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Kelvin Mace

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84. No, the point he was making was

Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:24 PM

Jan 2014

similar to the point my wife made a few weeks ago while on a cruise and we were hitting choppy water. People were complaining about how it was messing up their balance and ability to walk straight.

My wife smiled and said "Welcome to my world".

My wife suffers from Multiple Sclerosis and equilibrium and walking problems are things she deals with every day on solid ground. She wasn't attacking the people making the remarks about a choppy sea, she was adding insight and context of her own experience.

Proud Public Servant made a statement about the unfairness of the OP and OnyxCollie state, "That's par for the course. Welcome to DU."

In other words, OnyxCollie was simply stating this happens a lot on DU. The "welcome" part is made as a wry observation on this fact.

I hope that clears it up.

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Brian Schweitzer's run as a leftwing Teabagger seeking ACA repeal will fail miserably. [View all] geek tragedy Jan 2014 OP

Thank you geek tragedy JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #1

There's certainly reason for progressives to be disappointed. Heck, we all had higher geek tragedy Jan 2014 #3

Exactly JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #5

If this clown couldn't even mention leftynyc Jan 2014 #49

Gotta agree. If Warren is true to her word and won't run against Clinton, I recommend giving FSogol Jan 2014 #2

I like O'Malley a lot, but is he an effective enough candidate? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #4

We'll have to wait and see, I suppose. FSogol Jan 2014 #6

Oops, posted twice--delete TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #28

I could see supporting O'Malley. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #28

I could too. What I would need to see from him was the ability to WIN. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #33

Yup, needs to make a compelling case for himself and come out swinging. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #35

And, the ugly truth is that he needs to show he can raise money. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #43

Did he want a job in the administration - and didn't get it? polichick Jan 2014 #7

I always get the feeling Schweitzer is attempting to ripoff some kind of TR persona. phleshdef Jan 2014 #8

That article is getting lots of praise in another thread. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #9

If you add a superficial layer of progressivishness to teabagger talking points, geek tragedy Jan 2014 #11

Pretty much. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #12

He says the ACA is a givaway to corporations AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #150

They agree 100% that Congress needs to repeal the ACA . geek tragedy Jan 2014 #153

Show me where McConnell wants to get rid of the ACA AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #157

Schweitzer says we have no choice but to repeal the ACA. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #159

No, I don't get your drift AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #161

He knows single payer won't have the votes to pass. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #163

Wow, seriously? Arkana Jan 2014 #10

That's really, REALLY misleading Proud Public Servant Jan 2014 #13

That's par for the course. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #14

You're welcoming someone to DU with over a thousand posts? Demit Jan 2014 #56

It was meant as a rhetorical device. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #58

A rhetorical device in aid of what? Demit Jan 2014 #67

Why are you wasting my time? OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #71

I'm curious. Demit Jan 2014 #76

No, the point he was making was Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #84

He stole his talking points from Paul Ryan re: predicting the ACA will fail geek tragedy Jan 2014 #17

He says it is a corporate givaway, which is true AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #152

He says it's doomed to failure and needs to be repealed. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #155

Because he believes it is too corporate AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #158

No, he believes we literally need to dump it because it is incapable geek tragedy Jan 2014 #160

He believes that it is a givaway to corporations, which he believes AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #162

Getting rid of the ACA would mean it gets replaced by nothing. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #165

Why do you hate Obama? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #52

Running ProSense Jan 2014 #66

want some cheese to go with that whine? nt Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #15

One could ask that of all 15 of Schweitzer's future primary supporters nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #19

Why does this feel like a hit job on Schweitzer? Scuba Jan 2014 #16

He favors repealing the ACA, saying that it will absolutely fail if not replaced, using the geek tragedy Jan 2014 #18

Is this your opinion, or can you cite his speeches, literature, etc.? Scuba Jan 2014 #20

Here you go. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #24

So nobody asked him about pre-existing conditions, lifetime caps, etc .... Scuba Jan 2014 #34

He was asked for a single positive contribution that Obama has made, and he said geek tragedy Jan 2014 #39

Plenty of Obama-hating white people on the left here on DU. baldguy Jan 2014 #40

ironicallly, a lot of them supported Hillary because she's white. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #42

Awww Jesus, this crappity race card again? LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #68

Well, when an anti-Obama white guy says the only good thing about Obama geek tragedy Jan 2014 #70

There is an argument to be made that the ACA is the wrong path Renew Deal Jan 2014 #154

There is an argument, but there are not the votes. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #156

Careful, or you'll become "just another Obama-hating white guy" too. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #22

White guys who don't explicitly race bait are fine. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #31

And I love when any disagreement with Obama's policies LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #73

Schweitzer said the only good thing Obama has done is his value as a racial symbol. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #77

Of course, it's a hit job Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #23

Schweitzer=Paul Ryan on the ACA. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #26

Schweitzer wants SINGLE PAYER think Jan 2014 #37

His policy is "repeal and replace." geek tragedy Jan 2014 #41

The "single payer" statement is from your posted article: think Jan 2014 #48

you see, Schweitzer disagrees that the ACA is better than nothing. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #50

The marching orders have been issued. morningfog Jan 2014 #123

I would say Geek Tragedy calling himself a "Bernie Sanders liberal" brentspeak Jan 2014 #21

Oh Gawd. Thanks for the morning chuckle. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #27

Can you name a policy area where I disagree with Bernie? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #30

Bernie Sanders: "OWS is shining a light on most serious problems facing US" brentspeak Jan 2014 #51

Why do you hate Obama? Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #53

that's not a policy argument, that's an argument over tactics. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #54

Bernie Sanders: "I do not believe Mr. Lew is that person (to be Treasury Sec)" brentspeak Jan 2014 #60

not sure how you dinging me for stating something that's factually correct geek tragedy Jan 2014 #61

No, you have no strong feelings for Jack Lew brentspeak Jan 2014 #62

Are you doing your dissertation on geek tragedy? FSogol Jan 2014 #63

there's some hurt feelings going on because a certain conspiracy theory geek tragedy Jan 2014 #69

Sad. FSogol Jan 2014 #74

o goodness graciious... Whisp Jan 2014 #167

Are you trolling me? brentspeak Jan 2014 #107

No, I'm speaking up when I see someone being stalked from thread to thread. FSogol Jan 2014 #108

Interesting projection of yours brentspeak Jan 2014 #120

No hole, I'm here every day, you Better Believe It! FSogol Jan 2014 #125

Trolling every day, yes. brentspeak Jan 2014 #126

You should let Skinner know that your ignore seems to be broken? FSogol Jan 2014 #128

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Wow, it is almost like people on DU object to a constant barage of RW talking points! FSogol Jan 2014 #175

i pointed out factual inaccuracies. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #64

"Jack Riddler was posting illogical nonsense and gobbledygook" brentspeak Jan 2014 #97

Sigh. Maybe you're not aware of this, but CAI isn't an independent company geek tragedy Jan 2014 #98

Ha, ha, ha! brentspeak Jan 2014 #99

You're making shit up again. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #100

Comedy gold brentspeak Jan 2014 #101

Overseeing coordination geek tragedy Jan 2014 #105

Well, I'm LOL'ing about the minimizing of a COO's position. nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #130

Welp, that scratches him from my list. Elizabeth Warren, PLEASE pick up the TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #25

Left-wing Teabagger? liberal N proud Jan 2014 #32

Teabaggerism is defined by opposition and hatred of all things Obama. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #36

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2014 #80

No it's not. And you making shit up has less than zero credibility. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #113

Nobody is insulting 'all progressives.' geek tragedy Jan 2014 #115

Yeah, you pretty much did. If progressives don't act like you want them to... DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #117

Yawn. Lying about my ideology is a pretty pathetic way geek tragedy Jan 2014 #119

Hey, sleepy. I'm not the liar here. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #136

Zzzzz. At least Ted Cruz is entertaining when he postures geek tragedy Jan 2014 #140

Thanks, rageboi. I guess you weren't getting enough attention in the other thread. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #142

Oh, I'm not the one comparing other DUers to Ted Bundy and falsely geek tragedy Jan 2014 #144

"Teabaggerism is defined by opposition and hatred of all things Obama"---geek tragedy, post 36 bvar22 Jan 2014 #177

are you saying that Tea party types are not known for their knee-jerk opposition geek tragedy Jan 2014 #178

No. bvar22 Jan 2014 #183

if you're going to get hung up on the distinction between "defined by" and geek tragedy Jan 2014 #184

Your "logic" is also fatally flawed. bvar22 Jan 2014 #185

well, no, since virtually everyone geek tragedy Jan 2014 #186

Maybe this will help you. bvar22 Jan 2014 #187

Are they trying to pawn the teabaggers off on the Democrats? bvar22 Jan 2014 #87

No. He's a liberal progressive Democrat. He said so. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #138

In other words, he is an ideologue. Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #102

The Very Sensible People have been referring to progressives as leftbaggers/firebaggers.. frylock Jan 2014 #103

Don't forget his support for Keystone XL. He wants the "jackasses" in DC to hurry up and pass it... SidDithers Jan 2014 #38

You got that right. 2naSalit Jan 2014 #78

Thanks for your insight on Cha Jan 2014 #174

Like Putin.. you couldn't Cha Jan 2014 #173

Is this the REAL reason he's pissed at Obama? Hmmmmmm...... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #191

He clearly hates Obama...which is why he gave the keynote at Obama's 2012 Convention brooklynite Jan 2014 #44

Shhhh Savannahmann Jan 2014 #45

If you think running as the anti-Obama in a Democratic primary is a good idea, geek tragedy Jan 2014 #47

his current persona hates Obama, his 2012 persona kissed Obama's ass geek tragedy Jan 2014 #46

Doesn't that make it the more curiouser? Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #59

Sorry To Inform You, But He Did Not Give the 2012 Keynote Speech That Honor Went To Juli�n Castro MagickMuffin Jan 2014 #106

Part of me wants Sherrod Brown to run. riqster Jan 2014 #55

Yeah, we need Brown in the Senate, for now. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #57

This makes me like him less. n/t Chan790 Jan 2014 #65

I highly doubt that CA, NY, or IL would go against him in the GD. JVS Jan 2014 #72

Do you approve of IWR-Hillary running as Democratic candidate? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #75

I will be very keenly listening to hear what she says about that vote. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #79

Maybe she won't threaten to nuke Iran this time Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #81

Do you approve of KeystoneXL-Schweitzer running as Democratic candidate? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #89

Yes. A helluva lot more than I approve of Hillary's pro-war votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #90

Good to know you want more war. jeff47 Jan 2014 #91

Does Hillary support the pipeline? We know she supports wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #92

No idea. And to be clear, I'll be voting for jeff47 Jan 2014 #93

We have a meaningless primary here. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #95

yes. a big bold yes. look at this: Whisp Jan 2014 #169

That's so 2002. Beacool Jan 2014 #104

Haters just gotta hate is that it? Rex Jan 2014 #82

I never considered supporting Schweitzer until this thread LittleBlue Jan 2014 #83

+1 JVS Jan 2014 #110

A lot of out of context clip quotes, and even some down right leaps to conclusion on Obama there.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #85

Sounds like a emo prog firebagger Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #86

Schweitzer said the only good thing Obama has done is to be black. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #88

Do you have a quote of him saying that? Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #94

He was asked to identify ONE positive accomplishment of President Obama. He gave a four part answer geek tragedy Jan 2014 #131

So what were his exact words? Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #132

Here are his exact words when asked to identify ONE positive accomplishment under President Obama. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #133

Those words do not match your earlier claim Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #134

That is an accurate summary of what Schweitzer said. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #137

Can you please link to a video or transcript? Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #139

The reporter provided a direct quote, verbatim. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #141

That quote does not say "the only good thing Obama has done is to be black" as you claimed he said Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #145

When asked to name a positive accomplishment, the only thing he was willing to say was that geek tragedy Jan 2014 #146

I ask again do you have a quote? Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #147

The reporter said this was an exact quote: geek tragedy Jan 2014 #148

Yes we are done, you clearly can not back up your accusation. Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #149

Here's the "first black president" quote from MSNBC�s Benjy Sarlin . via Ed Gilgore @ Political Cha Jan 2014 #176

You've been very dishonest in this thread DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #179

The quote is obvious on its face to anyone who will pretend geek tragedy Jan 2014 #181

No. More. Cowboys. n/t Holly_Hobby Jan 2014 #96

It's Naderism at it's most cynical. Schweitzer might get away with the anti Obama crap in all white Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #109

Perfect summation of that other thread and of a hell of alot of posters in this forum Number23 Jan 2014 #111

Good grief. The trash can is getting a work out today over a made up quote. neverforget Jan 2014 #112

So basically, he's a FIGHTER for liberal values? anti partisan Jan 2014 #114

No, he's a self-promoting phony who's pandering to Teabaggers. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #116

He's not pandering to Teabaggers. Be more disingenuous. anti partisan Jan 2014 #118

He stole his ACA talking points--word for word--from Paul Ryan and Karl Rove. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #121

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #127

Show me where "stole his ACA talking points word for word" from Ryan/Rove anti partisan Jan 2014 #171

Disgraceful dishonesty about a Democratic Governor who favors single payer as many do. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #122

Really? He's on record stating that Medicaid is one of the geek tragedy Jan 2014 #124

and the smearing begins Vattel Jan 2014 #135

He said President Obama didn't have a single positive accomplishment worth praising. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #143

another smear Vattel Jan 2014 #188

what was his answer when asked if he could name a single positive accomplishment geek tragedy Jan 2014 #189

he made a joke about changing the subject if you can't say something nice Vattel Jan 2014 #192

oh, so he can't say anything nice about the Obama administration. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #193

"coupled with racialism" Come on, that would be funny if it wasn't so slimy Vattel Jan 2014 #194

oh, what was the only positive thing about Barack Obama's presidency he could think of? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #195

what the hell... why did he turn compleat asshole Whisp Jan 2014 #151

Schweitzer's polcies - single-payer health care, civil liberties, pulling troops out of Afghanistan Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #164

Favors XL pipeline, big hero of the NRA. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #166

Support for XL pipeline and mining moves him to the poser catagory. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #168

He used to work for the Clintons. Whisp Jan 2014 #190

That's. Just. stupid. Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #170

"A racial token".. running as a left wing racist teabagger.. is Cha Jan 2014 #172

Reminds me of the hilarious Darcy Richardson promotion during Campaign 2012 SidDithers Jan 2014 #180

their consituency looks to be pretty similar. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #182