couldn't be religious. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #111

Regarding the notion that Dawkins is arrogant, egomaniacal or closed-minded: dorkulon Jan 2014 #20

I do not claim to know everything. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #22

At worst, he's impolite. dorkulon Jan 2014 #149

I dont see it that way but I respect your see it differently. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #150

If the powerful convince the masses that if the poor are "good," MsPithy Jan 2014 #21

Religious thought, like every other intellectual exercise, lays traps for the lazy Maedhros Jan 2014 #24

I've always liked that quote. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #33

What worries me about Dawkins Nonhlanhla Jan 2014 #41

I don't think that it's quite correct to state that Dawkins consciously teaches people to be Maedhros Jan 2014 #52

Sarcasm... Nonhlanhla Jan 2014 #110

I find I like a lot of what most of the major prophets had to say. snot Jan 2014 #43

I'd go even further, and quote Steven Weinberg... SidDithers Jan 2014 #45

while it sounds reasonable, G_j Jan 2014 #47

Sometimes true. iandhr Jan 2014 #49

Which Dawkins was undoubtedly aware of when he said this, at Mendel's monastery muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #139

It also worries me that it influences war stronger than anything we know... MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #55

I dont like the quote. While philosophers may not be satisfied with not understanding rhett o rick Jan 2014 #61

A lot of ad hominems toward Dawkins. immoderate Jan 2014 #63

I agree with you comments about the ad hominem attacks. Consider the sources. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #74

I really don't see the difference. immoderate Jan 2014 #89

I understand your point. It just seems to me that those comfortable with not understanding are ok rhett o rick Jan 2014 #274

That's a caricature Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #67

Exactly. I miss unrec for posts like that. 163 recs for broadbrushing stereotyping caricature. uppityperson Jan 2014 #268

fuck religion Chaco Dundee Jan 2014 #69

K&R (nt) Autumn Colors Jan 2014 #78

Religious people aren't satisfied with 'not understanding'. They simply understand... Shandris Jan 2014 #82

Dawkins is right. as usual. sagat Jan 2014 #88

I just want to say I find this post demeaning. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #102

and yet you joined in on the slamfest against Dawkins Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #114

He is arrogant and he insulted people like me. So yes he will get words from me. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #140

so you would agree then that it is perfectly acceptable for anyone here Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #144

Sure! Did you hear what he said against gay adoption the other day? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #145

my slamming him does in no way shape or form mean that critism of religion is not valid. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #143

what worries me about all human, religious and non religious, is their capacity to hate. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #103

absolutely! wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #104

Yep. Punishment for desiring knowledge is one of the first things that happens in the Bible. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #167

It's worth an hour or so of your time to listen to Dr. Dawkins. Judge him for yourself, dimbear Jan 2014 #107

K&R libtodeath Jan 2014 #121

This certainly belongs in General Discussion. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #122

Nothing threatens religions quite so much as... 99Forever Jan 2014 #124

And also requires people to relinquish their power and become sheeple... polichick Jan 2014 #132

I kind of view religion and patriotism as the same thing Victor_c3 Jan 2014 #147

What if we don't agree? Savannahmann Jan 2014 #148

Yes, many counter-examples exist Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #153

Aldrin is a living person, he is not dead. Speaking in the past tense is not appropirate. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #309

I'd feel better about religion... Rozlee Jan 2014 #151

They do have a choice of being something else as they get older Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #162

But, too many in your example are the exceptions to the rule. Rozlee Jan 2014 #191

I did say that the principles didn't have to be religious Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #242

I'm an atheist who views Dawkins as a blowhard and an asshat. Throd Jan 2014 #154

That graphic sums it up for the radicals around here. ffr Jan 2014 #155

See my sig line - GoneOffShore Jan 2014 #171

Kick if you agree with this assessment about the influence of religion on people. The CCC Jan 2014 #173

Stalin was a seminary student. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #178

