All day long I have been fuming about this and I am glad that I waited to post it. I COULD BURN

[Waiting For Everyman]

233. Agree.

I'm surprised at this subthread (and another downthread). I realize now that there is no point participating in the "gender wars" threads (not this one, but others when they come up) because not only one side but both sides are ideology driven, the reality for women being irrelevant to both of them. But that's only pertinent to my participation here, of interest to me at least.

Anyway, your points were well taken, It's clear that the primary point of this OP is the fact of this attack, and not the much more minor subject in passing of the OP's attribution of societal causes. The fact of that primary point really isn't hard to grasp... unless there's an effort being made to be obtuse, in which case, one would have to wonder why? I draw no conclusion on that, but the deflection itself I find very interesting.

The argument of "facts" is presented as nothing more than an assertion, to counter the OP's assertion, but the counter is somehow (?) so much more valid. No, I don't think so. The OP at least had a valid and organic reason for making the assertion.

Well now I know (again this is centric to me) that I can, sadly, no longer identify with the "cohort". Neither am I any happier than before with the "vocal feminist minority". I guess that leaves me left out, out in left field. And that's ok with me. Weird, that this thread clarified that for me though.