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178. The "texting" part is just a sideshow

Tue Jan 14, 2014, 07:01 PM

Jan 2014

The real story is some overly aggressive nutbar was unwilling or unable to peaceably solve a minor conflict (ironic, given his former career), made a conscious choice to introduce gunfire into the conversation, and killed an unarmed person just to prove who was "right"... If it wasn't texting, it would have been something else -- Maybe the victim's baseball cap was blocking the view; or maybe his t-shirt was too yellow, or maybe he was breathing up too much air...

And pay no attention to the trolls and stand-up gallows comedians trying to make jokes or mitigate this...If there was a crying baby and the nutbar shot it while in a red-mist rage, there wouldn't be any jokes here even though we *all* hate loud crying babies in public places...Nevermind the fact that if every breach of etiquette or polite manners meant a summary death sentence, there wouldn't be anyone left alive on the planet...

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Retired police captain kills texter in theater during movie trailer [View all] jsr Jan 2014 OP

Well, that's one way to stop a phone clod Warpy Jan 2014 #1

Or maybe getting up and moving WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #15

That's it, exactly--boy, do they grab those folks and hustle 'em out! nt MADem Jan 2014 #56

Police too used to killing Unarmed Citizens for No Reason FreakinDJ Jan 2014 #103

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #126

Jeebus. It really is the wild, wild west here in the good ole USA meadowlark5 Jan 2014 #2

Clearly the solution is MOAR GUNZ. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #3

Or moar meat thermometerz pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #8

Yikes! Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #21

Seems like nobody died. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #47

What a hot head? Renew Deal Jan 2014 #65

There needs to be a background check for meat thermometers warrant46 Jan 2014 #153

Evidently the Captain takes his coming attractions very seriously. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #4

Right. I could see maybe getting agitated during the movie giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #24

So, aside from that, how was the movie? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #5

Let us know, Mrs. Lincoln. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #44

Thats what I want to know! Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #100

Yet another "responsible gun owner" Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #6

Maybe you missed the part DragonBorn Jan 2014 #10

No I did not miss that part, but I do not see how it is relevant in any way Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #13

The fact that he is a retired police officer exempts him from a lot of gun laws. Glassunion Jan 2014 #26

Well that is something I think should change Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #29

Nearly any law that prohibits firearms in anyway exempts law enforcement and the retired. Glassunion Jan 2014 #31

I see no reason for such exemptions Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #33

It has a lot to do with support. Glassunion Jan 2014 #41

Cops are around to enforce laws, not to lobby for them. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #96

I agree Glassunion Jan 2014 #97

Police "unions" need to be eliminated. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #49

Why the quotes and why should Jenoch Jan 2014 #60

I don't think it is so much about collective barganing Glassunion Jan 2014 #95

Then what is it about? Jenoch Jan 2014 #98

When the union spends more time working to supress Glassunion Jan 2014 #101

I guess it depends on the department. Jenoch Jan 2014 #105

Agree Glassunion Jan 2014 #108

Last year a Minneapolis cop was convicted Jenoch Jan 2014 #121

agreed gopiscrap Jan 2014 #127

Police unions are in the business of defending corrupt cops, suppressing evidence Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #109

Some people who go to prison and do a lot of time Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #38

Its funny that you're right... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #157

Can carry is quite different from "should he carry." You guys don't seem to get that. Hoyt Jan 2014 #32

Understood. Glassunion Jan 2014 #34

It is true that retired LEO can conceal carry. Jenoch Jan 2014 #63

You are correct. Glassunion Jan 2014 #68

We don't have laws that limit Jenoch Jan 2014 #72

As a retired police officer, shouldn't he be MORE responsible... Barack_America Jan 2014 #16

Exactly. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #19

I would rather my broken arm pipoman Jan 2014 #94

The fact that he's a retired police officer... Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #17

Maybe you missed the word RETIRED? WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #18

Maybe you missed the part where the poster said "responsible" not "average"... joeybee12 Jan 2014 #43

he still shot a man for texting his daughter Coexist Jan 2014 #71

(Apropo of nothing incoming) NuclearDem Jan 2014 #131

Remember when many on DU CHEERED WILDLY when that asshole from the NRO threw that lady's phone? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #7

Florida. Police. Ground stander. Twisted fucking asshole murderer. nt valerief Jan 2014 #9

absofuckinglutely insane lillypaddle Jan 2014 #11

Hey man, gotta stand your ground! Barack_America Jan 2014 #12

WTF? Second degree homicide????? What would the asshole have to do to make it first degree? nt valerief Jan 2014 #14

Malice aforethought (premeditation) NightWatcher Jan 2014 #20

He did have premeditation. He thought about taking out his gun before he valerief Jan 2014 #23

You need proof he was planning on killing that guy NightWatcher Jan 2014 #27

Even if it is not the exact law, I believe that anyone carry a gun intends to use it. madinmaryland Jan 2014 #36

I would have no problem with additional penalties Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #46

You are missing what I just said... madinmaryland Jan 2014 #50

I'm not missing it, you are just misusing premeditated. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #52

Carrying a gun is a plan of sorts. A bad plan, but a plan. kwassa Jan 2014 #115

I legally carry a concealed weapon but I have absolutely no intent to use it ... spin Jan 2014 #69

But you intend to use the weapon and take the law into your own hands, based on what you madinmaryland Jan 2014 #74

He intends to interrogate, arrest, set bail, try, incarcerate, and parole someone? X_Digger Jan 2014 #123

So if a man attacks me with a machette, I should doubt that he is actually trying to injure ... spin Jan 2014 #146

If it is a walker, make sure you blow out its brains, but the noise is likely to attract Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #155

You must watch far more Zombie movies than I do. ... spin Jan 2014 #171

this makes no sense to me sorry Egnever Jan 2014 #186

Reread my post. You will find that I said... spin Jan 2014 #187

yes but if you are wrong Egnever Jan 2014 #188

Basically I agree. ... spin Jan 2014 #189

the article says he left the theater and came back in snooper2 Jan 2014 #163

He left. Then he came back and killed the guy. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #102

yeah that is a new development since the story originally broke. Seems like intent to me. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #156

presumably he would have had to have planned to do it. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #22

I just don't get it. How much premeditation is required to be premeditation? nt valerief Jan 2014 #25

More than getting pissed off and firing your weapon. Barack_America Jan 2014 #28

Actually that is not true. whopis01 Jan 2014 #86

Thank you for the truth about premeditation Beaverhausen Jan 2014 #116

So he could have premeditated right before he took out his gun, which was my point. valerief Jan 2014 #148

I wouldn't be so sure whopis01 Jan 2014 #162

I hope he doesn't get away with it. I'm SOOOOO sick of these twisted bullies. nt valerief Jan 2014 #182

He was denied bond whopis01 Jan 2014 #184

I am not a lawyer, but "a plan" and evidence thereof would be my guess. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #30

different mens rea (frame of mind) arely staircase Jan 2014 #91

Good thing the good guy had a gun or that texting might have escalated into something dangerous. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #35

+ One Million Trajan Jan 2014 #70

Just like folks become too old to drive, some gunners become too old to tote. Hoyt Jan 2014 #37

Expect more of this as concealed carry takes hold across the country damnedifIknow Jan 2014 #39

Actually, this has nothing to do with the state's concealed carry law. Glassunion Jan 2014 #57

Right. You can't see a likely increase in incidents like that as concealed carry proliferates? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #75

No. What I am saying is this particular incident has nothing to do with it. Glassunion Jan 2014 #87

Gunner world is a strange place. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #93

I was directly mentioning this particular incident. Glassunion Jan 2014 #113

Over 1,000,000 Florida residents currently have a valid concealed weapons permit. ... spin Jan 2014 #185

As long as he meets the requirements such as having an photo I.D.... Kaleva Jan 2014 #120

where have you been? FatBuddy Jan 2014 #150

Did it look something like this? backscatter712 Jan 2014 #40

People with poor impulse control should not have firearms. Bettie Jan 2014 #42

Reality is "I was pissed and I wasn't gonna let the texting people disobey without consequence. I Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #76

Yep. Says a lot about the kind of people who are cops these days Bettie Jan 2014 #80

Nobody should! gopiscrap Jan 2014 #129

I wonder how many bodies he racked up while he was a cop. Incitatus Jan 2014 #45

I'm sure his years of experience will help him craft his statements. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2014 #51

texting , talking on your cell phone can be real annoying firsttimer Jan 2014 #48

lmfao Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #81

We'll mark that as one vote in favor of murder because phone! DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #99

Reeves should be arrested n/t malaise Jan 2014 #53

Is the key point that this occurred during a trailer? goldent Jan 2014 #54

He's probably not going to like jail much. Police usually don't. nt MADem Jan 2014 #55

Assuming he even gets convicted Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #61

Yeah...Florida. They really do manage to make themselves look pretty bad in the papers, don't MADem Jan 2014 #64

Not really. Of course to really understand the incidents such as this that involve ... spin Jan 2014 #172

I'm not mollified by those "small" numbers, though--a guy name Zimmerman, who murdered a young teen MADem Jan 2014 #173

It is quite possible that Zimmerman chased Martin and confronted him ... spin Jan 2014 #175

Well, I think Zimmerman was a murderer, and your views on Al Gore are bizarre. MADem Jan 2014 #176

I never said that Bush the Younger was a good President. ... spin Jan 2014 #180

That whole bore-Gore-wooden thing was rightwing spin. He was didactic and ponderous MADem Jan 2014 #181

I have heard that Al Gore was far more likable in private... spin Jan 2014 #183

I read popcorn was thrown then the gun was fired. meadowlark5 Jan 2014 #135

An armed society is a polite society. Arger68 Jan 2014 #58

If it takes the threat of gun violence to ensure they're polite, I suspect they're just assholes. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #79

intriguingly, Heinlein's thesis was that the slow-draws and rude people would be weeded out through MisterP Jan 2014 #147

Did I just read elsewhere that the couple had a three year old child with them malaise Jan 2014 #59

Dementia? gaspee Jan 2014 #62

Absolutely, that combativeness, hostility and paranoia, sometimes leading to violence, enough Jan 2014 #77

If only that texter had been armed with a grenade or something. /nt Marr Jan 2014 #66

or manners. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #73

bingo.... Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #78

violence is always the worst alternative.... Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #85

I havr lived in the bad parts of Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #84

+100. n/t Skip Intro Jan 2014 #106

well, not everyone can display the etiquette and class NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #117

+ uppityperson Jan 2014 #122

Yes, murder is always the appropriate response to bad manners. jeff47 Jan 2014 #118

actually, that's opposite of what i said Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #125

"If only the texter had been armed with (...) manners" jeff47 Jan 2014 #137

yes. and in your world that is the same thing as condoning murder. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #138

Well you are welcome to explain why bad manners justify the shooting. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #139

Absolutely no one said anything about this or any shooting being justified. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #164

Is this post an example of those "old fashioned manners" making the world a better place? nt uppityperson Jan 2014 #168

yes. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #169

So apparently I have to quote you again. jeff47 Jan 2014 #170

Absolutely no one said anything about this or any shooting being justified. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #174

Texting before a movie starts is usually considered okay Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #119

Pretty much spot on. Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #161

A couple of theaters here in my area have banned the use of cell phones once you enter ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #165

How ill-mannered is it to shoot someone in the chest? Marr Jan 2014 #140

Someone sending a text before the movie starts wouldn't bother me. MADem Jan 2014 #177

What a responsible law-abiding gun owner. eom TransitJohn Jan 2014 #67

That seems like a reasonable punishment for someone texting in a movie theater. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #82

I've been in that theater mcar Jan 2014 #83

I guess what I don't get is how did texting bother him. He wasn't talking on the phone RKP5637 Jan 2014 #89

Oh, SHIT!! Not the fucking PREVIEWS!! Systematic Chaos Jan 2014 #90

Hmm phil89 Jan 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #104

So...... AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #107

I see people texting all the time before movies start Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #110

I make my kids stop when the previews start. The light is distracting to people and just rude to me. Logical Jan 2014 #130

I don't text during previews but it's one of those gray areas Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #141

The "texting" part is just a sideshow Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #178

Kinda like the DU jury system... Skip Intro Jan 2014 #111

WOOT WOOT is good its stand your ground,,,, Historic NY Jan 2014 #112

During the trailer? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #114

A Discussion of Proper Phone Etiquette During A Movie Screening. Link Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #124

wow, gun nuts are so far gone they even defend this POS quinnox Jan 2014 #128

It's really scary and profoundly sad Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #132

When you put guns over everything, including innocent lives, its either evil or a screw loose quinnox Jan 2014 #133

Nope... Agschmid Jan 2014 #143

I can understand his frustration, but murder???? Beacool Jan 2014 #134

I think the headline is being a bit facile. X_Digger Jan 2014 #136

From another article is said Reeves went to talk to management Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #142

I don't see why texting would be annoying - it's silent, and the light is small? El_Johns Jan 2014 #145

Here is a photo of the couple that was shot Quixote1818 Jan 2014 #144

Authoritarian doesn't get his way, so he kills problem. Rex Jan 2014 #149

Someone carrying a gun subconsciously expects everyone else to be armed also Fumesucker Jan 2014 #151

Strange. I carry on a regular basis and I don't walk around thinking that everybody ... spin Jan 2014 #190

What part of "subconsciously" did you fail to understand? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #192

Interesting comment. I do use my subconscious mind in a manner that might surprise you. ... spin Jan 2014 #193

Why did you think it necessary to get LiberalElite Jul 2014 #194

it's obvious that you have a far different mindset than I do. ... spin Jul 2014 #195

Hate this story BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #152

The whole thing sucks. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #166

Once again many here are basing their opinion on if the shooter is guilty or innocent on ... spin Jan 2014 #191

If only the texter had a gun, nobody would had got shot! B Calm Jan 2014 #154

and the silicone chip inside his head gets switched to overload BootinUp Jan 2014 #158

This is clear cut Stand Your Ground case Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #159

Careful, the political correctness police and mind readers B Calm Jan 2014 #160

Not just GD but all of DU. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #179

Just another justified cop killing. bobGandolf Jan 2014 #167