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Agnosticsherbet

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11. But he isn't a member of the Democratic Party so he is not "more of a "Democrat""

Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:30 AM

Jan 2014

So he will not go head to head against whoever runs until the general election, in which case he would more likely act as a spoiler. In the primary, somebody like Warren or Klobuchar would force all the candidates to the left.

Except for the very rare third party candidate (Perot or Teddy Roosevelt) they don't really move politics, but they do act as spoilers, draining off votes from one of the big parties. Roosevelt ran the most successful third party run in history and the republicans lost because of that. Perot's appeal to the right, especially libertarians and centrists who vote Republican, allowed Clinton to win with a plurality of votes.

So, yes, he could change parties in a heartbeat, but I suspect that is unlikely since he has never been inclined to do that before.

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But he isn't a member of the Democratic Party so he is not "more of a "Democrat"" Agnosticsherbet Jan 2014 #11

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