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belltower

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24. many struggle with this one

Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:58 AM

Jan 2014

including me, because it is -- so symbolic -- of a rotting Western culture. The A&F thing (well, holding aside solipsistic anorexia) is different: it reeks of rank exclusivity, and is not comparable. If I were a juror I'm sure I would have voted to remove/ban all such comments, which would surprise my wife who consistently would shoot nasty looks whenever I made any comment about anyone's weight, just as I used to whenever a negative comment was made about tobacco users. Glass houses and all, so I've finally stopped giving a damn about others' weight. It took me 40 years to get to this point though, and I'm glad I've gotten here.

Bottom line one's a sociopath to ridicule innocents however in Christie's case, here's a guy who is the epitome of a "fat cat" whom I tend to loath for obvious reasons.

I do urge DU to reconsider, and vote to equate fat stereotyping with religious/other stereotyping behavior. It's way sophomoric and we should all strive to be better than that -- our "moral ecology" should be to not oppress others when they are doing NOTHING to oppress us.

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The Ugly Hypocrisy of DU. [View all] madaboutharry Jan 2014 OP

Any person who has to resort to physical appearance insults to make their point is shallow indeed. lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #1

Would it be acceptable to insult and joke about a person's physical appearance madaboutharry Jan 2014 #4

All good points lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author phasma ex machina Jan 2014 #53

You've got a LOOOOOOOONG list of DU'ers you better put on that list LOL snooper2 Jan 2014 #32

I am giving an opinion not making a list. A person who resorts to physical insults against someone lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #43

well, he does kind of look like gary busey being possessed by Satan...nt dionysus Jan 2014 #74

+1 nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #85

I agree with your point, but it's something we all learn in childhood. QuestForSense Jan 2014 #52

No, no, no, they are not psychopaths. cheyanne Jan 2014 #62

Here we disagree, I think. QuestForSense Jan 2014 #69

Said it before and will say it again The Straight Story Jan 2014 #2

^^ This ^^ OmahaBlueDog Jan 2014 #63

+1000 DeSwiss Jan 2014 #93

The same people who make fat jokes kcr Jan 2014 #3

I agree with you, but there is hyprocrisy everywhere and on both "sides". crappyjazz Jan 2014 #5

Very well said. nt mimi85 Jan 2014 #103

hello lapfog_1 Jan 2014 #6

Fair enough... pipi_k Jan 2014 #38

i too understood the Hindenburg reference to be "going down in flames or failure" not a reference to okaawhatever Jan 2014 #50

No hypocrisy involved oberliner Jan 2014 #7

But the same moderation process for all users. Orsino Jan 2014 #23

The "moderation" process (jury) is ANYTHING but consistent. trotsky Jan 2014 #30

Perhaps it should be called inconsistency instead. Orsino Jan 2014 #35

a DU jury is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get... dionysus Jan 2014 #75

You never know who you'll get on the jury oberliner Jan 2014 #31

I thought we were an autonomous collective hfojvt Jan 2014 #66

An anarcho-syndicalist commune oberliner Jan 2014 #67

I'm pretty sure... sendero Jan 2014 #9

Great OP madaboutharry. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #10

Wow--terrific post! Orrex Jan 2014 #11

I have served on juries that went 6-0 to hide a Christie joke BainsBane Jan 2014 #12

As are epithets against gun-owning white men in need of enhancers. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #22

no, that's accepable on DU...they are all small dicked, dangerous crazy people, i read it here! dionysus Jan 2014 #76

Yes, the ex-spurts have spoken. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #90

In terms of the Hindenburg joke, tell me, how thin would Christie have to be for folks to be allowed Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #39

just an observation... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #13

A fascist gas bag exploding in New Jersey...... Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #14

This would actually make a damned good Onion story. n/t Orsino Jan 2014 #36

Fat people Democrats BobUp Jan 2014 #15

Some aren't fat jokes; some are fat Christie jokes. It's a subtle distinction but operative. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #16

I appreciate the comment, but if you have to explain such nuances, they aren't being understood. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #26

We're not Republicans; We do nuance. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #27

Again I agree, but I think this one misses the mark. nt. Adrahil Jan 2014 #28

This isn't about DU specifically. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #17

