The problem is that white people see racism as conscious hate

[Shandris]

130. I meant most people are willing to admit there is a problem with racism.

But you will never get -everyone- admit there is a problem with racism, and you noted that 'it' (which I interpreted as racism) will continue to be a problem until people admit there is a problem. I don't think most -thinking- people deny there is still some racial problems, and I (and apparently you likewise) agree that there will never be a time when -everyone- admits it is a problem, so we are nearing that point where 'most' people agree on it. We have a whole new generation to try to teach, and it's not exactly going swimmingly, but we know for the most part where our work lies.

Being 'treated fairly' is social equity, not social equality. I made that distinction in my post. It does not matter how 'evenly' people are treated as a group. It matters that each group has the same opportunities. The rest comes down to the individual, and no matter how unpopular it remains (for some unknown reason that still mystifies me) to point that out, I will continue to do so. Group policy -only- works in the context of the individual. If the policy seeks to rectify problems strictly from a group basis, then it will drastically harm any and all outliers and most persons who don't fall in the 'average' range ('harm' being defined, for this purpose, as either over-privilege or under-privilege in terms of social equity).

Now people can argue over what place 'white privilege' has in this. I think focusing on any privilege or set of privileges as a standalone or small package instead of a broad spectrum of social indicators is a flawed approach. If you want to try to mend social inequities by levelling out privilege, you have to do it with all of ones that are sufficiently big enough to alter any given individual's life or you're going to be directly harming people.