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X_Digger

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176. If a team scored 2 touchdowns a season, everyone would call them shitty.

Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:02 AM

Jan 2014

I've worked with multiple rescue groups, if one of them had a 96% kill rate, they'd be investigated by the state.

Let's look at Ingrid's own words:

"Our goal is total animal liberation, and the day when everyone believes that animals are not ours to eat, not ours to wear, not ours to experiment {sic}, and not ours for entertainment or any other exploitave {sic} purpose."

See starting at 12:09 in the youtube link I posted above.

"Total Animal Liberation"? There's no 'except for pets we like' or 'except for service dogs for the blind', etc. No asterisks 'round here.

If PETA had their way, no animal would be used in any way- no way to test new antibiotics, no way to test cancer treatment drugs, no new vaccines, no new treatments for AIDS.

No service dogs for the blind, no cadaver dogs to find mass graves, no rescue dogs to find buried victims after a quake, no scent hounds to find missing kids in the woods.

Fee free to hand wave away any uncomfortable results, but that is "Total Animal Liberation".

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PETA Protest Calls For Extinction Of Cattle [View all] Purveyor Jan 2014 OP

It is not warped logic. redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #1

Domesticated state is inherently unnatural? Xyzse Jan 2014 #6

They have killed pets. X_Digger Jan 2014 #10

Really? Xyzse Jan 2014 #11

Here's another good link.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #20

Cats and dogs eat meat gollygee Jan 2014 #17

No their issue with adopting out animals is that those poor animals would be exploited by their Vincardog Jan 2014 #61

My cat thinks that's funny gollygee Jan 2014 #113

Our Lords and Masters (our three rescue doxies) think the same thing. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #114

As I exist solely for the benefit of my cat master. Vincardog Jan 2014 #115

THat's the bullshit. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #58

Read your own link.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #62

Sorry, wrong link HERVEPA Jan 2014 #74

Same link, same quote. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #75

Please post what URL you are linking to HERVEPA Jan 2014 #80

See my other reply, I provided a screenshot. X_Digger Jan 2014 #82

That was not my link! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #76

Yes, it is.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #78

Sorry, didn't realizing you were doing a bullshit cherrypick HERVEPA Jan 2014 #83

A 'cherry pick'? Of the animals PETA took in, they killed 80% in 2010, and 95.9% in 2011. X_Digger Jan 2014 #85

Way to avoid mentioning you cherrypicked. I'm done with you. On ignore. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #87

Lol, you're pissed that you ignored the text of your own link?!? X_Digger Jan 2014 #91

Wow Springslips Jan 2014 #134

It did feel like... X_Digger Jan 2014 #135

Do you know what the hell cherrypicking means? HERVEPA Jan 2014 #147

What data was left out? (That's the basis for a cherrypicking claim.) n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #177

The rest of the whole friggin article HERVEPA Jan 2014 #178

What *data*? That's what cherrypicking means. X_Digger Jan 2014 #179

It could mean people ignoring evidence unfavorable to their argument, i.e. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #201

So because you can't prove xdigger wrong, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #93

Again bullshit HERVEPA Jan 2014 #111

Gunnery? Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #136

Gunz on GD: It's ba-a-a-a-ack. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #168

I can prove xdigger wrong. yewberry Jan 2014 #150

I think I know why. flvegan Jan 2014 #151

So after your subthread proved XDigger correct, what is bullshit about post #10 again? snooper2 Jan 2014 #86

Cherry picked iformation. And time to trash this idiotic thread. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #148

This web site is run by a corporate whore. Archae Jan 2014 #69

And that has no bearing on what we were discussing. X_Digger Jan 2014 #73

News flash: all shelters either reject or kill animals. athena Jan 2014 #92

Has anyone claimed that some shelters aren't no-kill? X_Digger Jan 2014 #98

Oh, no, implying is so much more effective than making an outright claim! athena Jan 2014 #102

What you read into my post illuminates your apprehensions far more than you realize. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #108

Your source is a lobbying group for the meat, cigarette, alcohol & restaurant industries. yewberry Jan 2014 #142

Thank HERVEPA for corroboration in post #58 (wapo). n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #144

Uh, thank me for revealing Rick Berman. yewberry Jan 2014 #145

If a team scored 2 touchdowns a season, everyone would call them shitty. X_Digger Jan 2014 #176

Wow, totally changed your argument, didncha? yewberry Jan 2014 #202

Oh, did PETA throw her out, and I didn't hear about it? Silly me. X_Digger Jan 2014 #203

I objected to your posting lies yewberry Jan 2014 #205

Are the stats not accurate? Have anything to dispute them? X_Digger Jan 2014 #206

They want to end all pet ownership. redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #13

That's not true. athena Jan 2014 #96

Someone else posting something that proves themselves wrong.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #107

Yes. They want an end to the very concept of "pets". They also want kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #30

I don't think highly of them... Xyzse Jan 2014 #37

Probably the same as I do. Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #65