Best response to this thread :) +1000 weathermanx2005 Jan 2014 #54

My hypocrisy too! Well said. mountain grammy Jan 2014 #58

and, as a fat woman on du hopemountain Jan 2014 #96

I will only say this in response Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #104

This fat old white guy agrees. 99Forever Jan 2014 #108

can we joke about his complexion? FatBuddy Jan 2014 #18

Here's a jury that got it right... City Lights Jan 2014 #19

So if everyone on that jury was over wieght it would have been 6-0 ??? L0oniX Jan 2014 #49

Why people pipi_k Jan 2014 #20

Well said pipi. Shandris Jan 2014 #81

We really should learn to leave the ad hominems to the other parties. Orsino Jan 2014 #21

many struggle with this one belltower Jan 2014 #24

As someone who has altenately been thin and heavy and thin and heavy... wyldwolf Jan 2014 #25

Look, I'm Italian-Irish, overweight, gray-haired, myopic, Catholic. Make all the jokes you want! WinkyDink Jan 2014 #29

Thank you for this. JNelson6563 Jan 2014 #33

It is an uggly fact of human nature to demonize and dehumanize the other side in a conflict. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #34

I missed the fat joke in your alert Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #37

I laugh at funny jokes and don't laugh at unfunny jokes. tridim Jan 2014 #40

*Thumbs-Up Emoticon* WinkyDink Jan 2014 #41

The only two groups of people it is acceptable to make fun of NM_Birder Jan 2014 #42

...and ninja midgets. L0oniX Jan 2014 #46

Like these posted in national media? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #44

This kind of thing is really pissing off the ninja midgets too. L0oniX Jan 2014 #45

No one is making fun of obese people. They're making fun of obese Christie. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #47

When you say that fat people, or women (Sarah Palin), kiva Jan 2014 #72

Nobody makes fun of Sarah Palin because she's a woman. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #73

You weren't here in 2008. kiva Jan 2014 #82

Yeah, I was talking about Christie. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #84

So in essence, you are making fun of Palin's mental handicap RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #98

I agree 100% - Christie isn't loathed because he's overweight, he's loathed because... George II Jan 2014 #48

ANIMALS...Stupid...Idiot....Hack..."the little Serb" otohara Jan 2014 #51

I am inclined to think he uses his large girth to be threating. olegramps Jan 2014 #56

Skinny Can Be Threatening Too otohara Jan 2014 #61

amen DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #55

I'm with you, madaboutharry. I hate that it even needs to be explained to people. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #57

My fauxrage is being expended elsewhere. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #59

And, Christie may have been a victim of bullying as a child, if he was particularly overweight. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #60

Christie was of average weight well into adulthood. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #78

We are a species of contradictions. The_Commonist Jan 2014 #64

Republicans would end social security, end public healthcare, end public schools lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #65

You know, I rec'd the OP but I still have to agree with you here. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #86

Today's National Media: Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #68

You forgot the other allowable target of stereotypes on DU - rich people. badtoworse Jan 2014 #70

add religious people and gun owners. dionysus Jan 2014 #80

prior to joining DU, I thought progressives were tolerant DrDan Jan 2014 #71

And I thought they liked cats Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #77

Something like 98% of DUers were against mocking people's weight CJCRANE Jan 2014 #79

Exactly. And whenever something bad happens to the GOP, someone will show up here saying, "tsk, tsk FSogol Jan 2014 #105

There's a key problem with your logic kiawah Jan 2014 #83

Being overweight isn't always a lifestyle choice either. Some people have metabolic or other health nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #87

Do you choose your weight? DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #88

There have always been groups that get constant ridicule, jokes, and outright hatred. Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #89

What rude people. Someone said a lot of people hate lawyers UNTIL THEY NEED ONE. nt raccoon Jan 2014 #106

There really is no need Flatpicker Jan 2014 #91

It's one thing to have a personality disorder, BobUp Jan 2014 #101

IOKITAR NuclearDem Jan 2014 #92

I agree 100%. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #94

So it's not just me..... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #95

I am of Italian-American descent, and fat. RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #97

I agree but please tell me we are not Live and Learn Jan 2014 #99

DUers are still human AZ Progressive Jan 2014 #100

Human doesn't mean they can't learn. Live and Learn Jan 2014 #102

About that last paragraph and the celebration of anti gay clerics on DU Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #107