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nyquil_man

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105. I would think a true libertarian would occupy the lower right quadrant,

Tue Jan 14, 2014, 07:37 PM

Jan 2014

as this would indicate opposition to both personal and corporate regulation.

I would argue further that very few true libertarians exist.

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Libertarians think Fiction is Reality. [View all] riqster Jan 2014 OP

recommend phantom power Jan 2014 #1

Thanks. riqster Jan 2014 #2

what interests me (in a sad way) is that in spite of all these sort of examples... phantom power Jan 2014 #3

The libertarians have taken control of the marketplace of ideas over the past decades riqster Jan 2014 #5

And they control all the media... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #30

Liberals have been pandering to Libertarians for votes. jeff47 Jan 2014 #6

S'truth. riqster Jan 2014 #7

Well, that is not really the Liberals. bvar22 Jan 2014 #45

Relative liberal. They're liberal compared to the Republicans. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #46

that's funny I have also seen those on the very far left agree with the Libertarians too! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #53

Agree with economic libertarians on what exactly? TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #70

Libertarians...I didn't couch it in "economics" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #75

We are discussing economics otherwise we enter silly season TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #97

but "I" didn't say that did I? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #100

No, it seemed to be implied otherwise I have trouble seeing what point was being made TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #102

they most certainly HAVE... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #103

You mean they disagreed with Dick Cheney and the people like him. JoeyT Jan 2014 #83

K&R n/t Feral Child Jan 2014 #4

The delusional Libertarian inmates are really running the asylum meow2u3 Jan 2014 #8

Rubber room and a straitjacket. riqster Jan 2014 #9

Libertarianism is just another crazy cult. hunter Jan 2014 #10

The Libertarians I know are all in favor of throwing the management of the West Fertilizer Company AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #11

but that's facile of them, because corporations specifically protect individuals against that. phantom power Jan 2014 #20

True, there are numerous flaws in their position, quite beyond simple 'how much money CAN you pay AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #22

AFTER the fact, sure Scootaloo Jan 2014 #49

I don't advocate violence, but it is fun to see them scramble when you AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #50

Sure they do. They flap their arms and squawk that you're a "statist" Scootaloo Jan 2014 #51

I have, indeed, witnessed this behavior. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #52

The courtship dance of the Friedman's Least Boobie Scootaloo Jan 2014 #55

You said two words the can't argue with safeinOhio Jan 2014 #12

What's funny is when you pin down a Libertarian they say a LAWSUIT keeps companies in line... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #13

Nailed it. ctsnowman Jan 2014 #14

Your relatives are supposed to get rich.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #16

No wonder. Because they've legislated individual rights vs. corporations to 'frivolous' complaints freshwest Jan 2014 #38

They also believe that a lawsuit is a swift and sure cure for injuries Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2014 #28

This.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #37

Very said! PLEASE make a separate OP of this for moe exposure! n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #39

This should SO be an OP. Just sayin'. riqster Jan 2014 #41

Judges can be objective treestar Jan 2014 #56

They talk about the rules of the market as if they're laws. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #59

Where? treestar Jan 2014 #65

That's another thing, who is going to ENFORCE those contracts? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #66

In the libertarians' minds treestar Jan 2014 #67

They want a world driven by greed..... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #98

Her 19th century was Czarist Russia. Not a great time for liberty. riqster Jan 2014 #72

She wanted the Horatio Alger era treestar Jan 2014 #84

They call it the non-aggression principle. joshcryer Jan 2014 #87

Followed by the classic, "Whatever they're paying you, I'll double it." Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #99

indeed joshcryer Jan 2014 #104

What do you mean "fiction"??!!! bvar22 Jan 2014 #15

P T Barnum was right. riqster Jan 2014 #17

He'll cash in on the suckers sending him money in small amounts. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #18

Oh my GODDESS! redqueen Jan 2014 #19

I just can't WAIT to go down there and start... bvar22 Jan 2014 #27

You can add in the 4/23/2005 BP Texas City refinery blast that killed 15 b/c BP budgeted the price Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #21

All good examples. And it's world wide. riqster Jan 2014 #23

You bet your ass! People have no idea what that kind of money, coupled with amoral business Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #31

Well, I'm thinking the libertarians think that there EC Jan 2014 #24

That would be some wack reasoning, riqster Jan 2014 #25

I had a libertarian aquiantance say there should be a law. EC Jan 2014 #26

Their 'don't tax me bro' eliminated regulatory oversight, to destroy civil society and devolve to: freshwest Jan 2014 #44

It's not just a closed circle, it's unsustainable. riqster Jan 2014 #47

Ah, but their core group survives. That's the fact we ignore at our peril. It works for plutocrats. freshwest Jan 2014 #48

Survives, but at a huge loss. Nt riqster Jan 2014 #54

Isn't that how the 1% wants it, though? Not arguing it is wrong... but we must see what it is. BTW, freshwest Jan 2014 #62

Thanks :-) riqster Jan 2014 #69

The members of Rush are libertarians? awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #29

Oh yeah. Ayn Rand nuts, the lot of them. riqster Jan 2014 #32

Did not know that... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #34

Not exactly stratnav71 Jan 2014 #79

Fascinating. riqster Jan 2014 #80

DU is more libertarian than either Texas or West Virginia Fumesucker Jan 2014 #33

You are expecting people to distinguish between left-libertarianism the political orientation, Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #61

Hey, you understand what I'm saying, that's a start Fumesucker Jan 2014 #63

I'm Group W Bench Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #64

Move over. There are pencils on the bench to played with. riqster Jan 2014 #73

I would think a true libertarian would occupy the lower right quadrant, nyquil_man Jan 2014 #105

Make this go viral. Most conservative and some other groups believe this fiction. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #35

And let's not forget... WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2014 #36

All true. riqster Jan 2014 #40

Which regulation proposals were defeated by the Libertarians? One_Life_To_Give Jan 2014 #42

Bulls$1t! "libertarian" and "think" are mutually exclusive! dorkzilla Jan 2014 #43

I agree. Libertarianism is utter bullshit. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #57

Rand never said a good thing about Libertarians in her whole life MNBrewer Jan 2014 #58

Thom Hartmann just pointed out that this was a perfect Cleita Jan 2014 #60

I read the subject line quickly and thought it said, "Librarians think fiction is reality." valerief Jan 2014 #68

I once dated a librarian. riqster Jan 2014 #74

Cue the "But you just don't *understand* REAL Libertarianism!" crowd in 3...2.... n/t TygrBright Jan 2014 #71

When I say things like this, my libertarian friends tell me proReality Jan 2014 #76

Send them to the blog. Then watch them turn purple. riqster Jan 2014 #82

Worse, the economic Libertarians seem pretty convinced that reality is fictitious as well. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #77

You didn't even mention bringing back the gold standard. SansACause Jan 2014 #78

Damn, there are so many libertarian fables. riqster Jan 2014 #81

Libertarian owned businesses are largely a disaster waiting to happen. JoeyT Jan 2014 #85

K&R cranky! Cha Jan 2014 #86

RUSH (the rock band) is NOT Libertarian! nikto Jan 2014 #88

Thanks, you are the second person to point that out. riqster Jan 2014 #89

Government was not imposed on us quaker bill Jan 2014 #90

Their founding document gwheezie Jan 2014 #91

That's about right. riqster Jan 2014 #92

pure logic gold heaven05 Jan 2014 #93

Thanks for the kind words. riqster Jan 2014 #94

I have a libertarian FB friend crystal dawn Jan 2014 #95

My thoughts are with you. riqster Jan 2014 #96

Libertarianism is the dogma of unrealistically selfish assholes. nt MrScorpio Jan 2014 #101

True Fact: Libertarianism works only if practiced by ethical, progressive community activists. byronius Jan 2014 #106

Libertarianism: the philosophy of anti-government cynicism and "the world revolves around me". eom Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #107

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