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146. I grew up on a ranch, what exactly are you caling factory farms

Reply to athena (Reply #63)

Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:15 PM

Jan 2014

Are trying to say the last 90 days in a feedlot? Beef cattle are NOT factory farmed . That is pure bunk.

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PETA Protest Calls For Extinction Of Cattle [View all] Purveyor Jan 2014 OP

It is not warped logic. redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #1

Domesticated state is inherently unnatural? Xyzse Jan 2014 #6

They have killed pets. X_Digger Jan 2014 #10

Really? Xyzse Jan 2014 #11

Here's another good link.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #20

Cats and dogs eat meat gollygee Jan 2014 #17

No their issue with adopting out animals is that those poor animals would be exploited by their Vincardog Jan 2014 #61

My cat thinks that's funny gollygee Jan 2014 #113

Our Lords and Masters (our three rescue doxies) think the same thing. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #114

As I exist solely for the benefit of my cat master. Vincardog Jan 2014 #115

THat's the bullshit. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #58

Read your own link.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #62

Sorry, wrong link HERVEPA Jan 2014 #74

Same link, same quote. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #75

Please post what URL you are linking to HERVEPA Jan 2014 #80

See my other reply, I provided a screenshot. X_Digger Jan 2014 #82

That was not my link! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #76

Yes, it is.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #78

Sorry, didn't realizing you were doing a bullshit cherrypick HERVEPA Jan 2014 #83

A 'cherry pick'? Of the animals PETA took in, they killed 80% in 2010, and 95.9% in 2011. X_Digger Jan 2014 #85

Way to avoid mentioning you cherrypicked. I'm done with you. On ignore. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #87

Lol, you're pissed that you ignored the text of your own link?!? X_Digger Jan 2014 #91

Wow Springslips Jan 2014 #134

It did feel like... X_Digger Jan 2014 #135

Do you know what the hell cherrypicking means? HERVEPA Jan 2014 #147

What data was left out? (That's the basis for a cherrypicking claim.) n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #177

The rest of the whole friggin article HERVEPA Jan 2014 #178

What *data*? That's what cherrypicking means. X_Digger Jan 2014 #179

It could mean people ignoring evidence unfavorable to their argument, i.e. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #201

So because you can't prove xdigger wrong, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #93

Again bullshit HERVEPA Jan 2014 #111

Gunnery? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #136

Gunz on GD: It's ba-a-a-a-ack. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #168

I can prove xdigger wrong. yewberry Jan 2014 #150

I think I know why. flvegan Jan 2014 #151

So after your subthread proved XDigger correct, what is bullshit about post #10 again? snooper2 Jan 2014 #86

Cherry picked iformation. And time to trash this idiotic thread. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #148

This web site is run by a corporate whore. Archae Jan 2014 #69

And that has no bearing on what we were discussing. X_Digger Jan 2014 #73

News flash: all shelters either reject or kill animals. athena Jan 2014 #92

Has anyone claimed that some shelters aren't no-kill? X_Digger Jan 2014 #98

Oh, no, implying is so much more effective than making an outright claim! athena Jan 2014 #102

What you read into my post illuminates your apprehensions far more than you realize. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #108

Your source is a lobbying group for the meat, cigarette, alcohol & restaurant industries. yewberry Jan 2014 #142

Thank HERVEPA for corroboration in post #58 (wapo). n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #144

Uh, thank me for revealing Rick Berman. yewberry Jan 2014 #145

If a team scored 2 touchdowns a season, everyone would call them shitty. X_Digger Jan 2014 #176

Wow, totally changed your argument, didncha? yewberry Jan 2014 #202

Oh, did PETA throw her out, and I didn't hear about it? Silly me. X_Digger Jan 2014 #203

I objected to your posting lies yewberry Jan 2014 #205

Are the stats not accurate? Have anything to dispute them? X_Digger Jan 2014 #206

They want to end all pet ownership. redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #13

That's not true. athena Jan 2014 #96

Someone else posting something that proves themselves wrong.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #107

Yes. They want an end to the very concept of "pets". They also want kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #30

I don't think highly of them... Xyzse Jan 2014 #37

Probably the same as I do. Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #65

PETA's position is that an animal is better dead than a pet Drale Jan 2014 #94

Not true. athena Jan 2014 #97

Actually, not from what it showed on their site. Xyzse Jan 2014 #99

I think Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #170

Humans are domesticated. pnwmom Jan 2014 #14

I can agree with this. Xyzse Jan 2014 #15

I have to agree that humans are domesticated. redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #16

Yes gollygee Jan 2014 #18

Mine certainly owns me Aerows Jan 2014 #199

As a vegetarian, I sort of agree with PETA. RebelOne Jan 2014 #19

It's so much more popular on DU to attack PETA than the factory-farming industry! athena Jan 2014 #27

