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171. describing the effects of racism against nonwhites

Fri Jan 10, 2014, 04:00 AM

Jan 2014

is one thing, and NOT insulting.

Calling whites privileged is another thing, and IS insulting.

It's pretty simple, if you want more white allies in a struggle against racism, then it is not a good idea to insult them.

The harm of an insult though is just in the insult, not in any actual impact on the life of the person insulted. And it is not like most people will try to explain to you why they are insulted and why you shouldn't insult them. They will just shrug and say "same to you, buddy" and walk away.

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How has use of the term "white privilege" harmed you? [View all] CreekDog Jan 2014 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #1

. CreekDog Jan 2014 #2

just like fight club, the first benefit of white privilege is being able to pretend geek tragedy Jan 2014 #3

Right. It's only if you're white that you can ignore white privilege. athena Jan 2014 #96

It has harmed me immensely by offending my fragile sensibilities! athena Jan 2014 #4

OH the burden VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #11

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To say nothing of the volunteer victims, waiting to pounce and pile on. RC Jan 2014 #49

Especially when the people in question belong to the ruling group! athena Jan 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #116

Bill Murray as Hunter S. Thompson... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #296

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all I hear is Carl Spackler Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #319

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I'm pretty sure I read in an interview enigmatic Jan 2014 #323

I work at a minimum wage job. Everyone in my workplace is over 40. El_Johns Jan 2014 #174

sounds like your underpaid staff is overrepresented by minorities CreekDog Jan 2014 #202

You seem to think I require your "education". I don't. I'm perfectly aware that "minorities" are El_Johns Jan 2014 #255

I don't require anything of you except that you get things right CreekDog Jan 2014 #257

Good Lord! Who went and made you school marm? Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #298

No one is saying that white people's rights should be curtailed. athena Jan 2014 #225

This^^^^^ giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #300

I can't help but notice cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #5

It's not the term upaloopa Jan 2014 #6

you got me there. i really don't see how use of the term "white privilege" causes harm CreekDog Jan 2014 #8

Try to understand what I posted ok? upaloopa Jan 2014 #21

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #141

Bogus???? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #14

That is nowhere near what I said upaloopa Jan 2014 #25

Tell me then, PoliticalPothead Jan 2014 #254

Bush's Prvileged Life Is Massively Exacerbated By Factors Other Than His Race ProfessorGAC Jan 2014 #53

I "know" that...I was making an analogy..... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #56

OK ProfessorGAC Jan 2014 #67

Not at all...trying to make the poster understand that they know what privilege means... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #70

and a stupid black kid who did drugs and can't speak english well but has wealthy family JI7 Jan 2014 #61

If It Were A Really Rich Black Kid . . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2014 #71

then you just described the privilege...thanks! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #80

Just To Be Clear ProfessorGAC Jan 2014 #198

okay.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #208

Is George Bush the representative white male? El_Johns Jan 2014 #173

but that wasn't the point was it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #214

CreekDog, CreekDog, CreekDog.... mike_c Jan 2014 #7

Oh, why not. Nothing better to do at the moment. Shandris Jan 2014 #9

So you are saying I should never take GWB's privileged status into discussion VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #17

No, I'm not saying that at all. Shandris Jan 2014 #22

Yes actually you are... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #26

'Denial is not a river in Egypt'. Shandris Jan 2014 #30

I talk whenever I want....and say what I want... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #60

Yes, I'm certain you do. Self-awareness doesn't seem high on your list of good traits. Shandris Jan 2014 #65

I am self aware enough to know that I am White and I am lucky because of it VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #81

How odd. Shandris Jan 2014 #87

What are these privileges you describe from being a woman? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #89

I'm not derailing the thread any further than necessary. Shandris Jan 2014 #90

this is not a derail... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #92

Usually welfare safety nets provide better for women... shaayecanaan Jan 2014 #124

No hahahahahah not in the United States my friend..... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #125

Devastating response... shaayecanaan Jan 2014 #140

please proceed then... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #212

What do you do for a living, and what did your parents do? El_Johns Jan 2014 #177

My parents were military...my father was a born a Sharecropper.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #215

This was probably not a very good response. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #122

who is this "our" you are speaking for? exactly VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #126

Women. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #151

I'm not one? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #161

You might have missed my point. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #164

why so mysterious? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #165

Sad, actually. El_Johns Jan 2014 #178

I have no idea what point you are trying to make... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #217

Ironic. El_Johns Jan 2014 #175

Is that you Alanis? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #218

harmful as a broadbrush stroke...just like most stereotypes = Indeed. El_Johns Jan 2014 #176

