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In reply to the discussion: Canada's ex-defense minister: Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)I see problems on both sides of the debate on the subject of alien visitors.
I don't see other than data, that there is much difference in the religious and scientific view that Earth is unique. It's a sort of Earth creation chavinism, even from evolutionists. Earth history gives a lot of facts to support this view, though. But what if as certain points it was tweaked by visitors just as we fool around with plants and animals?
That is repugnant to religious people, and equally so to believers in science. They will likely be the ones who laugh hardest at this man. They, like the climate change deniers, don't see it in their knowledge. So it's all trash.
The thought that we have been tinkered with genetically by an advanced civilization against our will is both hilarious and depressing.
I suspect there are civilizations out there among the stars that equal or surpass our own. This is what this guy in the video is saying. We've had SETI doing its work to find those ohers. This guy was high up in government. But see, he's supposed to be crazy, so you can't say that!
Just as the Earth was flat, and if you said otherwise you are a heretic. We have a way of making heretics out of anyone who doesn't ascribe to the dominant thought. But that doesn't prove anything, just what the majority think. Half the folks in this country believe Faux News, for example.
Total belief in alien visitations or UFOs has repeated an age old desire of humans not to grow up. They say that comeone will come and fix things up for us. Or they are messing us up so we can't fix it. I say, we must grow up and do it.
My opinion is, that NO ONE coming to save us from our stupidity. There is no benevolent race of beings that loves or fears us so much they stay up nights worrying. We did this, we are responsible for whatever is going to happen to us, and if we can't, then we feel we are doomed.
But never all of us. Earth history has evidence of population collapses in all kinds of animals and species in the past, some man-made and some not. Humans want security. It's hard to get.
We are lucky to be alive on this planet and don't even appreciate it, or each other very much. It's a good message to tell us to stop killing each other. Or so most of us think. Some think it's a necessary thing, and they aren't even stupid but employing a destrucitve strategy that is very wasteful.
Wonder anyone at DU lead their life differently if they believed what this man says?