And PETA is against hunting, so, in essence, that makes them the enemy of hunters. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #29

I am 100% against hunting. RebelOne Jan 2014 #139

I don't hunt for trophy, I don't sport hunt, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #143

It's more popular because it's more fun jmowreader Jan 2014 #57

Really? athena Jan 2014 #60

Back in the early 80's, I donated to PETA Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #95

I don't think this is all that whacko NoOneMan Jan 2014 #163

I disagree Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #169

"They think that the domesticated state is inherently unnatural" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #200

My concern for cattle is that they may have lost the ability to survive in the wild. alfredo Jan 2017 #208

A few years ago, they were pushing for breast milk ice cream. badtoworse Jan 2014 #2

Breast milk tastes great. I bet it would make great ice cream due to fat content. alfredo Jan 2017 #209

They want dogs and cats extinct also get the red out Jan 2014 #3

Oh carp. I was just mentioning it earlier, and didn't see this post. Xyzse Jan 2014 #8

I hate PETA because they despise what I love, pets. get the red out Jan 2014 #23

Actually reading what they have said in regards to Pets... Xyzse Jan 2014 #41

What they do get the red out Jan 2014 #46

Right.. the difference between what they *say* and what they *do* is very telling. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #48

I've been wary of them for a while... Xyzse Jan 2014 #54

Here is something worth reading. athena Jan 2014 #71

Thanks... Checking it out Xyzse Jan 2014 #72

The way I look at it get the red out Jan 2014 #77

Well yeah. Xyzse Jan 2014 #79

That's wonderful get the red out Jan 2014 #81

Peta's a bunch of self-serving asshats..HOWEVER... joeybee12 Jan 2014 #4

Beef Magazine? Lol, what a joke. These idiots can barely knock down straw men. Vattel Jan 2014 #5

What a bunch of extremist assbites. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #7

No pie. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #9

My bad, I'll edit to say holes. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #12

My pleasure. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #25

peta is looking out for peta first seveneyes Jan 2014 #21

but I love cows, can't we just worship them like in India? Thorin_Oakenshield Jan 2014 #22

PETA is the enemy (and factory farming is our friend)! athena Jan 2014 #24

I don't eat any store bought meat or eggs, and we pretty much Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #26

I'm 99.9% vegan these days and I happen to loathe PETA and everything they stand for. kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #32

I happen to disagree with you. athena Jan 2014 #44

Stop making sense! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #84

You hate everything they stand for? Beaverhausen Jan 2014 #117

You would think we could all agree that reducing suffering and increasing enjoyment are worthy goals Vattel Jan 2014 #38

I'd like to think that more people would care athena Jan 2014 #63

I grew up on a ranch, what exactly are you caling factory farms Drahthaardogs Jan 2014 #146

Well if it's all black and white get the red out Jan 2014 #49

Your claim is inaccurate. athena Jan 2014 #55

Can't they both be bad? Renew Deal Jan 2014 #207

PETA should call them high-capacity assault cows -- and hand-wringers will ban them quickly. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #28

The Pioneer Woman Cooks Prime Rib OmahaBlueDog Jan 2014 #31

Thanks for posting. I cooked my first prime-rib at Christmas following a recipe to is quite Purveyor Jan 2014 #40

A good digital thermometer is a must! OmahaBlueDog Jan 2014 #56

While I don't share PETAs view on this.... NCTraveler Jan 2014 #33

Beef Magazine huh? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #34

Beef Magazine athena Jan 2014 #66

Well.. Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #67

lets start posting Monsanto opinion pieces... G_j Jan 2014 #196

I think this falls under cutting off your nose to spite your face. Dollface Jan 2014 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #36

It's not PETA that has no clue. athena Jan 2014 #42

PETA is a joke at this point. Embarrassing to liberals. nt Logical Jan 2014 #39

Liberals are the ones that embarrass liberals athena Jan 2014 #43

They are a parody at this point! nt Logical Jan 2014 #45

Threads like this help PETA spread the word. athena Jan 2014 #47

+1 donor, -5 fence sitters. X_Digger Jan 2014 #52

PETA is an example of weak-minded and weak-kneed do-gooderism Adrahil Jan 2014 #120

Talk about soft-minded mush. Vattel Jan 2014 #171

PETA is a front group to make real humane organizations look bad greatlaurel Jan 2014 #50

That is total bullshit. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #59

Not to sound like I'm defending them, but there is not one PETA quote in that article. arcane1 Jan 2014 #51

On the whole, this is less preposterous and farcical than most of their efforts. Orrex Jan 2014 #53

I agree 100%. Their lives are sh*t anyway. Peregrine Took Jan 2014 #64

Factory farmed animals aren't even natural. athena Jan 2014 #68

What happened to the cattle in the Dakotas was this; Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #105