Hitler was an altar boy. Rozlee Jan 2014 #198

Stalin was no true atheist. rug Jan 2014 #210

He may have been. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #213

He certainly wasn't motivated by being a seminary student. rug Jan 2014 #215

Likely he was motivated by lust for power. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #217

Agreed. rug Jan 2014 #218

I agree with the statement, but Stevepol Jan 2014 #180

The difference between belief and knowledge is important. Coyotl Jan 2014 #181

I disagree Gothmog Jan 2014 #182

Some of you remember Stephen Jay Gould. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #189

However, he himself differed from Dawkins in that he believed Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #244

As a life long atheist.. N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2014 #196

You just touched on an interesting comparison. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #212

Well said. As an atheist who has read the Bible in English and Latin and who has taken enough Texas Lawyer Jan 2014 #260

Although I appreciate the message reflection Jan 2014 #200

Nah polihood Jan 2014 #203

I don't check my brain at the door when I go to church, nor do I feel like my religion is against hrmjustin Jan 2014 #204

+1 Nika Jan 2014 #209

I suppose I agree-- but more precisely, my problem is that religion teaches people that Marr Jan 2014 #211

Yes, as an atheist, I definitely agree. n/t RebelOne Jan 2014 #222

kicked and recommended.... mike_c Jan 2014 #224

Here's a list of people whose thinking was crippled by their belief in a God: Jackpine Radical Jan 2014 #227

an amendment to the statement about Einstein Duppers Jan 2014 #302

I think Dawkins has it backwards thesquanderer Jan 2014 #230

I had this argument with hardcore atheist that LOOOOVE Dawkins. dead_head Jan 2014 #231

a hundred years ago they agreed MisterP Jan 2014 #238

The image is cool dead_head Jan 2014 #243

100 years ago (and until recently) the soi-disant "Enlightened" championed the Muslims against MisterP Jan 2014 #255

I kick... mcdeavitt Jan 2014 #234

The problem with this post and with what Richard Dawkins says is stereotyping. Omnith Jan 2014 #239

Religion is not going anywhere. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2014 #241

Religion destroys a working mind. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #245

As a Catholic atheist, I dont' get that quote (and I'm generally a Dawkins fan). Sure, it's true Texas Lawyer Jan 2014 #246

yep. cachukis Jan 2014 #261

I am more a fan of Hitchens than Dawkins, but the quote is essentially correct... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #265

I don't agree with that treestar Jan 2014 #267

yes, that is one of the ways it influences people wyldwolf Jan 2014 #275

I see the hate wars are continuing. Do people really have nothing better to do? liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #279

It was a hate OP. Painting the entirety of religious people as dumb. onehandle Jan 2014 #282

I love these religious debates. another_liberal Jan 2014 #280

Really? el_bryanto Jan 2014 #281

I don't think they know what they want at all. another_liberal Jan 2014 #283

K&R! Phlem Jan 2014 #284

just when ya think it could`t get any lower... madrchsod Jan 2014 #287

Pedophilia ain't so bad guy, says something. onehandle Jan 2014 #289

You're getting increasingly desperate in your trolling attempts. LAGC Jan 2014 #299

... SidDithers Jan 2014 #304

Are you finally addressing the Dolan issue and the huge scandal it represents? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #310

I don't know about that, just because someone finds religion Rex Jan 2014 #308

I wonder if this thread will be locked now that the other one was? el_bryanto Jan 2014 #312

I guess not - once again it's ok to attack religion at DU el_bryanto Jan 2014 #315

I emailed the host who locked my thread to ask that. Nine Jan 2014 #316

Kick...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #318

Why? Union Scribe Jan 2014 #319

Because I think this thread is a good counter... SidDithers Jan 2014 #320

Yes those pro-pope threads are kind of a "fuck you" to people who despise the pope el_bryanto Jan 2014 #321

Both or neither...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #322

No - definitely both el_bryanto Jan 2014 #324

It seems to me the solution to a polluted river Union Scribe Jan 2014 #323