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In reply to the discussion: Could there EVER be good reason to choose a DLC/THIRD WAY/BLUE DOG presidential nominee again? [View all]wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)conservatives and Bill Clinton were right about welfare as it was previously structured: By detaching income from work and by making no demands on welfare recipients other than a tolerance for intrusive bureaucracy and an assurance that no man lived in the same house as the mother of his children, the old A.F.D.C. program sapped people of their initiative and eroded their self respect.
Also...
Pg.8-9
Examples of "New Democrat speak."
pg. 10
Obama expresses centrist/DLC beliefs on free market competition. He states his feeling that many government programs (social programs) have not worked as advertised.
pg. 11
Obama rejects special interests, or single issue, politics based on race, gender, sexual orientation, or victimhood - one of the purpose of the DLC. "Common good." Bill Clinton.
pg. 20
Despite Barbara Boxer signing on to Rep. Stepanie Tubbs Jones' challenge of the 2004 presidential election, Obama votes to certify it, believing Bush won the election despite evidence of voter fraud in Ohio.
Pg. 23
Obama recognizes the global war on terrorism is real, and not a "bumpersticker slogan." But he calls it a "the battle against international terrorism," one he believes should be addressed both by dealing with global poverty and a "judicious projection of military power."
Pg.24
Though he admits he believes Democratic ideology is more grounded in fact than that of the GOP, Obama expresses disdain for the conspiracy theories of the fringes, "of America being hijacked by an evil cabal." He says the left and right have become "mirror images of each other," whose purpose is "not to pursuade the other side but to keep their bases agitated and assured of the rightness of their respective causes."
pg. 31
Obama says liberals of the 60s/70s valued entitlements over duties and responsibilities.
In the end, the choice was to take a chance on Obama
See, that's a LOT different than what you originally said - "Well, we didn't KNOW we were doing that in 2008, in all fairness." You DID know, you just refused to admit it. Not only did Obama's own policy statements mirror the DLC's, he even said Bill Clinton was correct in those policies.
But 'progressives' comforted themselves because of a blackcommentator article.