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freshwest

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6. This guy was a defense minister. This stuff is all over the place. It's become a religion to some.
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 01:20 AM
Jan 2014

I see problems on both sides of the debate on the subject of alien visitors.

I don't see other than data, that there is much difference in the religious and scientific view that Earth is unique. It's a sort of Earth creation chavinism, even from evolutionists. Earth history gives a lot of facts to support this view, though. But what if as certain points it was tweaked by visitors just as we fool around with plants and animals?

That is repugnant to religious people, and equally so to believers in science. They will likely be the ones who laugh hardest at this man. They, like the climate change deniers, don't see it in their knowledge. So it's all trash.

The thought that we have been tinkered with genetically by an advanced civilization against our will is both hilarious and depressing.

I suspect there are civilizations out there among the stars that equal or surpass our own. This is what this guy in the video is saying. We've had SETI doing its work to find those ohers. This guy was high up in government. But see, he's supposed to be crazy, so you can't say that!

Just as the Earth was flat, and if you said otherwise you are a heretic. We have a way of making heretics out of anyone who doesn't ascribe to the dominant thought. But that doesn't prove anything, just what the majority think. Half the folks in this country believe Faux News, for example.

Total belief in alien visitations or UFOs has repeated an age old desire of humans not to grow up. They say that comeone will come and fix things up for us. Or they are messing us up so we can't fix it. I say, we must grow up and do it.

My opinion is, that NO ONE coming to save us from our stupidity. There is no benevolent race of beings that loves or fears us so much they stay up nights worrying. We did this, we are responsible for whatever is going to happen to us, and if we can't, then we feel we are doomed.

But never all of us. Earth history has evidence of population collapses in all kinds of animals and species in the past, some man-made and some not. Humans want security. It's hard to get.

We are lucky to be alive on this planet and don't even appreciate it, or each other very much. It's a good message to tell us to stop killing each other. Or so most of us think. Some think it's a necessary thing, and they aren't even stupid but employing a destrucitve strategy that is very wasteful.

Wonder anyone at DU lead their life differently if they believed what this man says?

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The aliens don't sound too bad. I'm sorry we're scaring them. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #1
Hell we are just getting STARTED! Wars are still in their infancy stage! Rex Jan 2014 #2
Wow A Little Weird Jan 2014 #3
A Beautiful Mind. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #4
What if he found some sunglasses like in They Live Union Scribe Jan 2014 #5
I love that movie... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #7
Yah, but then the movie would have been... Shandris Jan 2014 #11
And a major point would not have been made. TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #12
This guy was a defense minister. This stuff is all over the place. It's become a religion to some. freshwest Jan 2014 #6
Some pretty good science fiction has... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #9
Perhaps not tangible, but logical. I also don't believe in the big bang, which sounds like a form of freshwest Jan 2014 #17
there may be tangible Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #34
Paul Hellyer is a fucking idiot...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #8
Maybe, but the planet might be a far more boring place... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #10
Oh, this ISN'T South Park? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #13
I wish aliens existed! And visited! But so far none have! nt Logical Jan 2014 #14
That we know of... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #15
I 100% agree. I had high hopes for SETI but nothing so far, but radio waves.... Logical Jan 2014 #16
How do you explain the cave paintings, rock paintings/drawings and carved figurines resembling Ghost in the Machine Jan 2014 #18
Your argument reminded me of a great photo I saw once... Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #19
Yes, I've seen and read about different pyramid shaped structures in different parts of the world... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2014 #25
yeah RobertEarl Jan 2014 #21
"Therefore, anyone telling us aliens don't exist is probably an alien!!" LOL!!!! Ghost in the Machine Jan 2014 #26
I think there is other life on other planets, they just have not.... Logical Jan 2014 #24
"Please explain where I said there is no other life forms!".... ummmmm.... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2014 #28
Currently, as far as we know, none exist! But I assume they do. Nt Logical Jan 2014 #31
Thank you, Logical, I can live with that explanation... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2014 #32
I am a lot more skeptical, good or bad....... Logical Jan 2014 #35
1963 - 1968. Hmmm.... He's pretty old now.... nt Electric Monk Jan 2014 #20
"two of them are working with the U.S. government" Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2014 #22
he should get a job as an analyst/commentator for the History Channel Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #23
I bet the men he used to reside over had a hearty laugh about this. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #27
If you're capable of single-generation interstellar travel, I doubt atomic weapons bother you Scootaloo Jan 2014 #29
He must have been visited by the Pakleds. edbermac Jan 2014 #30
This proves one thing, Canada does not need a defense minister. Coyotl Jan 2014 #33
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