PETA's position is that an animal is better dead than a pet Drale Jan 2014 #94

Not true. athena Jan 2014 #97

Actually, not from what it showed on their site. Xyzse Jan 2014 #99

I think Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #170

Humans are domesticated. pnwmom Jan 2014 #14

I can agree with this. Xyzse Jan 2014 #15

I have to agree that humans are domesticated. redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #16

Yes gollygee Jan 2014 #18

Mine certainly owns me Aerows Jan 2014 #199

As a vegetarian, I sort of agree with PETA. RebelOne Jan 2014 #19

It's so much more popular on DU to attack PETA than the factory-farming industry! athena Jan 2014 #27

And PETA is against hunting, so, in essence, that makes them the enemy of hunters. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #29

I am 100% against hunting. RebelOne Jan 2014 #139

I don't hunt for trophy, I don't sport hunt, Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #143

It's more popular because it's more fun jmowreader Jan 2014 #57

Really? athena Jan 2014 #60

Back in the early 80's, I donated to PETA Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #95

I don't think this is all that whacko NoOneMan Jan 2014 #163

I disagree Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #169

"They think that the domesticated state is inherently unnatural" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #200

My concern for cattle is that they may have lost the ability to survive in the wild. alfredo Jan 2017 #208

A few years ago, they were pushing for breast milk ice cream. badtoworse Jan 2014 #2

Breast milk tastes great. I bet it would make great ice cream due to fat content. alfredo Jan 2017 #209

They want dogs and cats extinct also get the red out Jan 2014 #3

Oh carp. I was just mentioning it earlier, and didn't see this post. Xyzse Jan 2014 #8

I hate PETA because they despise what I love, pets. get the red out Jan 2014 #23

Actually reading what they have said in regards to Pets... Xyzse Jan 2014 #41

What they do get the red out Jan 2014 #46

Right.. the difference between what they *say* and what they *do* is very telling. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #48

I've been wary of them for a while... Xyzse Jan 2014 #54

Here is something worth reading. athena Jan 2014 #71

Thanks... Checking it out Xyzse Jan 2014 #72

The way I look at it get the red out Jan 2014 #77

Well yeah. Xyzse Jan 2014 #79

That's wonderful get the red out Jan 2014 #81

Peta's a bunch of self-serving asshats..HOWEVER... joeybee12 Jan 2014 #4

Beef Magazine? Lol, what a joke. These idiots can barely knock down straw men. Vattel Jan 2014 #5

What a bunch of extremist assbites. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #7

No pie. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #9

My bad, I'll edit to say holes. Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #12

My pleasure. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #25

peta is looking out for peta first seveneyes Jan 2014 #21

but I love cows, can't we just worship them like in India? Thorin_Oakenshield Jan 2014 #22

PETA is the enemy (and factory farming is our friend)! athena Jan 2014 #24

I don't eat any store bought meat or eggs, and we pretty much Ranchemp. Jan 2014 #26

I'm 99.9% vegan these days and I happen to loathe PETA and everything they stand for. kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #32

I happen to disagree with you. athena Jan 2014 #44

Stop making sense! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #84

You hate everything they stand for? Beaverhausen Jan 2014 #117

You would think we could all agree that reducing suffering and increasing enjoyment are worthy goals Vattel Jan 2014 #38

I'd like to think that more people would care athena Jan 2014 #63

I grew up on a ranch, what exactly are you caling factory farms Drahthaardogs Jan 2014 #146

Well if it's all black and white get the red out Jan 2014 #49

Your claim is inaccurate. athena Jan 2014 #55

Can't they both be bad? Renew Deal Jan 2014 #207

PETA should call them high-capacity assault cows -- and hand-wringers will ban them quickly. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #28

The Pioneer Woman Cooks Prime Rib OmahaBlueDog Jan 2014 #31

Thanks for posting. I cooked my first prime-rib at Christmas following a recipe to is quite Purveyor Jan 2014 #40

A good digital thermometer is a must! OmahaBlueDog Jan 2014 #56

While I don't share PETAs view on this.... NCTraveler Jan 2014 #33

Beef Magazine huh? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #34

Beef Magazine athena Jan 2014 #66

Well.. Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #67

lets start posting Monsanto opinion pieces... G_j Jan 2014 #196

I think this falls under cutting off your nose to spite your face. Dollface Jan 2014 #35

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #36

It's not PETA that has no clue. athena Jan 2014 #42

PETA is a joke at this point. Embarrassing to liberals. nt Logical Jan 2014 #39

Liberals are the ones that embarrass liberals athena Jan 2014 #43

They are a parody at this point! nt Logical Jan 2014 #45

Threads like this help PETA spread the word. athena Jan 2014 #47

+1 donor, -5 fence sitters. X_Digger Jan 2014 #52

PETA is an example of weak-minded and weak-kneed do-gooderism Adrahil Jan 2014 #120

Talk about soft-minded mush. Vattel Jan 2014 #171

PETA is a front group to make real humane organizations look bad greatlaurel Jan 2014 #50

That is total bullshit. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #59

Not to sound like I'm defending them, but there is not one PETA quote in that article. arcane1 Jan 2014 #51

On the whole, this is less preposterous and farcical than most of their efforts. Orrex Jan 2014 #53

I agree 100%. Their lives are sh*t anyway. Peregrine Took Jan 2014 #64

Factory farmed animals aren't even natural. athena Jan 2014 #68

What happened to the cattle in the Dakotas was this; Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #105

Can we at least breed back the auroch first? NickB79 Jan 2014 #70

To get rid of our present cattle, turn them loose. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #181

Fuck with my cheeseburger and see a whole new side of me. Rex Jan 2014 #88

What a kind-hearted reply! athena Jan 2014 #100

Yep, I try not to think about all the dead stuff on my plate, but no doubt Rex Jan 2014 #101

I don't eat anything that's dead. athena Jan 2014 #104

Hey! Good for you! I choose to eat meat. Adrahil Jan 2014 #118

Choosing to support the factory-farming industry does not make you a part of the ecosystem. athena Jan 2014 #122

So I have to go full vegan? Adrahil Jan 2014 #125

Satisfy hand-wringers? athena Jan 2014 #129

So those plants are still alive when you cook and eat them? n/t oneshooter Jan 2014 #140

Whether or not he/she knows, they are indeed alive when cooked or eaten. jeff47 Jan 2014 #154

Plants feel pain? Are you SURE? yewberry Jan 2014 #160

Plants react to damage with a cascade of chemicals and hormones jeff47 Jan 2014 #162

My car reacts with a cascade of chemicals when you cut the brake line Orrex Jan 2014 #180

No, your car doesn't. jeff47 Jan 2014 #182

I have self-sealing tires. Do they know when they've been injured? Orrex Jan 2014 #185

Again, the chemicals are not causing a change in behavior. jeff47 Jan 2014 #187

No, I'm arging that a biological response does not automatically indicate awareness Orrex Jan 2014 #188

We don't know what "awareness" is. jeff47 Jan 2014 #190

Fair enough. Orrex Jan 2014 #191

Actually, I'm arguing veganism is worse. jeff47 Jan 2014 #192

First off that video comes off as Fox News or Glen Beck Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #89

We aren't photosynthetic jeff47 Jan 2014 #158

Actually no I haven't not the biggest fan of corn. I'm well aware that humans aren't photosynthetic Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #172

Corn was just one example. jeff47 Jan 2014 #184

I do know bananas are one of those things and I do love them Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #189

Cows are people too! ileus Jan 2014 #90

Beef Magazine v PETA handmade34 Jan 2014 #103

Cows to PETA - come and get me punk Baclava Jan 2014 #106

Wow those are some long horns Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #109

Yum MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #110

Humans are weak soft insignificant maggots that our children will crush under their hooves Baclava Jan 2014 #112

Until then MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #121

that was in my best Morbo voice Baclava Jan 2014 #128

LOL, good job then MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #130

I wonder what it's like CFLDem Jan 2014 #116

It's so much better to hand over your hard-earned cash to the beef industry instead. athena Jan 2014 #123

Well duh CFLDem Jan 2014 #124

The factory farm industry brings you joy? athena Jan 2014 #126

No CFLDem Jan 2014 #127

I stand by my statement. athena Jan 2014 #131

Well I think it's heartless to not eat the cow. CFLDem Jan 2014 #132

I hand as little money as possible to any food corporation - raven mad Jan 2014 #167

Don't fuck with my cheese and ice cream, PETA MrScorpio Jan 2014 #119

PETA doesn't care what you eat. athena Jan 2014 #133

I almost responded to 1, 2, 3...countless folks in this thread flvegan Jan 2014 #137

PETA gets attention, as does the plight of amimals, by extension. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #159

PETA a some scary people. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #138

Why not just link to Breitbart? yewberry Jan 2014 #141

beefmagazine.com - ? Gee, that's an unbiased source... Skip Intro Jan 2014 #149

If you know of an 'unbiased source'...let me know as I've not found one yet. eom Purveyor Jan 2014 #152

I suppose they are rare. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #156

If I have to choose between PETA and Beef magazine… quinnox Jan 2014 #153

Awesome. Why is that? flvegan Jan 2014 #155

I'm not a fan quinnox Jan 2014 #157

So then, ego. Cool. flvegan Jan 2014 #161

Yep.. Animals are tasty. Wig eat them Adrahil Jan 2014 #173

This message was self-deleted by its author El_Johns Jan 2014 #164

seriously? you don't understand? veganlush Jan 2014 #165

Wrong? Based on what? Adrahil Jan 2014 #174

future generations will look back veganlush Jan 2014 #193

Maybe some day. But that day is not today. nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #195

I have no love for PETAs tactics (even though I am for animal rights) cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #166

4 simple letters RandiFan1290 Jan 2014 #175

So they want to save them...by killing them? Arkana Jan 2014 #183

Wouldn't the cattle be happier if the humans chose extinction? Coyotl Jan 2014 #186

Beef Magazine G_j Jan 2014 #194

That's definitely ethical treatment of animals... Fearless Jan 2014 #197

Factory farming sucks. Period. Glassunion Jan 2014 #198

I think humans beings suffer and cause plenty of suffering also. What to do...what to do??? lumpy Jan 2014 #204