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47. Of course repugs should also get called out

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 11, 2014, 02:08 PM

Jan 2014

for any warmongering. However, IMHO, Obama is warning his fellow democrats that they must be prepared to be judged by the voters that put them in office if they will risk a war with Iran before all other options have been played out.

It will be these voters and their children that will be asked to fight and die in this war. They will definitely want to know this before they reelect these politicians. As for warning the voters of the repug warmongers, I am not sure any of them will listen or care.

I had not considered Israel as a motive for their calls for action against Iran, this old brain is slowing down rapidly these days. But that, again IMHO, makes it even worse that they are prepared to risk US lives for a country that is slowly becoming an Apartheid nation as it continues to swallow up land it does not own and treats many of its own as second class citizens.

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So President Obama calls out Democratic Senators and accuses them of 'wanting war.' Seriously? [View all] Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 OP

In the middle of peace negotiations WhiteTara Jan 2014 #1

Your assessment is spot on! rdharma Jan 2014 #2

I would like some clarity too on that issue. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #3

"It will always be that way"? randome Jan 2014 #40

I have long been pessimistic about the Middle East in general. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #45

This is the first attempt on either side at peace WhiteTara Jan 2014 #42

exactly. nt Viva_La_Revolution Jan 2014 #4

let's all blame the Jews dlwickham Jan 2014 #6

I'm sorry it sounds like that, WhiteTara Jan 2014 #10

Are all those Senators sponsoring sb1881 Jewish? rdharma Jan 2014 #11

faking claims of anti-Semitism is what is really disgusting and undermines real efforts to combat Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #13

Thank you..As the late, great Molly Ivins once said "We cannot have a full-throated discussion whathehell Jan 2014 #46

What the fuck are you talking about? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #43

"AIPAC is the answer" hack89 Jan 2014 #44

No saying AIPAC has too much power is not the same thing as saying Jews have too much power Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #54

A dog whistle is a dog whistle. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #62

There is no dog whistle, AIPAC is a lobby group that does not represent Jews as a whole Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #63

Sure. Just like "urban crime" is an innocent term hack89 Jan 2014 #64

Awful comparision, there is no lobby group called Urban Crime Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #66

Ok. hack89 Jan 2014 #68

Let me just ask one question... Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #69

If you can show the poster is Jewish hack89 Jan 2014 #70

It does not matter what religion the poster is... Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #73

So how do you know the poster was not using a dog whistle? hack89 Jan 2014 #75

How do you know they were using a dog whistle? Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #77

Ok. Nt hack89 Jan 2014 #79

I am not Jewish. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #76

To be clear I never said that you opposed Israel because it was a Jewish country Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #80

I responded to the wrong person. Sorry! nt Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #82

What is really disgusting is refering to AIPAC as "the Jews" Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #48

Can you provide a link to where he said this; I'd like to see the context. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #5

Another damned liberal asking for facts!!!! groundloop Jan 2014 #7

As posted in another thread: Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #8

OK - thanks for the context el_bryanto Jan 2014 #9

Obviously. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #15

It's the man bites dog story el_bryanto Jan 2014 #28

That's one of my main points. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #38

Of course repugs should also get called out pennylane100 Jan 2014 #47

The statement mentions neither Republicans nor Democrats muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #65

Why did you attribute the quote "They want war!" to the President? rdharma Jan 2014 #12

And what does this mean? Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #14

Why should the President disavow some quote he never made....... rdharma Jan 2014 #19

The last time I checked, Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #22

Which Administration official made the "They want war!" quote? rdharma Jan 2014 #25

They want Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #31

Hmmmm! So nobody said "They want war!". rdharma Jan 2014 #35

See post #8. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #37

Hyperbole and unattributable quotes.... nt rdharma Jan 2014 #50

I think it is a fair assertion. Attempting to derail the Executive branch's peace negotiations in a stevenleser Jan 2014 #16

Exactly! nt rdharma Jan 2014 #20

The only reason to push for additional sanctions now, in advance of violations truebluegreen Jan 2014 #17

A vote for the sanctions bill is a vote for war. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #18

Maybe AIPAC has some of Bob's interesting Dominican "vacation" photos. nt rdharma Jan 2014 #23

These Senators are trying to get some bucks from a JoePhilly Jan 2014 #21

Interesting observation....... very likely the case. nt rdharma Jan 2014 #27

Says the (edit administration) who has no problem droning (mostly) brown folks around the world. nt kelly1mm Jan 2014 #24

Problem is...... the President didn't say that! rdharma Jan 2014 #29

Its the THANKS OBAMA mindset. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #32

If the entire group had been blasted, Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #39

The entire group was "blasted" ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #52

LMAO. THANKS OBAMA!!!!! stevenleser Jan 2014 #56

Ok, fair enough. But he still has no problem droning folks so anyone in his administration kelly1mm Jan 2014 #36

Strange tactic from an anti-war activist. Criticizing being anti-war in this instance because stevenleser Jan 2014 #60

I am not an anti-war activist. I am an anti-hypocrisy activist (in this case). nt kelly1mm Jan 2014 #87

You keep using that word. I donna think it means what you think it means. stevenleser Jan 2014 #88

They want war. Iggo Jan 2014 #26

We have been negotiating with Iran on some level for years. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #30

Good cop, bad cop. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #34

FWIW, Senator Cardin responded to my e.mail to him: elleng Jan 2014 #33

He's right BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #41

I am protecting them? Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #49

This is about the Senate where lackeys are undermining our national security BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #55

Republicans may not have been called out over Iran sanctions but... DonViejo Jan 2014 #58

Oh come on now. These Senators are clearly pushing a path that is more likely to lead to war TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #51

He's just calling them like he sees it. Chan790 Jan 2014 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author hughee99 Jan 2014 #57

So anyone who doesn't think the current plan is the best plan wants war? hughee99 Jan 2014 #59

The current plan is diplomacy, so they're right. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #67

"Diplomacy" isn't a plan, but you already knew that. n/t hughee99 Jan 2014 #71

actually, it is, as in "the plan is to pursue good faith negotiations to peacefully geek tragedy Jan 2014 #81

No, the plan has actual specifics, not just "pursue good faith negotiations". hughee99 Jan 2014 #85

He should call them out if they are undermining his efforts. GoneFishin Jan 2014 #61

I think it's productive and I'm glad you made a post about it. ucrdem Jan 2014 #72

I guess it's better than call them all war-mongering millionaires... Amonester Jan 2014 #74

i stand by the President. spanone Jan 2014 #78

So aipac represents all Jews now? ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #83

Some Senators do want war - always and forever... polichick Jan 2014 #84

Sorry the move by so-called democrats IS NOT warranted. They are effectively telling the SOS and lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #86

Obama is the worst warmonger I have ever seen. eom Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #89