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8. For the rest of his term, and I'm no fucking mind reader or Rocket scientist but....

Mon Jan 13, 2014, 12:29 AM

Jan 2014

“I’m not sure why we should be making concessions when the Republicans show absolutely no willingness to do the same,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

“I’m not sure why we should be making concessions when the Republicans show absolutely no willingness to do the same,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

“I’m not sure why we should be making concessions when the Republicans show absolutely no willingness to do the same,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

“I’m not sure why we should be making concessions when the Republicans show absolutely no willingness to do the same,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

“I’m not sure why we should be making concessions when the Republicans show absolutely no willingness to do the same,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

“I’m not sure why we should be making concessions when the Republicans show absolutely no willingness to do the same,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).

Earth to Obama, can you hear me now!?

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Democrats plead with Obama to abandon Social Security cut [View all] boston bean Jan 2014 OP

Just remember that it is not a slash...so it won't be as bad. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #1

It is worse than a slash ... Gordon Alf Shumway Jan 2014 #13

Yes Gordon it is death by a 1000 cuts. saidsimplesimon Jan 2014 #230

Well get ready for the fight ... Gordon Alf Shumway Jan 2014 #231

Our Federal Reserve is still buying seventy-five billion in "Derivatives" from banks every month. another_liberal Jan 2014 #116

+1. (Sorry I posted about the Fed before reading your post.) merrily Jan 2014 #254

The bailout pales in comparison with trillions from the Fed. merrily Jan 2014 #253

It is a sad time indeed when Democrats have to plead with a doc03 Jan 2014 #2

It is even more sad that some won't acknowledge it even when is is bearing down on them. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #4

ignore those idiots Skittles Jan 2014 #14

Ignore those idiots. They are not credible. bvar22 Jan 2014 #42

exactly Skittles Jan 2014 #150

I doubt that. Especially if HRC is elected. Vincardog Jan 2014 #204

lol Skittles Jan 2014 #208

Seriously. imo in that situation you have to put "Democratic" in quotes. polichick Jan 2014 #62

BHO is a former Reagan Republican. He said so himself. Why won't people believe him ??? blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #149

He's really not Reagan. woo me with science Jan 2014 #173

Too bad he put that D behind his name... polichick Jan 2014 #179

My thoughts exactly... whathehell Jan 2014 #223

That is because there is no Democratic Party. Only the Repug party and TeaParty. NT bonniebgood Jan 2014 #232

Don't you know that this post, Democrat's uneasyness with PBO's proposed cuts, and anybody R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #3

Senator Chris Murphy never really loved him!! QC Jan 2014 #32

Isn't he the senator that spent a day shadowing a homeless man to know what it's like? CrispyQ Jan 2014 #117

The only branch that should be extended to Republicans is a switch. Barack_America Jan 2014 #5

Obama's rescinded proposals in the past, huge ones MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #6

True love must be pursued at all costs. jsr Jan 2014 #12

Obama loves him some ronnie. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #134

K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #7

For the rest of his term, and I'm no fucking mind reader or Rocket scientist but.... Phlem Jan 2014 #8

"but maybe they might really like me this time!" FatBuddy Jan 2014 #9

Yep. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #44

Or maybe he agrees with them on several issues? If so, I wish he would have told us back in 2008. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #245

it disgusts me to think that FatBuddy Jan 2014 #246

BHO does what he wants. He's not running for reelection anymore. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #152

I know right? Phlem Jan 2014 #161

+++1000 nt Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #201

Democrats plead with Democratic president to abandon Social Security cut jsr Jan 2014 #10

Honestly, it makes me weep in frustration. That SS cuts are even Nay Jan 2014 #39

+1000 n/t whathehell Jan 2014 #226

Everything! whathehell Jan 2014 #224

Are we still pretending this is super chess? Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #11

That's sad, but it made me laugh. --nt CrispyQ Jan 2014 #118

It comes with a poverty exception and will never pass. joshcryer Jan 2014 #15

It's really upside down when there are those who think Christie is Presidential material VPStoltz Jan 2014 #16

Lame duck president fouling the waters for democrats at midterm. uggghhh. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #17

If this goes through newfie11 Jan 2014 #24

But remember, if Dems don't get gobs of votes in the midterms, it's all Nay Jan 2014 #40

Looks like the SS give-away, will be just in time to hurt the DEMS at midterms. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #154

b and s Whisp Jan 2014 #91

So cutting SS is OK if done by Obama? lark Jan 2014 #120

get back to me when he does this 'cut'... Whisp Jan 2014 #121

It's not just up to him lark Jan 2014 #124

PAY NO ATTENTION TO DEMOCRATIC SENATORS WHEN THEY VOICE CONCERN OVER SOCIAL SECURITY Maedhros Jan 2014 #129

Wasn't his proposal ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #148

If you exempt the elderly and disabled, you have exempted 100% of benficiaries of Social Security Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #182

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #189

Can YOU maybe, answer a question I have been asking for years since Bush et al sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #247

First, Let's be clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #248

Thank you for your civil response. I do see your pov and obviously I do not agree that Democrats sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #249

I'm afraid the differences in our POVs ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #252

I'm glad this is in GD. I got banned from the Obama forum for saying what I think loudsue Jan 2014 #18

I knew I liked you. Same thing happened to me. Scuba Jan 2014 #25

I'm glad to know I'm in good company! loudsue Jan 2014 #36

me as well lol Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #58

And me. FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #77

Yep, same here. Thats how the Greatest Page is Censored. bahrbearian Jan 2014 #30

We should start a forum of our own: people who got kicked out of the Obama forum loudsue Jan 2014 #37

Yes and it would be a protected group. Heads would explode. bahrbearian Jan 2014 #38

Or it would be populated with a bunch of anti-President Obama folks ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #56

More like disappointed voters. bahrbearian Jan 2014 #71

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #76

Obama claims the power to execute American citizens without due process. Maedhros Jan 2014 #131

President Obama claims the power to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #141

So - you're okay with the President killing whomever he wants Maedhros Jan 2014 #218

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #221

You make many assumptions. Maedhros Jan 2014 #236

The assumptions I make are based on ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #238

Short answer: you don't know, and are trusting the military and the CIA to not lie to us. Maedhros Jan 2014 #239

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #240

It's not actually a war dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #233

I largely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #234

Overstated, but fairly on target. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #138

Don't you mean populated by the vast majority of DUers? A Simple Game Jan 2014 #133

I don't need to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #143

Wow you make it sound good. I don't see most of it your way but let's hope you are right. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #151

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #165

You do realize President Obama isn't running in 2014? A Simple Game Jan 2014 #172

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #185

Why? tjl148 Jan 2014 #217

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #220

Actually, see post 42 Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #136

"Complete (President) Obama-lust? ... Really? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #145

Thank you. whathehell Jan 2014 #225

I'm in. No dissent allowed over there. Just pretty pictures, and praise of all things Obama. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #157

I'll join MNBrewer Jan 2014 #183

.....Where never is heard..... a discouraging word, bvar22 Jan 2014 #47

You probably were "banned" because you insist on promoting a false narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #55

Do you support President Obama's offer? Broward Jan 2014 #81

As it was proposed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #89

So, you believe that most Social Security recipient's benefits are too generous? TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #107

NO, that is NOT my argument ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #109

If the offer is okay then you are saying benefits are too generous except for the very bottom TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #177

Have you read ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #192

So, you appear to be supportive of the offer as some type of political calculation. Broward Jan 2014 #184

The Republicans don't need proof of anything, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #199

Given the choice between traditional Democratic values Maedhros Jan 2014 #132

It exempts only those on means tested benefits, it includes those on Social Security. It just does. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #187

No, it doesn't. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #216

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #219

You're so funny. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #241

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #243

Same deal. My they are extremely protective of Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #105

I didn't last long in there either LiberalLovinLug Jan 2014 #119

Permanent damage for short term gain AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #19

It's not a game Oilwellian Jan 2014 #21

It is a game AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #22

he gives them are things they have wanted for decades, but they don't dare because it would be DJ13 Jan 2014 #195

Clinton made no such deals witht he GOP AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #197

Here is what he promised "on the Campaign Trail": bvar22 Jan 2014 #49

Here were his exact words - October 2012 DrDan Jan 2014 #70

Here are his exact words: bvar22 Jan 2014 #198

yet he was pitching CCPI 4 years later DrDan Jan 2014 #202

I don't have to explain it. bvar22 Jan 2014 #207

Maybe Obama lied. Just sayin'. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #158

Social Security has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the debt or the deficit MiniMe Jan 2014 #20

Is THIS too much to expect from a Democratic President? bvar22 Jan 2014 #50

'Social Security has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the debt or the deficit.." blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #159

once again the far left are standing in the way of entitlement reform Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #23

+8,749 Scuba Jan 2014 #26

Evidently it is their own elections that concern them, not the plight of those depending on SS Fumesucker Jan 2014 #27

They SHOULD be concerned about this if nothing else... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #60

This is it!!! Here it comes!!! Any second!!! JoePhilly Jan 2014 #28

About as often as the apologists. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #29

Its not going to happen. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #31

its a topic ta any liberal or progressive SHOULD freak out about bowens43 Jan 2014 #33

Crying wolf is not an intelligent political strategy. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #41

The only reason SS wasn't cut was because of the GOP, not Obama. Dawgs Jan 2014 #54

Please, remind me again ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #61

so its ok to SS for the rest? DrDan Jan 2014 #78

I thought this was about income inequity ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #85

its about cuts to Social Security DrDan Jan 2014 #103

I would agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #106

I completely agree. This is just a standard DU freakout. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #127

The GOP would be happy to do it, don't think they wouldn't. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #171

Name one "negotiation" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #180

His proposal is at this link and it sure as hell is not what you claim it is.... Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #188

But is all of it pre-conditioned on ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #194

He keeps offering it because he really doesn't want it.... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #64

The GOP saved Social Security from Obama! Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #114

Why do you defend "crying wolf" by forwarding this proposal over and over then? TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #229

Isn't that the point of the article posted? That Democrats are trying to make sure SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #48

I like the word "plead" in the title ... sounds kinda desperate ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #86

Well if he would just come out and say S.S. is off the table SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #94

I have not said anything about what such cuts would mean to me personally. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #98

So you want them to play games with peoples lives? SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #102

Since plead is in the title of the article what would you suggest? rpannier Jan 2014 #222

I'm simply pointing out how easy it is for the media to JoePhilly Jan 2014 #227

Okay. That's cool rpannier Jan 2014 #228

Regular freak outs have become superfreak outs. Whisp Jan 2014 #97

LOL ... super freaky!! JoePhilly Jan 2014 #100

If it isn't going to happen then stop the phony discussions and move on to the people's business TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #181

As a 60 something DU'er, my first inclination is to say something very rude. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #46

ya i feel the same way. madrchsod Jan 2014 #63

ahhh ... go for it ... I don't alert. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #66

your buddies do. Alerting is not a 1-1 relationship. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #72

My "buddies"? JoePhilly Jan 2014 #74

The blacklist is a tool created by the admins. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #190

How magnanimous of you Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #112

01/11/14 12:00 PM EST G_j Jan 2014 #51

Whatever gets us to stop talking about the Christie scandal. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #67

Oh. now I understand.. G_j Jan 2014 #69

Na, the Hill is. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #73

Spot On. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #153

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #57

Maybe some one will predict that he'll announce SS cuts in the SOTU speech. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #75

I wonder why ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #80

And ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #90

I have tried to explain the dynamic that is in play ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #92

Correct ... if you read that article closely ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #96

I don't believe it's even on the gop's actual agenda ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #101

Here's a suggestion Oilwellian Jan 2014 #122

Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #144

That's the key to the whole thing. Truthfully, as one going on SS shortly, I'd be for that. Hoyt Jan 2014 #99

I wish folks would sit back and really look at the bind President Obama's 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #104

Poor baby. Jakes Progress Jan 2014 #242

He is doing the job ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #244

This time for sure!!... SidDithers Jan 2014 #235

It would be interesting to research all of the OPs JoePhilly Jan 2014 #237

So wait, they would be ok with screwing us if it wasn't going to cause them problems next fall? Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #34

Agreed. We really need more progressives in the party lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #53

Well, ProSense Jan 2014 #35

It's his favorite thing Pro. Of course he will. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #65

Geez, this is about them? ananda Jan 2014 #43

The first sentence is really telling. It is NOT because it will be so bad for all of us, but so that robinlynne Jan 2014 #45

Oh now they need the liberal base? What happened to their corporate 3rd way right leaning centrists? L0oniX Jan 2014 #52

if he loses the senate he might as well resign. madrchsod Jan 2014 #59

On the contrary, that will make his real objectives all the easier to accomplish FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #84

+1. That's the REAL 11-Dimensional Chess. Most everyone is waking up to the fact that WE'VE BEEN blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #162

Regarding Sen. Murphy's statement: whether or not the Rs make concessions... FlyByNight Jan 2014 #68

How do Cuts to SocSec fredamae Jan 2014 #79

Everybody knows that cuts to SS won't affect the budget one single whit. Even Obama knows it. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #163

olive branch to Rs? Deep13 Jan 2014 #82

In Washington DC, it's known as "bi-partisan theatre." blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #164

an OLIVE BRANCH to Republicans??? grasswire Jan 2014 #83

Why can't Obama stand up against the pugs??? blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #166

Why is this even an issue? KansDem Jan 2014 #87

Mr. Pres is thinking about his retirement. Phlem Jan 2014 #128

It's not about a difficult midterm election - it's about THE PEOPLE. polichick Jan 2014 #88

I don't understand the problem ladywnch Jan 2014 #93

Never worked before. And won't work now. But you knew that already. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #168

Unfortunately, .......yes, I know ladywnch Jan 2014 #258

Let's not forget that "Dems" - Prez and Congress - "borrowed" money from SS fund... polichick Jan 2014 #95

Yep. It's called theft. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #170

People who say they trust the President to negotiate the TPP for us should READ THIS! n/t hughee99 Jan 2014 #108

Completely ignoring the fact Egnever Jan 2014 #110

And yet the President himself calls the ACA 'Obamacare'. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #175

Here we go again. woo me with science Jan 2014 #111

We're well into our 15th round of SS cuts by the Obama Administration Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #115

Yes, the President does seem to keep trying to put Social Security on the cutting block Maedhros Jan 2014 #137

The "Grand Betrayal" timed to cost DEMS the midterm election for 2014? Obama can then go farther to blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #174

This keeps coming up, but no such thing seems to ever MineralMan Jan 2014 #113

It's only in Obama's 2014 Budget Proposal Oilwellian Jan 2014 #123

Recommend! KoKo Jan 2014 #126

We shall see. MineralMan Jan 2014 #130

Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2014 #257

Where's the logic in that? What reason do you suggest exists for making proposals which are not Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #167

I do not know. I'm not a political MineralMan Jan 2014 #200

oops. Phlem Jan 2014 #186

Great pic Oilwellian Jan 2014 #125

Yeah, they want to save their asses. malthaussen Jan 2014 #135

he better think very hard rtracey Jan 2014 #139

How do we really know if he even CARES??? blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #176

those stinking/stupid kibitzers need to sit down and shut up stupidicus Jan 2014 #140

Thank you. And what a dishonest, despicable Third Way talking point woo me with science Jan 2014 #142

Thank you for saying what needed to be said Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #156

The Democratic Party has been hijacked. Broward Jan 2014 #160

Destroying this Country from the inside out. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #178

well said woo stupidicus Jan 2014 #210

Well said! nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #251

The senators are right. If you want liberal Democrats to stay home, just put that chained JDPriestly Jan 2014 #146

Nor will I. Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #250

Ha. Good luck with that. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #147

It is the fact that Chained CPI was actually PROPOSED that is the killer. djean111 Jan 2014 #155

Where did this even come from? Arkana Jan 2014 #169

He has not taken it out of his budget proposal Oilwellian Jan 2014 #193

It won't happen, but it would serve a lot of seniors right. gulliver Jan 2014 #191

I hope they are also planning to give back to me, some of the bread I paid into SS over a lifetime. meti57b Jan 2014 #196

Considering inflation, the lousy 1% cost of living increase they give to SS is pathetic. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #203

You don't give the Republicans a loaded gun Harmony Blue Jan 2014 #205

Obama is a terrible negotiator walkingman Jan 2014 #206

maybe he's doing this on purpose in response to the great sit-out of 2010 or maybe leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #209

Obama said he would not touch Social Security INdemo Jan 2014 #211

His benefactors would not be pleased should Obama listen to them. NorthCarolina Jan 2014 #212

What a choad. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #213

Obama, your legacy isn't to do a deal with the repukes, it's to whip their ass on point Jan 2014 #214

Hell No... ReRe Jan 2014 #215

Where have Democrats been on this until now? merrily Jan 2014 #255

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #256