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Brickbat

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12. You hit on it, actually.

Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:52 AM

Jan 2014

Talk to boys about it the way we talk to girls. And give people who say "but then how will I know if she wants sex? It's so haaarrrrrrd to figure out!" the response they deserve -- a long, loud laugh in their faces.

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Reports: 3 boys assaulted girl before her suicide [View all] theHandpuppet Jan 2014 OP

Sigh.... sufrommich Jan 2014 #1

Yeah. 30 and 45 days sounds about right. Orrex Jan 2014 #2

I guess that's how much a girl's life is worth in this country theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #3

You know boys will be boys get the red out Jan 2014 #5

But ... but ... but ... this'll ruin their weekends ... meegbear Jan 2014 #14

And their budding football careers (yes, this is AGAIN rape by student athletes!) riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #44

So, they're learning this shit from somewhere. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #4

Wow. 99Forever Jan 2014 #6

So, you think this is a matter of degree? Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #15

Why are you asking me? 99Forever Jan 2014 #16

I didn't understand your first slam at Le Taz, much less the second theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #17

You left out "broadbrush accusatory". redqueen Jan 2014 #23

For me personally - I don't want support from those who put conditions around it. What, if I don't seaglass Jan 2014 #47

Excellent. 99Forever Jan 2014 #91

What are you refusing to support redqueen Jan 2014 #117

oh, my. . .HOWEVER will we bear up under the weight of your disapprobation???? niyad Jan 2014 #123

all the while claiming to be our "allies" BainsBane Jan 2014 #141

And jumping directly to "This is all about ME! Why are you bothering ME?" Amazing. Squinch Jan 2014 #145

I asked the question in my original post. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #18

+1000 Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #19

What did Le Taz Hot post that was "militant"? Heidi Jan 2014 #38

Yeah, I didn't get it either... theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #50

I swear. Seems like "militant" has become a sexist dog whistle for Heidi Jan 2014 #81

Right you are. We are all "rad fems" for trying to post @ women's issues GD. bettyellen Jan 2014 #107

They know they'd get banned if they use "feminazi", though the tone is identical. Starry Messenger Jan 2014 #120

And "broadbrushing" is "DU woman suggesting that bad things sometimes happen to women." Squinch Jan 2014 #146

you don't sound like you ever had any intention of being an ally. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #56

+1 lunasun Jan 2014 #151

again with the "tone"?? we have to express our outrage, our horror, in soft, pleasing, soothing niyad Jan 2014 #62

Objections are allowed only if delivered in a ladylike manner theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #64

oh dear, and to think I flunked those classes niyad Jan 2014 #67

Where's that fainting couch when you really need one? theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #70

found a great one at the thrift store a couple of weeks ago!! alas, already had a sold sign. niyad Jan 2014 #112

She was a helluva woman theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #154

See my sig line. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #74

Ha-ha! Good one! theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #77

You think you're an ally? Then why is discussing the prevalence of gang rape bettyellen Jan 2014 #82

I quoted the problem. 99Forever Jan 2014 #96

No, you attacked someone who was discussing the problem. As you can see, no one believes you ever bettyellen Jan 2014 #104

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Oh dear, do you have ANYTHING to contribute at all here? If no, them go away as promised. bettyellen Jan 2014 #109

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You said you wouldn't be an ally. So where does that leave you? Not belonging here. bettyellen Jan 2014 #111

So what are you? Thread Gatekeeper? 99Forever Jan 2014 #113

and you lose a bit more credibility every time you do. we are so hurt you lied about ditching us.. bettyellen Jan 2014 #116

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #119

NO. You accused a poster here of hyperbole when it came to gang rape. And threatened to withdraw bettyellen Jan 2014 #125

Carry on. 99Forever Jan 2014 #128

Your self-awareness has suddenly become quite acute REP Jan 2014 #131

Aren't you special? 99Forever Jan 2014 #133

you are no more an ally than Todd Aiken and the rest of that bunch JI7 Jan 2014 #92

Who the fuck is "Todd Aiken?" 99Forever Jan 2014 #95

let's see--you have been registered here since 2011. you are posting in a thread on RAPE, and niyad Jan 2014 #121

In what context Charlie? would be a smarter answer, LOL. I'm sure you read "all the papers" too. bettyellen Jan 2014 #130

This type of post does your point of view no favors. yardwork Jan 2014 #98

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #102

Just another anonymous commenter like you. yardwork Jan 2014 #103

Really? 99Forever Jan 2014 #105

You expressed outraged at the use of the phrase BainsBane Jan 2014 #142

oh, my, we actually understand you very well indeed. this is not the first time we have seen this niyad Jan 2014 #122

he is here to "do battle" LOL� lost on the way to the neighborhood arcade? ran out of quarters? bettyellen Jan 2014 #129

we have a penny arcade here, if that would help. niyad Jan 2014 #136

great question- why does this poster find discussing rape to be- personally- their problem? bettyellen Jan 2014 #114

If you would portray that comment as "militant" MadrasT Jan 2014 #153

Ding! Ding! Ding! theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #155

Can you clarify your objection? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #24

I know your reply was to 99 Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #36

I agree, but there is at least some delta between AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #75

the Danish tourist was not murdered, and the connection between her story and this suicide is gang bettyellen Jan 2014 #140

Ah, I see, I was thinking of a different case in India. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #149

It's super unfortunate here that when we discuss the cultural problems that cause bettyellen Jan 2014 #150

Over the top hyperbole?!? chervilant Jan 2014 #43

Do you have a cite for this? DragonBorn Jan 2014 #59

Thank you for expressing an interest in this data. chervilant Jan 2014 #86

I'll try to catch it tonight. DragonBorn Jan 2014 #88

Why do you assume that things are better now? yardwork Jan 2014 #99

I would hope they're better now! Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #159

Over the top? BainsBane Jan 2014 #134

"Over the top hyperbole much?" awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #138

You should probably just stick to antagonizing the gungeon crowd. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #143

10% correct malaise Jan 2014 #13

They are learning it from social media. Beacool Jan 2014 #27

"Kids want to be cool." Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #33

Why is it cool? theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #37

I come from a time when the women's movement was strong Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #42

When it comes to politics, Democrats are better than Republicans, but not by that much. Beacool Jan 2014 #48

Old enough to remember the old fights in the 60's and 70's. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #51

Then you know what I'm talking about. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #58

Yep. I'm in the same place. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #63

I'm thinking this might need a seperate thread -- asking younger women Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #65

That would be great theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #68

did you ever watch the pbs doc "makers: women who make american" 3 hours, well done. niyad Jan 2014 #132

I haven't but I will now. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #135

I am old enough to remember that fight, and my naive belief that we could effect serious change. niyad Jan 2014 #127

I agree with you up to a point but I strongly believe that this issue of rape does NOT originate Squinch Jan 2014 #156

But the perception is that "alpha-males" is what women are attracted to davidn3600 Jan 2014 #158

Who makes Hollywood movies? Who makes Disney movies? By and large, it isn't women. Squinch Jan 2014 #161

What about Elizabeth Hasselbeck? davidn3600 Jan 2014 #163

Seriously? You are letting Elizabeth Hasselback decide what you think about yourself? Squinch Jan 2014 #164

Men dont feel oppressed, there is no pressure to change davidn3600 Jan 2014 #165

*sigh* Have a nice night. Squinch Jan 2014 #166

We are not going to get anywhere until you admit men are not the only part of the problem here... davidn3600 Jan 2014 #167

David, check out this OP: Squinch Jan 2014 #162

Because it makes them feel like the Alpha males in front of their peers. Beacool Jan 2014 #46

Well then somehow we need to change the method by which Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #49

It's always been there, in some form or another. redqueen Jan 2014 #53

2000 years Locrian Jan 2014 #60

Yes, hierarchical power structures are a fantastic way to ensure the system keeps going. redqueen Jan 2014 #76

Now THAT is significant: Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #61

It's already started. redqueen Jan 2014 #71

I am SO happy to see this! Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #72

The Every Day Sexism Project linked in that article sufrommich Jan 2014 #73

That project did so much. redqueen Jan 2014 #79

periodically, time magazine runs an article (frequently headlined on the cover) with the breathless niyad Jan 2014 #137

Just read a post about a republican, Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #160

Parents aren't doing enough to monitor Ilsa Jan 2014 #40

i think it's always been there but social media may make things even worse JI7 Jan 2014 #90

the basic reason is the same in India and here. magical thyme Jan 2014 #87

Le Taz...its not...unprecidented...its not increasing...take any time earlier 30 40 50 60 years ago Drew Richards Jan 2014 #118

Video games are not the cause of this. Mrdrboi Jan 2014 #126

I was stunned in that last thread to learn that the rate of rape in the US is 17 times that of India Squinch Jan 2014 #144

There is no rape culture! Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #7

Nope, that's just "a HoF invention". redqueen Jan 2014 #26

Yeah, it's just something us mean girls came up with in our spare time. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #83

No excuses for what they did, but... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #8

You hit on it, actually. Brickbat Jan 2014 #12

I actually agree. Xyzse Jan 2014 #52

First we have to admit that there is a problem. yardwork Jan 2014 #100

We can't even get many progressives to agree that sexualization, objectification, Zorra Jan 2014 #124

Excuse ME? *30 DAYS?!* Triana Jan 2014 #9

I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #11

These cases are so tragic cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #10

These guys need to be doing 20 plus years. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #20

Agreed. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #84

I think we need to reform the way we incarcerate juveniles. Half-Century Man Jan 2014 #21

Society has become a cesspool. Beacool Jan 2014 #22

"But he's such a good boy" theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #25

Every time I hear that BS line... AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #30

That's the way I feel get the red out Jan 2014 #55

Parents are responsible for their home of the environment. Beacool Jan 2014 #39

Dehumanizing women comes with a price. When Hefner declared that "women are sex objects" redqueen Jan 2014 #29

You might be interested in chervilant Jan 2014 #54

I wonder how many girls participate out of fear that they may become the next victim CrispyQ Jan 2014 #66

Not going to blame porn overall here but I would point out AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #28

That's a really tough question theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #31

How about this for punishment... kag Jan 2014 #32

Given the intelligence and attitude of a lot of godevil10 Jan 2014 #85

I was going to say, if you think this will be considered a punishment for them, you need to spend... Shandris Jan 2014 #89

A 15 year old girl is raped and driven to suicide NuclearDem Jan 2014 #34

This SERIOUSLY pisses me off! Adrahil Jan 2014 #35

What creeps marions ghost Jan 2014 #41

These boys had pictures of other girls without their clothes on, on their phones riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #45

These little monsters get the red out Jan 2014 #57

Another sad, tragic loss. polly7 Jan 2014 #69

Lord have mercy! shenmue Jan 2014 #78

Who raises these monsters? CrispyQ Jan 2014 #80

I'm curious to know about their home life theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #93

Damn. Solly Mack Jan 2014 #94

Yep. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #97

I do not believe I will be voting for the DA KamaAina Jan 2014 #101

i am never ever visiting california. never taking such a risk. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #108

I thought that thread ended up pretty unfairly categorizing a whole nation, too. nt. polly7 Jan 2014 #115

just so you know, i said that to make a point. i love california La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #148

I understood, and it was a good point. polly7 Jan 2014 #152

Audrie's Law niyad Jan 2014 #139

Fucking human mongrels. flvegan Jan 2014 #147

Does this shit ever end?! Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #157

It almost seems like a fucking time warp..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #168