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52. Experts used to tell us school children in the fifties, during the

Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:55 PM

Jan 2014

Cold War, that if we ducked and covered during a nuclear attack we wouldn't get burns or radiation from those nuclear bombs. Since the LA Times went to the dark side a decade ago I will want to see some other experts weigh in first who are not connected to the nuclear energy industry.

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West Coast radiation from Fukushima disaster poses no risk, experts say. [View all] zappaman Jan 2014 OP

First it doesn't exist, then it's no problem, then nobody could have anticipated. Nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #1

Well, there's been quite a bit of bullshit out there zappaman Jan 2014 #3

actually... dixiegrrrrl Jan 2014 #8

LOL, yup, here it is, everyone. closeupready Jan 2014 #36

No one really wants to hear that. Unrec. nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #2

Ha! zappaman Jan 2014 #6

I believe time will tell a different story. democratisphere Jan 2014 #4

Global research, eh? zappaman Jan 2014 #9

Oh FFS. You try to counter an article reporting actual science... SidDithers Jan 2014 #12

So...you turned to Gaddafi's fan club for "the truth". (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #26

See my link downthread. You can see radiation levels in real time. There is no issue. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #41

I suspect they'd say that regardless the reality. n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #5

Same LA Times that was in favor of Iraq invasion, right? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #10

Just trying to counter total horseshit like this... zappaman Jan 2014 #14

oh burn. you know, what we really need is a tough, whip-smart investigative journalist to get to the dionysus Jan 2014 #50

What about Hawaii? JaneyVee Jan 2014 #7

Currents go clockwise in the N Pacific. jeff47 Jan 2014 #25

See link downthread. On that website, there is a realtime geiger counter in Hawaii. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #43

Then FUCKING explain this....... Logical Jan 2014 #11

Simple Grilled Calamari zappaman Jan 2014 #15

Hmmmm...not so scary now, but DELICIOUS! n-t Logical Jan 2014 #17

We're gonna need a bigger grill! FSogol Jan 2014 #39

DU rec. BeFree will be here soon to offer the tin-foil perspective... SidDithers Jan 2014 #13

Shame folks dont just blindly believe what they're told, eh? n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #18

You mean from geiger counters in real time? nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #42

Geiger counters don't measure plutonium or americium... Octafish Jan 2014 #67

LOL, by all means, direct me to a radioactive material that does not emit gamma, beta or alpha stevenleser Jan 2014 #68

My mistake. Octafish Jan 2014 #72

BTW, plutonium decays by emitting alpha particles. So, yes. geiger counters detect plutonium just stevenleser Jan 2014 #69

That is so. Octafish Jan 2014 #74

Americium decays by emitting beta particles. Once again, that's how geiger counters detect it. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #70

Thanks again for sharing. Here's a better explanation of Hot Particles... Octafish Jan 2014 #75

You're right, Geiger counters don't measure plutonium or americium. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #78

Columbia Medical Professor: Inhaling just one radioactive hot particle can cause cancer Octafish Jan 2014 #79

Wildly entertaining...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #81

Yeah. Three runaway nuclear piles exposed to the environment is hilarious. Octafish Jan 2014 #82

No, it's your expertise via google search that's wildly entertaining...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #83

Better than siding with TEPCO and the nuclear powers behind them... Octafish Jan 2014 #84

No worries ... Gordon Alf Shumway Jan 2014 #16

Tell that to the sea life Politicalboi Jan 2014 #19

+1 The truth is in the bioaccumulation flamingdem Jan 2014 #22

The problem is no matter what is said by scientists, there are those who will believe otherwise. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #20

I believe!! RobertEarl Jan 2014 #21

Yeah, you can't quite get over that time traveling radiation, can you? jeff47 Jan 2014 #24

Now, now RobertEarl Jan 2014 #28

Even the marine biologists who are talking about the sea lion death rate think you're wrong. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #29

Yep RobertEarl Jan 2014 #30

Ah, yes. The God of the gaps. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #31

Ah yes, time to move the details around since the last theory fell apart. jeff47 Jan 2014 #35

Canary in a coal mine RobertEarl Jan 2014 #46

Doesn't fix the holes in your theory. jeff47 Jan 2014 #47

Interesting RobertEarl Jan 2014 #55

ENEnews is real science? hobbit709 Jan 2014 #48

ENEnews is a better source than you. RobertEarl Jan 2014 #56

You're the one claiming enenews is science. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #57

ENEnews is just a source of news RobertEarl Jan 2014 #58

Me love nukes? That's the funniest thing said about me in months. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #59

What is your problem? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #60

My problem is idiots that go into full blown panic mode when they know nothing hobbit709 Jan 2014 #61

So don't panic RobertEarl Jan 2014 #62

I feel great. How do you feel? hobbit709 Jan 2014 #63

I feel bad for you RobertEarl Jan 2014 #64

Once again you're talking without knowing anything hobbit709 Jan 2014 #65

Nice to know you are reading RobertEarl Jan 2014 #66

Some science about the plume RobertEarl Jan 2014 #77

Did you know that even dolphins in the Atlantic are being affected by Fukushima? zappaman Jan 2014 #76

Yup, too much fear mongering. longship Jan 2014 #23

"experts say." Harumph! The DU "experts" say just the opposite. Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #27

Facts can sometimes help .... with your opinion MindMover Jan 2014 #54

But Geiger counters! Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #32

But when there are more clicks now than before... seattledo Jan 2014 #33

No, there isn't obviously a problem. jeff47 Jan 2014 #34

Trace levels can still be dangerous Harmony Blue Jan 2014 #37

I'll take Helen Caldicott's word over any nuclear industry lackey. Octafish Jan 2014 #38

They are correct. There is a website that links geiger counters globally. One can see for themselves stevenleser Jan 2014 #40

Well how the hell am I supposed to panic with news like this? Orrex Jan 2014 #44

Yeah, Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #45

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied" Thorin_Oakenshield Jan 2014 #49

If we ask someone in authority whether the atmosphere is made of cheese, they will deny it. stevenleser Jan 2014 #51

Experts used to tell us school children in the fifties, during the Cleita Jan 2014 #52

Facts can sometimes help .... MindMover Jan 2014 #53

I have some yummy Humpy in my freezer... countryjake Jan 2014 #71

I'd love to make a West Coast interpretation of J.W. Jackson's Bluefish Pat� Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #73

Otherwise, economies and industries (seafood, e.g.) would collapse, so "NO RISK," people! WinkyDink Jan 2014 #80