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WeekendWarrior

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75. It was the PROSECUTOR who said it

Mon Jan 13, 2014, 07:42 PM

Jan 2014

and a panel of judges found his behavior unacceptable. And prosecutors say a lot of things. I've seen plenty of them insist a wrongfully convicted man was rightfully convicted, even in the face of DNA evidence that proves otherwise.

Like I said, there's not proof. And, honestly, if a prosecutor felt there WAS enough evidence, he would have prosecuted. Lack of evidence has never stopped them before.

I find it interesting that people here on DU, who claim to be progressive, are so willing to convict Allen in the face of no credible evidence whatsoever.

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Woody Allen may well be a despicable creep and pedophile. He's still a great artist [View all] cali Jan 2014 OP

Regardless... I can't watch any of his stuff Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #1

I can watch his stuff as long as he's not in any of it. pnwmom Jan 2014 #9

Me, too. I'm amazed they gave him that award. I'm not surprised he didn't show. valerief Jan 2014 #80

Yep. But his work will always be tainted. redqueen Jan 2014 #2

I disagree. In 25 years, he'll be dead. His movies will still be watched. cali Jan 2014 #3

I never said people will stop watching his films. redqueen Jan 2014 #5

And he'll still be a loathesome creep and child molester theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #57

Leni Riefenstahl was a great artist, too. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #4

lol. nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #10

double lol DontTreadOnMe Jan 2014 #126

She was a great artist. Her work is still studied in film school and film appreciation classes. kelly1mm Jan 2014 #28

Ha! MADem Jan 2014 #31

she is probably still the best female director ever dsc Jan 2014 #88

David Lynch? The guy's a bit of a weirdo, but I've never heard of him doing anything especially nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #98

Everybody has to draw their own line - I do it, you do it, we all do it, consciously or not. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #97

He's a piece of shit SaltyBro Jan 2014 #6

I believe his movies, their style, are an acquired taste... Tikki Jan 2014 #7

I have never acquired a taste for his works either. Skidmore Jan 2014 #114

I agree deutsey Jan 2014 #8

They're just movies. Nothing more. randome Jan 2014 #11

they're just sculptures, nothing more. They're just poems, nothing more. they're just paintings cali Jan 2014 #13

Of the hundreds of thousands of great works of art in the world... randome Jan 2014 #14

sure, but you're one person. As far as the world of film making goes, Allen is a cali Jan 2014 #15

Holy cow, get a grip. tabasco Jan 2014 #83

K&R. He is a brilliant artist quinnox Jan 2014 #12

Over-rated schlock. GeorgeGist Jan 2014 #16

Agreed LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #49

Crimes & Misdemeanors? Hannah and her Sisters? Brilliant stuff, LeftinOH Jan 2014 #119

So, to paraphrase LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #121

Some would say the same about Roman Polanski. nt justiceischeap Jan 2014 #17

I have. Frequently. WillowTree Jan 2014 #78

I would. Chinatown is one of the best American pictures ever. El_Johns Jan 2014 #94

He's a really crappy actor. stopbush Jan 2014 #18

Gee when you are brave enough to direct your own films HangOnKids Jan 2014 #27

So nobody is allowed to have an opinion about anything that isn't their metier? stopbush Jan 2014 #112

Yip Yip Yip HangOnKids Jan 2014 #115

good director and one of the BEST SCREENWRITERS EVER JCMach1 Jan 2014 #19

If he's a pedophile, I don't care about his artistry. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #20

If lame54 Jan 2014 #23

Yes, if. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #41

He's dead to me. Throd Jan 2014 #21

Cali! Nice to see you! BainsBane Jan 2014 #22

thank you. nice of you to say. cali Jan 2014 #32

I don't see rewarding pedophiles with awards as a good thing. boston bean Jan 2014 #24

so deport him. Oh, can't. librechik Jan 2014 #25

He was just the victim of one pissed off former lover. CBGLuthier Jan 2014 #26

He was a young girl's father, then he had sex with her. He did that all by himself. Squinch Jan 2014 #69

Andre Previn is Soon Yi Previn's father. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #113

I don't think Mia fathered any children Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #74

Tough, I thought Blue Jasmine was poor, poor, poor, poor, poor NoOneMan Jan 2014 #29

Blue Jasmine was brilliant WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #52

No, it really wasn't NoOneMan Jan 2014 #56

Total agree with you NoOneMan. lady lib Jan 2014 #72

I always say, to each his own WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #73

Cardinal Law is said to be a good conversationalist....I don't wanna talk to him, though. MADem Jan 2014 #30

this isn't about what you personally think of Allen cali Jan 2014 #33

Well, I addressed that whole "impact on the field" thing in the body of my post. MADem Jan 2014 #39

no, you really didn't. a comment with your personal opinion of the awards cali Jan 2014 #43

Look, everyone here is expressing "opinion" -- even you. And no one's, not even yours, not even MADem Jan 2014 #63

