All day long I have been fuming about this and I am glad that I waited to post it. I COULD BURN

[RainDog]

186. I don't think you see things as they are

I agree, DoctorJ shouldn't have made this a personal issue because it's not. That was his logical fallacy.

What appears to be callousness is actually an attempt to appeal to reason. But this is the internet, so he's also going for the quick insult rather than simply talk about the lies contained in an OP that conflates all men with one seriously repulsive individual.

I knew an Italian man who beat his wife. Does that mean all Italian men beat their wives? Does that mean a report on an Italian man who beat his wife should be presented as ITALIANS ARE RAISING THEIR SONS TO BEAT THEIR WIVES... as a reality?

Would the Italians on DU find such a post offensive? Why yes, I think they would. Is it a form of "racism" or assigning the characteristics of one person to an entire group when someone says a group does this or that based upon the actions of one person in that group? Why yes. Yes, we would all agree that it is in fact one of the classic examples of racism. If I said that religion teaches men to abuse women, would someone be upset by such a blanket statement? Why yes, they would.

But the OP can say that about men because they're men? Not in my world.

What people are really trying to point out here is that the OP is attempting to manipulate emotions of people on this site and try to pretend that this person's opinions about certain things are anything other than their opinions.

An increase in domestic violence, for instance, is tied to lack of economic opportunity and the struggle of families to survive on low wages, etc. But domestic violence also occurs across economic strata, so economic hardship itself isn't the only reason for domestic violence.

I'm a woman and I know about issues of domestic violence and I also know when someone is being dishonest.

But, if you think it's the decent thing to do to insult someone on DU because of an OP that lies about "men" as a class of people, that's your choice.

Since we know that economic hardship is correlated with increases in domestic violence, according to law enforcement, why aren't we all marching on Washington to stop the epidemic of low wages and all the associated harms to our civil society that go along with it?

....rather than blame Mylie Cyrus?