Oh nothing EVER comes of that... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #220

Only that the use of it reveals the douchebags among us who are deliberately obtuse about it. Starry Messenger Jan 2014 #10

So lets forget the White part.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #28

Of course they do. Shandris Jan 2014 #33

Okay then you should understand the concept..... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #35

Where are you seeing me saying I don't understand the -concept-? Shandris Jan 2014 #40

You seem to deny its existence.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #43

... Shandris Jan 2014 #48

"small packages" ???? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #52

PLEASE tell me you're trolling. Shandris Jan 2014 #63

Please tell me YOU are.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #66

I see. So it was too 'obtuse' for you. Shandris Jan 2014 #69

see its only numerically small to YOU! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #68

You don't know what 'numerically' means, do you? Shandris Jan 2014 #72

the meaning of numerically is not at issue is it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #74

No. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #59

hahahahahahahahahahahaha VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #62

Your answer is no, and it's up to you to prove the positive. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #73

I don't have to answer...I can laugh like hell at the mere notion! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #77

This OP was supposed to be about white privilege. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #86

You think White males don't have privilege? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #130

I think whites have privilege. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #133

Not the same they don't... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #135

Odds are that you'll have the last word, having lived 5 years longer than me. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #137

that's not privilege.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #139

No, we pretty much know exactly what causes it. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #142

White Male privilege - if you want to call life expectancy a privilege.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #143

WTF? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #144

NO I am saying IF you want to believe (I don't ) that life expectancy... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #145

How long can a 65 year old person expect to live? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #149

this was YOUR definition of privilege my friend not mine.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #150

So what is your definition? Major Nikon Jan 2014 #197

Oh come on...I was only using the "constraint's" HE selected.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #209

It's "petard". lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #247

okay...sorry...petard....doesn't change the fact that I am right. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #248

and to answer my own question... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #249

Their poor oppressed husbands. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #250

all 4.5% of them? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #251

Mitt Romney....the Mormon...is oppressed by his wife? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #252

You mean after you conflated race and gender privileges? Major Nikon Jan 2014 #266

"Why living longer is not a privilege" yewberry Jan 2014 #324

Fits your own definition Major Nikon Jan 2014 #325

at least you'll get to ask the great Goddess in the sky "why?" CreekDog Jan 2014 #200

This female says bullhockey to everything you've posted. El_Johns Jan 2014 #179

Good for you...If YOU think there is no White privilege VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #210

female privilege? WTF CreekDog Jan 2014 #166

Are you a racial minority? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #207

non-existent male privilege? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #221

"Or do only White people get to decide how disadvantaged Black people are in your world?" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #230

Are White people in the position to decide IF Black people are disadvantaged? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #231

Does someone "decide" these things? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #234

Simple answer...yes... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #235

"Simple"; I think you made a typo. I think you meant "simpleton". n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #237

look at the pretty picture Jeff... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #238

is this your attempt to insult me? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #239

*click* Four minutes. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #240

Did you finish looking at the picture? Did you need more than 4 minutes to determine VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #242

Here's a picture for you Jeff...since you don't believe in "White Male Privilege" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #232

that's what I say Creek! Agree.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #211

Unfortunately, there are a few like that.....not so much on here, but more of Tumblr..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #157

About as much as being white has helped me. nt ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #12

I am a White female and I KNOW it has helped me... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #19

I live in an area that is over 98% white. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #27

It certainly hasn't hurt you either has it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #29

That 2% is mostly doctors in my county. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #37

key word "mostly" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #44

How about the fact the s/he lives in that neighborhood in the first place. No white privelege there. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #82

I know right....I am sure GWB thinks there is no racism in his White neighborhood too! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #84

There used to be an area just outside Atlanta that was basically 100% white. I guarantee you Hoyt Jan 2014 #55

race is not an issue in 98% white neighborhoods *by design*. being surrounded by white folks is bettyellen Jan 2014 #117

You know it helped you that is what I am saying upaloopa Jan 2014 #31

because until it doesn't exist it needs to be lectured on....over and over... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #39

Privilege will always exist. upaloopa Jan 2014 #47

Then why are there people right here on this thread in DU that deny its existence... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #91

I think you misunderstand what they are saying upaloopa Jan 2014 #118

NO i didn't misunderstand...they denied it exists...to my face. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #127

But "guilt" is a strawman to begin with. Not one person on here has said white people should feel nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #297

thank you for proving my point geek tragedy Jan 2014 #23

I don't think I proved your point at all. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #34

for YOU......if you weren't White in your area...it would most certainly be an "issue" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #41

I refuse to allow people to say I'm privileged when I'm poor as dirt because of my zip code. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #50

You can refuse to believe it...doesn't mean it isn't true... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #64

The only reason you're able to "set aside" those things is because you're white. Just saying. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #299

i would wager that non-white people living in such areas might disagree with you nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #58

Did you grow up in a family with two parents? athena Jan 2014 #98

No. I didn't. El_Johns Jan 2014 #180

Agreed. And I haven't been helped much, either. AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #110

says you... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #223

No, but I know that I, as a solitary individual, haven't really benefitted, not directly, anyway.... AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #283

but we are not talking about YOU as a solitary individual.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #284

"Then you benefited because everyone else HAS!" I hate to say this, but..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #290

NO there is not....you made it quite clear in the other thread... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #291

May I see some proof, please? AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #292

I am a woman.....do you think I have NEVER experienced sexism in my life? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #293

Re: "I am a woman.....do you think I have NEVER experienced sexism in my life?" AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #295

That wouldn't even make sense if it made sense. morningfog Jan 2014 #156

I didn't appreciate my Whiteness till I moved to NYC. sir pball Jan 2014 #222

Sometimes you have to see it with your own eyes before it sinks in. Nothing wrong with that nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #301

I'll freely admit it's wrong, but I'll still take advantage of it. sir pball Jan 2014 #317

You cursed, horrid person. sir pball Jan 2014 #322

Shit! I'm sorry that happened to you! nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #332

It's OK, it's about as not-big as a deal can be.. sir pball Jan 2014 #338

All whites are guilty of exploiting this privilege SaltyBro Jan 2014 #13

You can't be guilty of something you are not aware of. upaloopa Jan 2014 #36

Ignorance is no exception to the law is it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #46

You can't be convicted of a crime without upaloopa Jan 2014 #51

OH yes you can....you better ask a lawyer friend about that... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #78

Oh really? Simple google search turned up... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #95

If Whites don't know they are privileged SaltyBro Jan 2014 #101

I don't think "guilt" is the right concept. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #79

the "easier go of it" you describe IS White Male privilege! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #85

Perhaps the question is what, specifically, can the individual white male do about it? Orrex Jan 2014 #114

You have to do more than that.....lots more... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #128

Not complaining. Orrex Jan 2014 #152

start loathing yourself.. or something... dionysus Jan 2014 #154

that would be a nice start yeah.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #160

serious question. anyone with half a brain knows white priviledge and male priviledge exist. so, dionysus Jan 2014 #245

We are doing it now....have you not noticed how big this thread is? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #246

Exactly. They never have any answer to that question. Because the whole point of the modern El_Johns Jan 2014 #182

So your workplace anecdotal evidence is all that anyone needs VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #224

No, my "workplace anecdotal evidence" is the reason your tactics are losers. El_Johns Jan 2014 #259

Uh no they aren't anecdotal evidence is not clear cut evidence/ VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #261

You have a gift for missing the point. El_Johns Jan 2014 #263

So what? Look at the row for JUST whites.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #264

I'm supposed to look at the row for just whites and ignore the row for Asians ("minorities")? El_Johns Jan 2014 #265

Some people just cannot seem to see past the nose on their own faces... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #262

You didn't answer my question. El_Johns Jan 2014 #272

answered...what part of those over 40 "other than While male" have less chance than you do... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #274

No, you didn't answer my question, which has to do with why the same evidence (income) is El_Johns Jan 2014 #275

because that is JUST salary...not EVERYTHING! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #276

Then why are you using it as evidence for white privilege? If it's not good evidence, better not El_Johns Jan 2014 #278

Jeebus...LOOK at it! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #279

and I didn't say it wasn't good evidence...I said it was ONE not the ONLY evidence. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #281

Wow. Thank you. Seriously, thank you Number23 Jan 2014 #16

Not at all. HappyMe Jan 2014 #18

well being a woman does....but not not being White. VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #20

I would say being a white woman HappyMe Jan 2014 #342

Yes I agree...exactly... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #343

Good grief! HappyMe Jan 2014 #344

The existence of the term means I am subjected to this thread 1000words Jan 2014 #24

Nice. redqueen Jan 2014 #32

it hurts when I am stillcool Jan 2014 #38

It's better to serve our time pointing out the causes of white privilege Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #42

if you don't say or describe the term, then you'd be left to describing causes CreekDog Jan 2014 #54

