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79. I wouldn't say Nazi

Fri Jan 10, 2014, 09:08 PM

Jan 2014

More like Nanny state. It's all fine and dandy to regulate that you must not smoke in certain areas, I agree with that. What I would not support is telling people what to do in their own homes (unless they rent and aren't allowed to smoke per their lease agreement or whatever), or outside secluded from everyone else. It's a slippery slope and if you're not very careful, something you like to do could be attacked also.

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LA Times: Non-smokers "have the right not to be sickened by the choices of others" [View all] alp227 Jan 2014 OP

One smoker has the capability to invade the personal space of 100 non-smokers in a closed space. onehandle Jan 2014 #1

I don't know your answer, but I suspect it's "ban smoking." Am I right? Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #3

the same way you enforce all laws (excpt for illegal immigration) leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #7

How many million smokers do you want to lock up? Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #70

Keep your words out of my mouth. onehandle Jan 2014 #13

Don't try to tell me what to do. You said "you know my answer." I don't. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #68

I sometimes remind people that smoking tobacco is *not* an illegal activity. Arkansas Granny Jan 2014 #2

b/c smoke only stays in the smoking area leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #4

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #8

it looks out dated leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #11

I can't believe I went Godwin! Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #14

i dont know what that is, is it Dachau leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #16

yea i said that and stand by that. i am sorry if that offends but smoking needs to go and leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #41

Given the choice between sharing the world with smokers or those who'd put humans in pens Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #52

Me too. n/t beaglelover Jan 2014 #63

only untill the cancer from the smokers killed u leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #67

Give it a rest OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #78

Yes! OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #77

I've seen fully enclosed smoking areas at airports, smoking pens. They exist already.nt uppityperson Jan 2014 #98

Incentive implies carrot. enlightenment Jan 2014 #59

incentive, because it would lead to healthier people which is a good thing leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #73

I'm glad you do. enlightenment Jan 2014 #76

is that a crematorium? Really? roguevalley Jan 2014 #21

i think so, he's calling me a nazi leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #23

then he loses, honey. I think the last place nazi talk belongs is here. Mazel tov, honey for your roguevalley Jan 2014 #25

of course he did, i believe he knows smoking needs to go but habits r easier to defend than break leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #28

I wouldn't say Nazi OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #79

Well, banning smoking is exactly the same as the ruthless murder of millions, so there you go. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #26

Better yet, forget the filters SoCalNative Jan 2014 #18

Non-smokers are free to avoid the smoking areas just as people who don't drink Arkansas Granny Jan 2014 #39

smoke disperses and when smokers huddle around entrances to buildings you need to enter leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #42

That is easier said than done tabbycat31 Jan 2014 #47

I actually get OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #80

I love the smell of totalitarianism in the morning. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #71

Absolutely correct! Thumb up! beaglelover Jan 2014 #62

I may be a little biased on this but I must admit... PoliticalPothead Jan 2014 #5

i know people like that my wife's aunt ( who died from smoking related emphysema ) leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #9

Unless it's the last bong hit Inkfreak Jan 2014 #90

When I was a cig smoker, I always tried to be unimposing. phleshdef Jan 2014 #6

This. Consideration is the key. Shandris Jan 2014 #20

pig farming serves us food smoking serves us cancer leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #29

Dispersed smoke in the air doesn't serve you cancer. Shandris Jan 2014 #35

Dispersed smoke in the air doesn't serve you cancer. example is too narrow leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #40

Living life must terrify you. n/t beaglelover Jan 2014 #65

You are totally anti-science. former9thward Jan 2014 #83

I can go smoke and not die. Fawke Em Jan 2014 #97

My experience is that the overwhelming majority of smokers Mariana Jan 2014 #31

I smoked for a few years when I was having a rough patch in life, OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #84

One smoker has more rights. Savannahmann Jan 2014 #10

My parents smoked in the car and house when i was a Kid Shoulders of Giants Jan 2014 #12

Where do you live? Fawke Em Jan 2014 #17

I did grow up in a factory town in Illinois Shoulders of Giants Jan 2014 #36

I was around smokers as a child a lot OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #85

Why don't they ban tobacco and get it over with? It's poison. LiberalEsto Jan 2014 #15

The same logic applies to alcohol hack89 Jan 2014 #19

There's a significant difference LiberalEsto Jan 2014 #24

If that person gets drunk and then gets into a car then he can kill you. hack89 Jan 2014 #27

Drinking by far is worse when you consider the population OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #86

Smokers want to frame this as a nanny state issue when it is not. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #22

it's nanny state to pasturize milk too then i guess leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #30

Well put. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #33

Do nondrivers have the right to not be sickened by the choices of others? ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #32

(Facepalm) HERE WE GO AGAIN with the "what about cars" fallacy. alp227 Jan 2014 #34

No, but their choices do make people sick. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #37

I would imagine that prohibiting smoking in public areas LanternWaste Jan 2014 #55

You recognize extremes are not needed for smoking, ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #60

And smokers are not shoving cigarettes into Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #43

"denial of the massive amount of pollution emitted by personal vehicles" alp227 Jan 2014 #48

"The lung development...was stunted � about 20 percent smaller than average..." Cerridwen Jan 2014 #45

The reason I chose my screen name is that I ride a bicycle and I'm constantly breathing car fumes Fumesucker Jan 2014 #46

don't like my smoking? FatBuddy Jan 2014 #38

I imagine that same petulance is how many smokers rationalize it. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #56

I totally agree with that editorial. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #44

It will be interesting to see some of the same people who fought against cigarette smoking hughee99 Jan 2014 #49

The issue is that people shouldn't go to jail if they're caught with cannabis. alp227 Jan 2014 #51

I don't disagree on this, but there are people who are looking to ban cigarettes all sorts of places hughee99 Jan 2014 #54

I just know that life became a lot easier when smokers couldn't smoke in public buildings. KitSileya Jan 2014 #50

if I quit smoking and the logic of that quotation holds... dogknob Jan 2014 #53

I don't smoke but I don't care if others do. PeteSelman Jan 2014 #57

You are going to die of something, anti-smokers, someday, sooner or later HockeyMom Jan 2014 #58

I don't blindly cross the street, I don't eat raw or rotten meat, I don't gulp large quantities of DrDan Jan 2014 #69

What is premature? HockeyMom Jan 2014 #72

you understand my comment DrDan Jan 2014 #75

You misunderstand ME HockeyMom Jan 2014 #91

I stay away from smokers, as I said . . . that means I recognize the science surrounding DrDan Jan 2014 #92

You will get sick from THIRD HAND smoking HockeyMom Jan 2014 #94

ok - (although you are the one who continues to bring up 3rd hand smoking, not me) DrDan Jan 2014 #96

Exactly! Ditto for the anti-fracking folks. noamnety Jan 2014 #87

it so nice to go into a bar or restaurant and not smell cigarettes madrchsod Jan 2014 #61

Its also nice to go to a bar Go Vols Jan 2014 #66

If we can get rid of the smokers, can we also get rid of the gungeoneers, too? nt valerief Jan 2014 #64

that would be nice PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #74

Well, that's two of us. We're a movement!!! nt valerief Jan 2014 #89

Both have equal rights under the law...as long as we're all choosing to wear perfume ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #81

Third option MFrohike Jan 2014 #82

this TeamPooka Jan 2014 #93

Smoking is banned in public buildings here Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #88

I smoked for 3 decades before I was ... 99Forever Jan 2014 #95