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kenny blankenship

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20. Their political leadership keeps filling the ball with lead and slathering it with butter.

Fri Mar 16, 2012, 09:15 PM

Mar 2012

Afghanistan has been going on for how long now? Ten going on eleven years? That's nine too many. The only way to win in Afghanistan is never to go in, but if you find yourself there through some stupid accident LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. Now to be fair, for 8 of those 11 years we had a total dumbass for President...

But as of three years ago, we have no excuse.

We should be three years gone from that fucking place, if not more. That little surprises like the Koran burning incidents, the corpse desecrating incidents, thrill killing sprees, and the family executions keep happening should be no surprise at all. These are all implied in the decision to go to war and then squat on an alien people for a protracted period. President Obama may have no prior military experience to inform him of these pitfalls, but he can fucking READ and REMEMBER at least as well as I can. He had the example of our descent into barbarism in Indochina and Mesopotamia right in front of him, and he chose BADLY anyway.

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Anybody here ever served 4 combat tours? I guess I was lucky. [View all] 11 Bravo Mar 2012 OP

The military keeps dropping the ball with these guys... cynatnite Mar 2012 #1

2 in Iraq, likely some in Afghanistan to come. USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #3

Our cousin has done 2 tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan... cynatnite Mar 2012 #5

That's horrible! Texasgal Mar 2012 #11

Deployments have been reduced a LOT USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #15

How many deployments Texasgal Mar 2012 #21

Not sure, but we had far more troops then. nt USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #25

Vietnam deployments were limited to 12 or 13 months depending on branch alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #27

Thank you Texasgal Mar 2012 #32

Two reasons: conscription and conscription alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #48

In Nam the Army grunts did a 12 month tour. If we were willing to extend 6 months ... 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #29

Their political leadership keeps filling the ball with lead and slathering it with butter. kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #20

I understand his motivations for staying there... cynatnite Mar 2012 #26

My grand daughter did. 3 in Iraq, one of which was extended and 1 in Afghanistan. appleannie1 Mar 2012 #2

Give her a big hug from me, and please tell her Welcome Home! 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #4

Welcome her home nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #7

No and just shootouts with the cartels nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #6

We veterans know how the military works atreides1 Mar 2012 #39

One thing is the military nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #41

I can't even imagine what it was like for SSGT Bales. Suich Mar 2012 #8

I did not know about the previous injuries... cynatnite Mar 2012 #10

they redeployed my son after a 6 month stint at langstuhl w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #17

What??? Do you mean he just spent 6 months Suich Mar 2012 #22

Don't need to convince me of anything NNN0LHI Mar 2012 #9

I think it's very probable he wasn't of sound mind Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #12

I did 13 months... that was puh-lenty! Bigmack Mar 2012 #13

My brother in law is now on his 2nd tour.. glowing Mar 2012 #14

My kid's on his way back to Afghanistan w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #16

K&R SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #18

Thirteen months in country donco Mar 2012 #19

War is evil. It should be the very last resort for any civilized country. But for the US sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #23

Good points, Sabrina...Everyone is losing in this..except the Military Complex, Contractors, Weapons KoKo Mar 2012 #43

One of my good friends did three tours in Iraq. Initech Mar 2012 #24

Me just ONE year, *and* HEY, I had R&R in Vung Tau!1 Props!1 n/t UTUSN Mar 2012 #28

The son of a good friend put a gun in his mouth last 4th of July. mn9driver Mar 2012 #30

Iw ill give him the same benefit if the doubt as an Iraqi or an Afghanistani. Arctic Dave Mar 2012 #31

Spam deleted by one_voice (MIR Team) fdherh Mar 2012 #33

I wonder if he was caught up KT2000 Mar 2012 #34

My son grew up with two young men who had multiple tours. One still struggles. nolabear Mar 2012 #35

My dad was in Nam mackattack Mar 2012 #36

Combat is outside the realm of normal human activity The Wizard Mar 2012 #37

A Shau: Lam Son 719 and Texas Star ... Welcome home, brother. 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #44

I feel sorry for him. He obviously has been through hell. Avalux Mar 2012 #38

You're probably right but there are nine children to bury first. rug Mar 2012 #40

That's the thing nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #42

Slaughtering innocent women and children GUARANTEES one is "not of sound mind" cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #45

Suicide rate is higher than KIA; people take different paths; his went the wrong way. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #46

again Thank You fascisthunter Mar 2012 #47

No, thank god, not even one... but that was the first thing that grabbed my attention got root Mar 2012 #49

It's you, it's you, it's you I'm talkin' to Zorra Mar 2012 #50

When the massacre was first reported, I automatically assumed it was an 18/19/20-year-old kid bullwinkle428 Mar 2012 #51

3 tours & counting... cbrer Mar 2012 #52

K&R B Calm Mar 2012 #53