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56. Judges can be objective

Mon Jan 13, 2014, 06:06 PM

Jan 2014

IMO that's a little harsh. Their job is to hear both sides. They are not employees of the government in that sense. The government isn't even a party to the Libertarian's lawsuit in this scenario.

That is the way it was at common law, before the EPA, etc. That it didn't work is sort of borne out by that fact, which libertarians can't seem to grasp. I recall Ayn Rand admitted she wanted to go back to the 19th century.

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