Can we at least breed back the auroch first? NickB79 Jan 2014 #70

To get rid of our present cattle, turn them loose. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #181

Fuck with my cheeseburger and see a whole new side of me. Rex Jan 2014 #88

What a kind-hearted reply! athena Jan 2014 #100

Yep, I try not to think about all the dead stuff on my plate, but no doubt Rex Jan 2014 #101

I don't eat anything that's dead. athena Jan 2014 #104

Hey! Good for you! I choose to eat meat. Adrahil Jan 2014 #118

Choosing to support the factory-farming industry does not make you a part of the ecosystem. athena Jan 2014 #122

So I have to go full vegan? Adrahil Jan 2014 #125

Satisfy hand-wringers? athena Jan 2014 #129

So those plants are still alive when you cook and eat them? n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #140

Whether or not he/she knows, they are indeed alive when cooked or eaten. jeff47 Jan 2014 #154

Plants feel pain? Are you SURE? yewberry Jan 2014 #160

Plants react to damage with a cascade of chemicals and hormones jeff47 Jan 2014 #162

My car reacts with a cascade of chemicals when you cut the brake line Orrex Jan 2014 #180

No, your car doesn't. jeff47 Jan 2014 #182

I have self-sealing tires. Do they know when they've been injured? Orrex Jan 2014 #185

Again, the chemicals are not causing a change in behavior. jeff47 Jan 2014 #187

No, I'm arging that a biological response does not automatically indicate awareness Orrex Jan 2014 #188

We don't know what "awareness" is. jeff47 Jan 2014 #190

Fair enough. Orrex Jan 2014 #191

Actually, I'm arguing veganism is worse. jeff47 Jan 2014 #192

First off that video comes off as Fox News or Glen Beck Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #89

We aren't photosynthetic jeff47 Jan 2014 #158

Actually no I haven't not the biggest fan of corn. I'm well aware that humans aren't photosynthetic Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #172

Corn was just one example. jeff47 Jan 2014 #184

I do know bananas are one of those things and I do love them Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #189

Cows are people too! ileus Jan 2014 #90

Beef Magazine v PETA handmade34 Jan 2014 #103

Cows to PETA - come and get me punk Baclava Jan 2014 #106

Wow those are some long horns Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #109

Yum MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #110

Humans are weak soft insignificant maggots that our children will crush under their hooves Baclava Jan 2014 #112

Until then MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #121

that was in my best Morbo voice Baclava Jan 2014 #128

LOL, good job then MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #130

I wonder what it's like CFLDem Jan 2014 #116

It's so much better to hand over your hard-earned cash to the beef industry instead. athena Jan 2014 #123

Well duh CFLDem Jan 2014 #124

The factory farm industry brings you joy? athena Jan 2014 #126

No CFLDem Jan 2014 #127

I stand by my statement. athena Jan 2014 #131

Well I think it's heartless to not eat the cow. CFLDem Jan 2014 #132

I hand as little money as possible to any food corporation - raven mad Jan 2014 #167

Don't fuck with my cheese and ice cream, PETA MrScorpio Jan 2014 #119

PETA doesn't care what you eat. athena Jan 2014 #133

I almost responded to 1, 2, 3...countless folks in this thread flvegan Jan 2014 #137

PETA gets attention, as does the plight of amimals, by extension. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #159

PETA a some scary people. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #138

Why not just link to Breitbart? yewberry Jan 2014 #141

beefmagazine.com - ? Gee, that's an unbiased source... Skip Intro Jan 2014 #149

If you know of an 'unbiased source'...let me know as I've not found one yet. eom Purveyor Jan 2014 #152

I suppose they are rare. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #156

If I have to choose between PETA and Beef magazine… quinnox Jan 2014 #153

Awesome. Why is that? flvegan Jan 2014 #155

I'm not a fan quinnox Jan 2014 #157

So then, ego. Cool. flvegan Jan 2014 #161

Yep.. Animals are tasty. Wig eat them Adrahil Jan 2014 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author El_Johns Jan 2014 #164

seriously? you don't understand? veganlush Jan 2014 #165

Wrong? Based on what? Adrahil Jan 2014 #174

future generations will look back veganlush Jan 2014 #193

Maybe some day. But that day is not today. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #195

I have no love for PETAs tactics (even though I am for animal rights) cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #166

4 simple letters RandiFan1290 Jan 2014 #175

So they want to save them...by killing them? Arkana Jan 2014 #183

Wouldn't the cattle be happier if the humans chose extinction? Coyotl Jan 2014 #186

Beef Magazine G_j Jan 2014 #194

That's definitely ethical treatment of animals... Fearless Jan 2014 #197

Factory farming sucks. Period. Glassunion Jan 2014 #198

I think humans beings suffer and cause plenty of suffering also. What to do...what to do??? lumpy Jan 2014 #204