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142. From another article is said Reeves went to talk to management

Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:25 AM

Jan 2014

but management didn't respond because it was still in the previews. When Reeves returned Oulson asked if he had talked to management and then an argument erupted and someone threw popcorn then the shots were fired. Witnesses said it was over about as fast as it started and they were not sure who threw the popcorn.

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Cummings said the man in the back row got up and left the auditorium, presumably to get a manager. But he came back after a few minutes, without a manager and appearing upset. Moments later, the argument between the two men resumed, and the man in the front row stood up. Cummings said the men started raising their voices.

"Somebody throws popcorn. I'm not sure who threw the popcorn," Cummings said. "And then bang, he was shot."

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A man sitting next to the shooter grabbed the gun out of his hand, and the suspect did not attempt to get away, Cummings said.

"I can't believe people would bring a pistol, a gun, to a movie," Cummings said. "I can't believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn. Over a cellphone."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13/tampa-bay-movie-theater-shooting_n_4590721.html

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Retired police captain kills texter in theater during movie trailer [View all] jsr Jan 2014 OP

Well, that's one way to stop a phone clod Warpy Jan 2014 #1

Or maybe getting up and moving WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #15

That's it, exactly--boy, do they grab those folks and hustle 'em out! nt MADem Jan 2014 #56

Police too used to killing Unarmed Citizens for No Reason FreakinDJ Jan 2014 #103

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #126

Jeebus. It really is the wild, wild west here in the good ole USA meadowlark5 Jan 2014 #2

Clearly the solution is MOAR GUNZ. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #3

Or moar meat thermometerz pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #8

Yikes! Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #21

Seems like nobody died. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #47

What a hot head? Renew Deal Jan 2014 #65

There needs to be a background check for meat thermometers warrant46 Jan 2014 #153

Evidently the Captain takes his coming attractions very seriously. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #4

Right. I could see maybe getting agitated during the movie giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #24

So, aside from that, how was the movie? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #5

Let us know, Mrs. Lincoln. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #44

Thats what I want to know! Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #100

Yet another "responsible gun owner" Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #6

Maybe you missed the part DragonBorn Jan 2014 #10

No I did not miss that part, but I do not see how it is relevant in any way Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #13

The fact that he is a retired police officer exempts him from a lot of gun laws. Glassunion Jan 2014 #26

Well that is something I think should change Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #29

Nearly any law that prohibits firearms in anyway exempts law enforcement and the retired. Glassunion Jan 2014 #31

I see no reason for such exemptions Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #33

It has a lot to do with support. Glassunion Jan 2014 #41

Cops are around to enforce laws, not to lobby for them. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #96

I agree Glassunion Jan 2014 #97

Police "unions" need to be eliminated. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #49

Why the quotes and why should Jenoch Jan 2014 #60

I don't think it is so much about collective barganing Glassunion Jan 2014 #95

Then what is it about? Jenoch Jan 2014 #98

When the union spends more time working to supress Glassunion Jan 2014 #101

I guess it depends on the department. Jenoch Jan 2014 #105

Agree Glassunion Jan 2014 #108

Last year a Minneapolis cop was convicted Jenoch Jan 2014 #121

agreed gopiscrap Jan 2014 #127

Police unions are in the business of defending corrupt cops, suppressing evidence Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #109

Some people who go to prison and do a lot of time Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #38

Its funny that you're right... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #157

Can carry is quite different from "should he carry." You guys don't seem to get that. Hoyt Jan 2014 #32

Understood. Glassunion Jan 2014 #34

It is true that retired LEO can conceal carry. Jenoch Jan 2014 #63

You are correct. Glassunion Jan 2014 #68

We don't have laws that limit Jenoch Jan 2014 #72

As a retired police officer, shouldn't he be MORE responsible... Barack_America Jan 2014 #16

Exactly. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #19

I would rather my broken arm pipoman Jan 2014 #94

The fact that he's a retired police officer... Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #17

Maybe you missed the word RETIRED? WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #18

Maybe you missed the part where the poster said "responsible" not "average"... joeybee12 Jan 2014 #43

he still shot a man for texting his daughter Coexist Jan 2014 #71

(Apropo of nothing incoming) NuclearDem Jan 2014 #131

Remember when many on DU CHEERED WILDLY when that asshole from the NRO threw that lady's phone? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #7

Florida. Police. Ground stander. Twisted fucking asshole murderer. nt valerief Jan 2014 #9

absofuckinglutely insane lillypaddle Jan 2014 #11

Hey man, gotta stand your ground! Barack_America Jan 2014 #12

WTF? Second degree homicide????? What would the asshole have to do to make it first degree? nt valerief Jan 2014 #14

Malice aforethought (premeditation) NightWatcher Jan 2014 #20

He did have premeditation. He thought about taking out his gun before he valerief Jan 2014 #23

You need proof he was planning on killing that guy NightWatcher Jan 2014 #27

Even if it is not the exact law, I believe that anyone carry a gun intends to use it. madinmaryland Jan 2014 #36

I would have no problem with additional penalties Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #46

You are missing what I just said... madinmaryland Jan 2014 #50

I'm not missing it, you are just misusing premeditated. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #52

Carrying a gun is a plan of sorts. A bad plan, but a plan. kwassa Jan 2014 #115

I legally carry a concealed weapon but I have absolutely no intent to use it ... spin Jan 2014 #69

But you intend to use the weapon and take the law into your own hands, based on what you madinmaryland Jan 2014 #74

He intends to interrogate, arrest, set bail, try, incarcerate, and parole someone? X_Digger Jan 2014 #123

So if a man attacks me with a machette, I should doubt that he is actually trying to injure ... spin Jan 2014 #146

If it is a walker, make sure you blow out its brains, but the noise is likely to attract Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #155

You must watch far more Zombie movies than I do. ... spin Jan 2014 #171

this makes no sense to me sorry Egnever Jan 2014 #186

Reread my post. You will find that I said... spin Jan 2014 #187

yes but if you are wrong Egnever Jan 2014 #188

Basically I agree. ... spin Jan 2014 #189

the article says he left the theater and came back in snooper2 Jan 2014 #163

He left. Then he came back and killed the guy. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #102

yeah that is a new development since the story originally broke. Seems like intent to me. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #156

presumably he would have had to have planned to do it. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #22

I just don't get it. How much premeditation is required to be premeditation? nt valerief Jan 2014 #25

More than getting pissed off and firing your weapon. Barack_America Jan 2014 #28

Actually that is not true. whopis01 Jan 2014 #86

Thank you for the truth about premeditation Beaverhausen Jan 2014 #116

So he could have premeditated right before he took out his gun, which was my point. valerief Jan 2014 #148

I wouldn't be so sure whopis01 Jan 2014 #162

I hope he doesn't get away with it. I'm SOOOOO sick of these twisted bullies. nt valerief Jan 2014 #182

He was denied bond whopis01 Jan 2014 #184

I am not a lawyer, but "a plan" and evidence thereof would be my guess. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #30

different mens rea (frame of mind) arely staircase Jan 2014 #91

Good thing the good guy had a gun or that texting might have escalated into something dangerous. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #35

+ One Million Trajan Jan 2014 #70

Just like folks become too old to drive, some gunners become too old to tote. Hoyt Jan 2014 #37

Expect more of this as concealed carry takes hold across the country damnedifIknow Jan 2014 #39

Actually, this has nothing to do with the state's concealed carry law. Glassunion Jan 2014 #57

Right. You can't see a likely increase in incidents like that as concealed carry proliferates? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #75

No. What I am saying is this particular incident has nothing to do with it. Glassunion Jan 2014 #87

Gunner world is a strange place. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #93

I was directly mentioning this particular incident. Glassunion Jan 2014 #113

Over 1,000,000 Florida residents currently have a valid concealed weapons permit. ... spin Jan 2014 #185

As long as he meets the requirements such as having an photo I.D.... Kaleva Jan 2014 #120

where have you been? FatBuddy Jan 2014 #150

Did it look something like this? backscatter712 Jan 2014 #40

People with poor impulse control should not have firearms. Bettie Jan 2014 #42

Reality is "I was pissed and I wasn't gonna let the texting people disobey without consequence. I Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #76

Yep. Says a lot about the kind of people who are cops these days Bettie Jan 2014 #80

Nobody should! gopiscrap Jan 2014 #129

I wonder how many bodies he racked up while he was a cop. Incitatus Jan 2014 #45

I'm sure his years of experience will help him craft his statements. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2014 #51

texting , talking on your cell phone can be real annoying firsttimer Jan 2014 #48

lmfao Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #81

We'll mark that as one vote in favor of murder because phone! DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #99

Reeves should be arrested n/t malaise Jan 2014 #53

Is the key point that this occurred during a trailer? goldent Jan 2014 #54

He's probably not going to like jail much. Police usually don't. nt MADem Jan 2014 #55

Assuming he even gets convicted Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #61

Yeah...Florida. They really do manage to make themselves look pretty bad in the papers, don't MADem Jan 2014 #64

Not really. Of course to really understand the incidents such as this that involve ... spin Jan 2014 #172

I'm not mollified by those "small" numbers, though--a guy name Zimmerman, who murdered a young teen MADem Jan 2014 #173

It is quite possible that Zimmerman chased Martin and confronted him ... spin Jan 2014 #175

Well, I think Zimmerman was a murderer, and your views on Al Gore are bizarre. MADem Jan 2014 #176

I never said that Bush the Younger was a good President. ... spin Jan 2014 #180

That whole bore-Gore-wooden thing was rightwing spin. He was didactic and ponderous MADem Jan 2014 #181

I have heard that Al Gore was far more likable in private... spin Jan 2014 #183

I read popcorn was thrown then the gun was fired. meadowlark5 Jan 2014 #135

An armed society is a polite society. Arger68 Jan 2014 #58

If it takes the threat of gun violence to ensure they're polite, I suspect they're just assholes. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #79

intriguingly, Heinlein's thesis was that the slow-draws and rude people would be weeded out through MisterP Jan 2014 #147

Did I just read elsewhere that the couple had a three year old child with them malaise Jan 2014 #59

Dementia? gaspee Jan 2014 #62

Absolutely, that combativeness, hostility and paranoia, sometimes leading to violence, enough Jan 2014 #77

If only that texter had been armed with a grenade or something. /nt Marr Jan 2014 #66

or manners. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #73

bingo.... Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #78

violence is always the worst alternative.... Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #85

I havr lived in the bad parts of Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #84

+100. n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #106

well, not everyone can display the etiquette and class NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #117

+ uppityperson Jan 2014 #122

Yes, murder is always the appropriate response to bad manners. jeff47 Jan 2014 #118

actually, that's opposite of what i said Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #125

"If only the texter had been armed with (...) manners" jeff47 Jan 2014 #137

yes. and in your world that is the same thing as condoning murder. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #138

Well you are welcome to explain why bad manners justify the shooting. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #139

Absolutely no one said anything about this or any shooting being justified. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #164

Is this post an example of those "old fashioned manners" making the world a better place? nt uppityperson Jan 2014 #168

yes. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #169

So apparently I have to quote you again. jeff47 Jan 2014 #170

Absolutely no one said anything about this or any shooting being justified. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #174

Texting before a movie starts is usually considered okay Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #119

Pretty much spot on. Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #161

A couple of theaters here in my area have banned the use of cell phones once you enter ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #165

How ill-mannered is it to shoot someone in the chest? Marr Jan 2014 #140

Someone sending a text before the movie starts wouldn't bother me. MADem Jan 2014 #177

What a responsible law-abiding gun owner. eom TransitJohn Jan 2014 #67

That seems like a reasonable punishment for someone texting in a movie theater. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #82

I've been in that theater mcar Jan 2014 #83

I guess what I don't get is how did texting bother him. He wasn't talking on the phone RKP5637 Jan 2014 #89

Oh, SHIT!! Not the fucking PREVIEWS!! Systematic Chaos Jan 2014 #90

Hmm phil89 Jan 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #104

So...... AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #107

I see people texting all the time before movies start Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #110

I make my kids stop when the previews start. The light is distracting to people and just rude to me. Logical Jan 2014 #130

I don't text during previews but it's one of those gray areas Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #141

The "texting" part is just a sideshow Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #178

Kinda like the DU jury system... Skip Intro Jan 2014 #111

WOOT WOOT is good its stand your ground,,,, Historic NY Jan 2014 #112

During the trailer? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #114

A Discussion of Proper Phone Etiquette During A Movie Screening. Link Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #124

wow, gun nuts are so far gone they even defend this POS quinnox Jan 2014 #128

It's really scary and profoundly sad Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #132

When you put guns over everything, including innocent lives, its either evil or a screw loose quinnox Jan 2014 #133

Nope... Agschmid Jan 2014 #143

I can understand his frustration, but murder???? Beacool Jan 2014 #134

I think the headline is being a bit facile. X_Digger Jan 2014 #136

From another article is said Reeves went to talk to management Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #142

I don't see why texting would be annoying - it's silent, and the light is small? El_Johns Jan 2014 #145

Here is a photo of the couple that was shot Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #144

Authoritarian doesn't get his way, so he kills problem. Rex Jan 2014 #149

Someone carrying a gun subconsciously expects everyone else to be armed also Fumesucker Jan 2014 #151

Strange. I carry on a regular basis and I don't walk around thinking that everybody ... spin Jan 2014 #190

What part of "subconsciously" did you fail to understand? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #192

Interesting comment. I do use my subconscious mind in a manner that might surprise you. ... spin Jan 2014 #193

Why did you think it necessary to get LiberalElite Jul 2014 #194

it's obvious that you have a far different mindset than I do. ... spin Jul 2014 #195

Hate this story BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #152

The whole thing sucks. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #166

Once again many here are basing their opinion on if the shooter is guilty or innocent on ... spin Jan 2014 #191

If only the texter had a gun, nobody would had got shot! B Calm Jan 2014 #154

and the silicone chip inside his head gets switched to overload BootinUp Jan 2014 #158

This is clear cut Stand Your Ground case Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #159

Careful, the political correctness police and mind readers B Calm Jan 2014 #160

Not just GD but all of DU. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #179

Just another justified cop killing. bobGandolf Jan 2014 #167