THAT whole movie had a very high creep factor. Squinch Jan 2014 #71

And the singer of that tune got the same award they just gave "Woody!" (Apt name, I suppose, the MADem Jan 2014 #79

This may be the thing Chevalier is most remembered for... dorkzilla Jan 2014 #105

Haven't seen that in over a half century--not exaggerating, either! nt MADem Jan 2014 #108

Why would anyone claim that Woody Allen is a pedophile? Vattel Jan 2014 #34

that does seem strange quinnox Jan 2014 #37

Because Mia Farrow's daughter (not Soon-yi Previn, another one) says he abused her. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #40

He abused us all maindawg Jan 2014 #76

I didn't know that. I hope it is not true. Vattel Jan 2014 #82

If you're a middle-aged man, then I'd say it's borderline. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #99

People don't like him Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #35

I am not a fan of his body of work. Xyzse Jan 2014 #36

I never liked his movies to begin with get the red out Jan 2014 #38

The obvious rejoinder is "he may be a great artist, but he's still a despicable creep". Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #42

Woody Allen lost me with Manhattan. MineralMan Jan 2014 #44

I'm still amused by Ronan Farrow's Tweet from last June. Jenoch Jan 2014 #45

DAMN! redqueen Jan 2014 #59

Agreed. I don't know about the creep/pedophile part. But, he is a great artist. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #46

And yet, 'Lolita' is considered a great work of fiction. closeupready Jan 2014 #47

Hello? FICTION. Plus, great literature, unlike pap, is more than a story-line. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #55

You miss the point. closeupready Jan 2014 #62

Lolita was a cautionary tale--it wasn't a "How To" book or film. MADem Jan 2014 #65

And IIRC, Humbert in Nabokov's mind was more "evil rapist" than "dashing anti-hero." nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #102

And he never played football! LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #48

But he practices a lot when he is by himself underpants Jan 2014 #53

There's no proof he's a pedophile WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #50

Google. The JUDGE said there was enough to prosecute. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #60

It was the PROSECUTOR who said it WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #75

I never believed the charges vankuria Jan 2014 #86

Actually, I believe the Sinatra thing WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #123

I thought Ronan looks like Mia Farrow vankuria Jan 2014 #128

Judge Elliott Wilk, citing the report from the Yale-New Haven Hospital... countryjake Jan 2014 #110

And where in there does he say WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #122

This pretty much sums up all the evidence WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #125

Actually, I think the -judge- said the opposite. Which is why he never got prosecuted. El_Johns Jan 2014 #95

I agree underpants Jan 2014 #51

From the Roman Polanski School of Condoning Pedophilia. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #54

Yes a great artist. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #58

Funny how someone can be cruel to dogs and be scorned...but being a molestor is ok.. HipChick Jan 2014 #61

Count me out--I don't think his conduct was "OK." I think he's a sick jerk. nt MADem Jan 2014 #66

Child, I read this thread and thought the EXACT same thing!!!!!! Number23 Jan 2014 #84

Exactly... HipChick Jan 2014 #85

Is there an overlap of those who hold Vick to one standard and Allen to another? LanternWaste Jan 2014 #116

That only works if you show your proof.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #91

Both should be scorned for their actions. Neither's talent should be dismissed because of them. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #104

As his generation, more or less, HockeyMom Jan 2014 #64

I disliked Amadeus for the reason that I can separate the art from the artist elias7 Jan 2014 #67

There really isn't a rule against assholes being talented eridani Jan 2014 #68

+1 Atman Jan 2014 #92

As opposed to the Head in the Sand Platoon? LanternWaste Jan 2014 #118

The abberation is the norm? Make shit up much? Atman Jan 2014 #120

He's a pedophile, so he's a shitty artist. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #70

Naaaah. He's a pedophile...AND he's a shitty artist! MADem Jan 2014 #81

Good for him. I'll still pass on all his "great art". WillowTree Jan 2014 #77

I love his movies...especially the older ones. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #87

There are only two of his films I enjoyed: Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #89

I think pretentious is the word you're looking for. Though I enjoyed Annie Hall. But I don't El_Johns Jan 2014 #96

You probably prefer Hannah and her Sisters...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #129

And then there is Phil Specter. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #90

I can't stand the guy. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #93

The Marquis de Sade hated state tyranny and was against the death penalty Rex Jan 2014 #100

I haven't read Marquis de Sade in donkey's years FatBuddy Jan 2014 #106

** alledged Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #101

No trials or convictions nilesobek Jan 2014 #103

*BLECH!*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! me b zola Jan 2014 #107

I'll second that BLECH!!!! countryjake Jan 2014 #111

I agree that an artist's life is totally separate from their work. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #109

So was Michael Jackson KamaAina Jan 2014 #117

Thanks Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #124

I used to love his work but after he started dating the girl who was his "daughter" in his family .. Botany Jan 2014 #127