We've all heard what the term means 84373705394 times. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #107

You've left out a very important example... countryjake Jan 2014 #45

It turned me into a newt. Iggo Jan 2014 #57

I got better. zappaman Jan 2014 #190

I doubt anybody has been hurt by it in that sense el_bryanto Jan 2014 #75

Changing one's beliefs is rarely painless. athena Jan 2014 #88

Being lectured to about privilege by privileged little snots raises my blood pressure. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #83

then why do we have folks right on this thread even here on DU that denies it exists? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #93

. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #105

Case in point. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #146

+1. Snots that can't even spell the word. El_Johns Jan 2014 #184

+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #183

The term "white priviledge" has not harmed me at all tkmorris Jan 2014 #94

"It implies that one group is getting something extra" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #99

*sigh* YES males make more than females tkmorris Jan 2014 #106

THAT's White male privilege.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #129

Brilliant post. Glassunion Jan 2014 #115

but to deny that it is STILL in existence DOESN'T change it....does it? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #131

Obviously, it has not etherealtruth Jan 2014 #97

I'm a tall handsome white fellow. I've never had much money... hunter Jan 2014 #100

About as much as somsone holding open a door for me or others The Straight Story Jan 2014 #102

... redqueen Jan 2014 #113

Still on the "opening doors" thing, eh? That joke was old hat a year ago... nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #302

The term is a minor annoyance CFLDem Jan 2014 #103

The "Race Game" Canard HangOnKids Jan 2014 #169

It is to the ruling class. CFLDem Jan 2014 #195

Of course HangOnKids Jan 2014 #312

No. I have benefitted from several other privileges as well. Throd Jan 2014 #104

I think the point is to recognize that some people don't enjoy the same privileges athena Jan 2014 #108

thank you! Brilliant response! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #132

I have girls to feed, bills to pay, car needs a front-end alignment... Throd Jan 2014 #155

So you're saying that before people will donate or volunteer to do anything for "minorities" El_Johns Jan 2014 #185

And you're saying that a white person who doesn't accept the idea that athena Jan 2014 #219

If only Patrick Stewart had that full-head-of-hair privilege, Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #121

It hasn't "harmed" me, as an individual, no.....but liberals as a whole, I'm afraid, haven't been... AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #109

So how do you feel about the term "male privilege"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #134

Well, one night my white privilege came home a little drunk Vinnie From Indy Jan 2014 #111

That happened to me once. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #119

In an of itself, not harmful. However when it is accompanied with an implication Glassunion Jan 2014 #112

you know, of course, that it hasn't hfojvt Jan 2014 #120

Wrong, because describing the effects of racism against nonwhites is not insulting CreekDog Jan 2014 #123

describing the effects of racism against nonwhites hfojvt Jan 2014 #171

you're saying that you won't fight racism if the term is used CreekDog Jan 2014 #172

and you are saying as well hfojvt Jan 2014 #181

says you, the guy whose hero is Stonewall Jackson CreekDog Jan 2014 #233

So exactly how are you an "ally" if you deny the existence of systemic racism? nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #304

you may think the two are the same hfojvt Jan 2014 #330

Middle-class black people can still be followed around in stores, profiled by law enforcement, nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #337

tell you what hfojvt Jan 2014 #339

I didn't say that. Didn't I expressly say that a lot of white people's lives just plain suck? nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #340

but that's what I am getting at hfojvt Jan 2014 #341

I think he's more saying that people are more receptive if you don't start the conversation El_Johns Jan 2014 #186

Yeah, I suppose us white guys are used to having our personal feelings catered to. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #303

actually most people are NOT used to it hfojvt Jan 2014 #327

How does the fact that a lot of white people's lives suck, do anything to negate the existence nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #335

I think class comes into play here, though. delta17 Jan 2014 #329

Sorry, I'm not really into avoiding discussion of important issues just to spare people's feelings. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #336

DU discussions about it cost me a trip to the hardware store, two tylenol, and an ice pack. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #136

And the next upper-class white person who lectures me about white privilege can come & El_Johns Jan 2014 #187

Well that's a stupid assumption to make. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #191

What do you do for a living, what does your spouse or partner do, and what did your parents El_Johns Jan 2014 #192

Would you also like my social security number, blood type, mother's maiden name and home address? LeftyMom Jan 2014 #193

No. El_Johns Jan 2014 #194

What? Are you saying you have all those things?! CreekDog Jan 2014 #206

I can't believe Elton John spoke to you like that CreekDog Jan 2014 #205

anecdotal, but your numbers show white privilege: CreekDog Jan 2014 #204

So what do you think your chances are of improving your lot in life versus's the other 40% are? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #244

Fairly small, since I'm over 40, as are all my coworkers. El_Johns Jan 2014 #253

So what are your chances over 40 vs a Black man over 40? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #256

As a white woman, my expected lifespan is actually higher. Though possibly I won't achieve El_Johns Jan 2014 #268

Thank you for highlighting the hypocrisy of some here Chathamization Jan 2014 #311

nice fishwax Jan 2014 #138

We should discuss the types of harm? chervilant Jan 2014 #147

I hsve never been told by an asian, black, hispanic or native amarican Harmony Blue Jan 2014 #148

so it's elitist to say that racism negatively affects nonwhite lives CreekDog Jan 2014 #158

No, but overuse of straw men seems to be a common tactic of elitists. El_Johns Jan 2014 #188

define elitist CreekDog Jan 2014 #227

Define: Elitist Glassunion Jan 2014 #258

yeah, and Phil Robertson never heard black people complain either JI7 Jan 2014 #163

I imagine acknowledging a higher degree of privilege is shameful to many people.. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #199

When I applied for a beer driver job in Idaho in the mid 80's and got it, I can brewens Jan 2014 #153

Why is one group allowed to try and impose a list of banned words and not another? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #159

tell us about all this hurt you feel CreekDog Jan 2014 #168

I assure you it doesn't, I just want to get in on the poutrage Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #170

Its harm to me is the inverse of the benefit you get from using it. Do you like apples? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #162

Well here's an interesting topic I can comment on... TheOldDancingBear Jan 2014 #167

+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #189

you didn't answer why you accused another poster of being wealthy or upper middle class? CreekDog Jan 2014 #226

DU disappointing me...again... McDiggy Jan 2014 #196

Well done! Vinnie From Indy Jan 2014 #201

Wow. redqueen Jan 2014 #213

Exactly. People understandably focus on their own struggles, but being ignorant of the bigger nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #305

.... McDiggy Jan 2014 #320

Except for this "little" factoid... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #243

I'm not disagreeing. McDiggy Jan 2014 #316

No WE ARE disagreeing...if you are White..YOU have privilege..it has nothing to do with money... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #318

Good post! Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #267

+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #271

Great response. +100. What I see, in the OP and elswehere Skip Intro Jan 2014 #277

you criticize me on race and defend Ron Paul on race CreekDog Jan 2014 #280

awww, you mad, bro? Skip Intro Jan 2014 #282

Actually, I'm happy. Your posts remind me that most people on DU aren't like you. CreekDog Jan 2014 #285

Good for you! Skip Intro Jan 2014 #286

I didn't say, and I don't think "whites are evil". Drop the victim act. Grow up. CreekDog Jan 2014 #288

oh and this is for you, a response to the xenophobia you exhibit CreekDog Jan 2014 #289

3- being female, I already get paid less WhiteTara Jan 2014 #203

Succinct and 100% accurate. redqueen Jan 2014 #216

Don't worry. CFLDem Jan 2014 #228

Top 10 El_Johns Jan 2014 #273

Okay. I see WhiteTara Jan 2014 #287

A list of 10 individuals doesn't make a point about *anything*. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #306

It makes a point about "the top," which is what the poster referenced. El_Johns Jan 2014 #314

Yet the people at the very top of the income pyramid are overwhelmingly white. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #331

the use of the term on DU has caused me extreme irritation, which lead to stress/high BP La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #229

I applaud your efforts with this thread, Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #236

It removed my "white man's burden" and pointed out that The Second Stone Jan 2014 #241

It's made me realize I was born on third base rather than hitting a triple. That's a bummer Recursion Jan 2014 #260

I wouldn't go that far. For most individual white people it's probably more like being born on first nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #307

Or even just born with a 3 and 0 count Recursion Jan 2014 #308

Very true. Though I guess I never had that "luxury," partly due to having so many nonwhite friends nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #310

I think it is possible that the term feeds misunderstanding of what it is trying to convey TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #269

Maybe not #4, but 1-3 are no doubt true. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #270

The problem with downplaying collective racism is that the next step is to blame nonwhite people nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #309

The problem with flipping discrimination around into white privilege Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #326

Telling people what to think is mostly pointless, true. But I'll still express my opinion nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #334

Basically this.... YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #294

Made people stupider... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #313

No, No, No, & No Jamastiene Jan 2014 #328

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #333