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256. I agree. I'm shocked that happened in this thread.

Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:05 AM

Jan 2014

It's very disappointing to see a long time DUer's personal story as traumatic as this, questioned on so little and so quickly.

Even if there is an apology, which I hope to see sometime today, I still feel bad for roguevalley. That really was not right.

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All day long I have been fuming about this and I am glad that I waited to post it. I COULD BURN [View all] roguevalley Jan 2014 OP

... Mnemosyne Jan 2014 #1

A most rightous rant. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2014 #2

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #13

good point!! n/t tulsakatz Jan 2014 #33

Too bad a shitty jury hid it. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #61

^^This^^ nt Fla Dem Jan 2014 #65

Indeed. tosh Jan 2014 #68

smh CFLDem Jan 2014 #83

I can't believe they hid it. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #90

That is sick in itself, that a jury would hide that post. loudsue Jan 2014 #106

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #40

Sure. Because prison rape is a cause we should all support. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #79

You brought up rape. CFLDem Jan 2014 #80

Yeh, sure. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #81

I am of the position that hate and abuse for anyone means the same for everyone. roguevalley Jan 2014 #124

cutting off penises isn't a cause to be supported either. Whisp Jan 2014 #166

UPDATE: I will post this up and down the thread roguevalley Jan 2014 #266

Thanks for the update. Kaleva Jan 2014 #273

I have no words I can add to this. Thank you for posting it. nt kelly1mm Jan 2014 #3

^^ this pnwest Jan 2014 #21

No words. TDale313 Jan 2014 #4

i hug you all back and when something like this happens it reinforces my deepest conviction that I roguevalley Jan 2014 #5

You really are a lovely soul TDale313 Jan 2014 #11

How on earth . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #6

I don't want her to be alone tonight even in a small way. How alone must she feel? I don't know. roguevalley Jan 2014 #10

God, I wish this could really happen! hamsterjill Jan 2014 #46

sweet heaven irisblue Jan 2014 #7

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2014 #8

My god. This is terrible beyond words. cyberswede Jan 2014 #9

You are correct KT2000 Jan 2014 #12

Oh RV!!!!!!! tblue Jan 2014 #14

I will, tblue Hug your sister. She is a hero and so are you. I don't get it either but it has roguevalley Jan 2014 #16

Thank God Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #38

Good lord Egnever Jan 2014 #15

Healing vibes and good karma. raven mad Jan 2014 #17

And if some idiot dares post snivel about how it has nothing to do Tumbulu Jan 2014 #18

I agree with you, Tumbulu. All the way. Hugs to you tonight. roguevalley Jan 2014 #20

Bite my head off then, if this amounts to "snivel" Silent3 Jan 2014 #89

GIGO..... ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #98

Without good statistics on rates of various sorts of crimes... Silent3 Jan 2014 #101

I've looked at statistics and they consistently show that violence against other humans BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #110

And who was denying most violent crime is committed by men? Silent3 Jan 2014 #113

my response was partly affected by how I felt about a different post BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #119

Yes, and white men have higher stats. WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #196

yep, they sure do. and thats another truth you wont hear BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #216

every 'sensational story' is a person's life. fifteen men raped a danish tourist yesterday in India roguevalley Jan 2014 #126

Sensationalism, or lack thereof, of course has nothing to do with the gravity... Silent3 Jan 2014 #137

This post is an "appeal to emotion" RainDog Jan 2014 #146

Really enjoying your posts enigmatic Jan 2014 #152

thanks! RainDog Jan 2014 #161

Yep. Unless you not only join in on the rending of garments, but leave it at that... Silent3 Jan 2014 #172

You were brave RainDog Jan 2014 #174

Some false equivalency here- WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #201

Interesting opinion RainDog Jan 2014 #203

Don't waste your breath trying to talk down to me. WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #206

You're entitled to your opinion RainDog Jan 2014 #207

Just to clarify-yes, you were talking down to me, WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #218

Agree. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #233

I guess its a matter of perspective. I have been female all my life. I have experienced stuff all my roguevalley Jan 2014 #208

I'm a woman RainDog Jan 2014 #211

Well said! nt Tumbulu Jan 2014 #120

consider this then. If a child raised in abuse has an increased possibility of abusing, if an roguevalley Jan 2014 #125

If we were to follow the pattern you established with smoking and drinking... Silent3 Jan 2014 #139

Easy to ignore the values inherent in such behavior. WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #202

Another feature of pychology is the gathering of evidence Silent3 Jan 2014 #213

A gathering of evidence RainDog Jan 2014 #232

I wish him harm get the red out Jan 2014 #100

Violence against women isn't about eroticism Android3.14 Jan 2014 #122

Well then why are they eroticising it? Tumbulu Jan 2014 #190

I don't disagree at all that violent porn liberalhistorian Jan 2014 #189

I am so sorry, and I understand your rage passiveporcupine Jan 2014 #19

Oh, Rogue, I am SO sorry to read this. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #22

God Blue, what is happening to us? It feels like war sometimes. Its like she was annihilated. All roguevalley Jan 2014 #23

He's pathetic. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #24

There have been letters of people who would get really cheap health care but for him. They are mad. roguevalley Jan 2014 #27

Everything he does makes me mad. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #28

If we do, Blue In AK, we deserve what we get. raven mad Jan 2014 #42

that is an idea, raven. Never underestimate the power of your loving intention. Those are prayers roguevalley Jan 2014 #127

I'm new, but feel like I know you! raven mad Jan 2014 #43

That's the gods' honest truth. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #72

And welcome to DU, Raven. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #74

yes, welcome raven. I hug you. roguevalley Jan 2014 #130

I hate to say it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #25

The lack of respect for civil behavior doesn't help. And Machismo is far too admired. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2014 #26

Good points! nt Tumbulu Jan 2014 #191

K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #29

screw pressing charges. good for alaska. the victim IS the evidence. period. pansypoo53219 Jan 2014 #30

How awful. oldandhappy Jan 2014 #31

Nightmareish cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #32

amen. thank you for saying it so plain. bbgrunt Jan 2014 #34

Where does somebody get the idea that they can Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #35

Patriarchy/Sexism plus alcohol/alcoholism is a dangerous combination. stevenleser Jan 2014 #36

Holy cow Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #37

Some people are just sociopaths. athena Jan 2014 #45

4% of people are sociopaths leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #47

I agree. athena Jan 2014 #48

Some of those really violent psychopaths have had normal childhoods. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #50

But these types around my part of the Tumbulu Jan 2014 #194

Maybe you're right Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #91

I just read a book. athena Jan 2014 #95

My heart goes out to these victims. I hope they`re surrounded by love and support. democrank Jan 2014 #39

Truth. K&R nt TBF Jan 2014 #41

The tell tale signs .... Lurker Deluxe Jan 2014 #44

no words. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #49

Monster - glad he is off the street lunasun Jan 2014 #51

Oh my God. In Michigan,the abused person does sufrommich Jan 2014 #52

California too. Hopefully very soon, all states truedelphi Jan 2014 #182

Thank You..! KoKo Jan 2014 #53

This: CrispyQ Jan 2014 #54

how is your sister's coworker? G_j Jan 2014 #55

he had to take off work two days because his face is a pumpkin. It hurt to look at him. roguevalley Jan 2014 #209

It's just not right G_j Jan 2014 #234

I felt the same way when I saw this on the news yesterday. redqueen Jan 2014 #56

Gloria Steinem said that the most dangerous place for a woman leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #63

It can't continue like this. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #92

I have been trying to think of words to say.... defacto7 Jan 2014 #133

There really aren't words davidthegnome Jan 2014 #57

Domestic violence isn't a crime connected to sufrommich Jan 2014 #59

I see poverty as more of a symptom davidthegnome Jan 2014 #60

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #62

all of the men of my life are my heroes. You are a good man. You don't have to say anything roguevalley Jan 2014 #132

Thank you for your beautiful post Tumbulu Jan 2014 #197

He beat the shit out of a GUY too B2G Jan 2014 #58

agreed. Mindless violence is sick and sad for us all. roguevalley Jan 2014 #210

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again…. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #64

I don't know where to begin to cry bullshit on this post Doctor_J Jan 2014 #66

That is really inappropriate. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author stg81 Jan 2014 #78

I'll tell you where to begin to "cry bs." Don't. Simply don't go there. magical thyme Jan 2014 #96

Good God. Do you hear yourself? Squinch Jan 2014 #102

you get SELF DEFENSIVE at this? BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #107

So as long as no one blames YOUR penis... BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #108

why don't you delete this post? RainDog Jan 2014 #171

I think I'll let it stand BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #184

I don't think you see things as they are RainDog Jan 2014 #186

Excellently stated. polly7 Jan 2014 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other Jan 2014 #121

The ROFL is part of the posters sig n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #123

Sorry I had an emotional reaction to an emoticon. Generic Other Jan 2014 #185

be a woman and grow up looking over your shoulder. You might get it. roguevalley Jan 2014 #135

Well thank goodness you got that out of your system Scootaloo Jan 2014 #159

UPDATE: I am posting it up and down the thread roguevalley Jan 2014 #267

for posterity: geek tragedy Jan 2014 #278

When I worked in 840high Jan 2014 #69

All too common Tumbulu Jan 2014 #198

Many, many other women also living in terror me b zola Jan 2014 #70

So horrific amuse bouche Jan 2014 #71

Amen... Unca Jim Jan 2014 #73

This is a newsworthy story, but I need the link Android3.14 Jan 2014 #75

Are you under the impression that domestic violence sufrommich Jan 2014 #77

A case in which someone is held under boiling water and made to drink it would likely hit the wire Orrex Jan 2014 #85

This one would be top news, probably even national news Android3.14 Jan 2014 #87

Presumably it would show up on the local paper's webpage at least Orrex Jan 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Jan 2014 #115

no mention in the newspaper yet. I did hear the radio report the arrests and the woman was injured. roguevalley Jan 2014 #214

What paper is it? A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #229

google soldotna online radio. That should get it for you. I hadn't thought roguevalley Jan 2014 #275

Yes, I found it last night & posted it. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #276

So very sadly true nt Tumbulu Jan 2014 #199

right now, this is low key here. I only know because I am close to one of the victims roguevalley Jan 2014 #212

Thank you for caring marions ghost Jan 2014 #76

Rec'd for visibility. You said it all. I cannot add. WTFFFFFFFF indeed. mwooldri Jan 2014 #82

All I can say is wow! And I am sorry Lifelong Protester Jan 2014 #84

a most truly righteous rant. k and r niyad Jan 2014 #86

I bet this Thug would claim he's religious too. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #93

The stupidest thing I've read in a longtime. Omnith Jan 2014 #144

Welcome to DU!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #153

Thanks, but I've been here a while. Omnith Jan 2014 #157

Yeah it was really out of nowhere wasn't it? Union Scribe Jan 2014 #261

I feel this way when I allow myself to think about it. cry baby Jan 2014 #94

... magical thyme Jan 2014 #97

Reading this makes me so angry get the red out Jan 2014 #99

I'm with you BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #109

"this is far below the level of any dog" CrispyQ Jan 2014 #277

Incredible vicious cruelty.?? I don't know.. Stuart G Jan 2014 #103

The deliberate starvation in Nigeria was in Biafra, I think Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #271

Oh, roguevalley, this is so hard to hear. Squinch Jan 2014 #104

OMG! mecherosegarden Jan 2014 #105

glad the guy was arrested. hope he gets a long sentence Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #111

rape and abuse is not a "male pass time" anymore than prostitution is a female pass time. NM_Birder Jan 2014 #112

IN your last paragraph, the excellent point you make - truedelphi Jan 2014 #181

Wow! I witnessed a lot of domestic abuse when I lived in the Northwest. I wonder if Alaska has the Cleita Jan 2014 #114

winter doesn't help 5-6 hours of daylight for weeks on end takes a toll for some. roguevalley Jan 2014 #215

Could you provide the name of the town? Android3.14 Jan 2014 #116

You are in the news business and don't understand that a lot of stuff does not make the newspaper? seaglass Jan 2014 #131

This horrific story ought to get national exposure. Kaleva Jan 2014 #140

It's up to the people involved isn't it? Not everyone wants to be exposed to media attention. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #142

With crimes up to simple assault or battery I might agree. Not attempted murder. stevenleser Jan 2014 #145

I don't know steven, I think the victims have a right to their privacy if they want it. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #154

Ethical reporting Android3.14 Jan 2014 #156

In the spirit of ethical behavior cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #265

I agree. If OP can PM me some details, I will definitely do that. stevenleser Jan 2014 #143

I hope she reponds to you Kaleva Jan 2014 #165

It is a mystery why this hideous story is not everywhere already. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #168

True if this guy was family or friend of Local's with power... KoKo Jan 2014 #150

It's important Android3.14 Jan 2014 #155

I live in a small town with a paper that reports police cases once a week. I only know this because roguevalley Jan 2014 #219

I am going to update when the news is made. It isn't so far. The town is my own. I will give the roguevalley Jan 2014 #217

Our clothing has nothing to do with causing abusers to abuse LadyHawkAZ Jan 2014 #117

This is true. I went to Catholic school and worked at a Catholic hospital. Cleita Jan 2014 #118

that wasn't the point. It is the accumulated imagery that makes ten year olds I taught school roguevalley Jan 2014 #220

Edited: Is there anyway we can follow this to check on progress of victims? Is it in the news? stevenleser Jan 2014 #128

It's been my experience that police and other agencies do not report to Cleita Jan 2014 #134

Good to know. Will update my comment. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #138

It's been my experience Android3.14 Jan 2014 #173

It isn't more than reported as an arrest with injury. when there is more news I will post it. roguevalley Jan 2014 #221

UPDATE: Check Soldotna on the news online broadcasts. They are starting to roguevalley Jan 2014 #268

Thanks for the update. Will check for the news reports. I will talk about this on my radio show. stevenleser Jan 2014 #281

yes. bless your heart. I did. Thank you. Take care. roguevalley Jan 2014 #285

Here is the link to my post about the show where I discuss this stevenleser Jan 2014 #293

thank you. I will go there. I am at the hospital having lunch. My niece works roguevalley Jan 2014 #295

Please post a reminder here in GD on Sunday for your show Kaleva Jan 2014 #286

Yes, I definitely will. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #292

HEre you are! stevenleser Jan 2014 #294

I also looked up the damage that scalding water does to skin. stevenleser Jan 2014 #282

I know. I scalded my knee once and couldn't straighten it again for a long roguevalley Jan 2014 #284

I am so shaken by cntrygrl Jan 2014 #129

Horrific story rv, so sad for the victims. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #136

I cry for humanity... defacto7 Jan 2014 #141

"she is so damaged that she won't press charges" A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #147

After reading again... A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #163

He's being deluged with charges. My boy told me about it and there will be more. I will roguevalley Jan 2014 #223

I hope he goes to prison for a long, long time lapislzi Jan 2014 #248

See post #231 below for a couple reports. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #260

update for your questions: He was arrested for both. Charges roguevalley Jan 2014 #279

Another question Android3.14 Jan 2014 #148

she answered the door in her condition. I am sorry for your burns. Burns are the worst. roguevalley Jan 2014 #224

WTF??? Lithos Jan 2014 #149

The story in the OP made me sick to my stomach Gothmog Jan 2014 #151

I don't know what to think... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #158

your son sounds like a fine youngster from a good family. so are the men in my roguevalley Jan 2014 #225

I have no words Stargazer09 Jan 2014 #160

Violent criminals commit violent crimes. 99Forever Jan 2014 #162

but but 'both sides do it!'... Whisp Jan 2014 #164

And another question Android3.14 Jan 2014 #167

I hope it is not true. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #169

Don't worry. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #175

I hope it is a fabrication as well Android3.14 Jan 2014 #176

This is a longstanding DUer... which is why I like to give the benefit of the doubt. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #178

I simply hope it is not true. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #179

Android, you have the option of skipping the post or not believing. Your assertions against roguevalley Jan 2014 #227

Waiting for your public apology to roguevalley. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #247

So, 11 hours after one of the most deliciously EPIC fails I've ever seen, you still haven't Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #258

my wonderful sheldon cooper, he has and told me i could post it. roguevalley Jan 2014 #272

Thank you, RV redqueen Jan 2014 #280

Yes and it all takes time. Third degree burns happen rather rapidly. WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #204

actually, this happened in his home. I am not concerned about your belief. I was told roguevalley Jan 2014 #226

Sounds like a rant platform. NM_Birder Jan 2014 #244

Post #231 has the news report. nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #245

I agree with you completely TNNurse Jan 2014 #170

And I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Brigid Jan 2014 #254

I am 64 TNNurse Jan 2014 #283

Horrific! BellaKos Jan 2014 #177

I'm sorry I think singling out the "male" fact is irrelevant here jimlup Jan 2014 #180

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #183

I'm a white gal living on an Indian reservation liberalhistorian Jan 2014 #187

I'm so glad you brought that up RainDog Jan 2014 #192

They do, indeed, face some of the bleakest situations in the nation, liberalhistorian Jan 2014 #195

Yes. Violence against women correlates with minority status RainDog Jan 2014 #200

Sadly not surprised. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #193

What is wrong, indeed... MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #205

It is all I hope for MrMickeysMom. All of our children are vulnerable. roguevalley Jan 2014 #228

Horrific !!! Tigerram Jan 2014 #222

I think an extreme and rapid climate shift or giant meteorite will kill us first...n/t shedevil69taz Jan 2014 #230

Here are 2 News Reports on it. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #231

And already some asshole makes a nasty attack on the victim. I know the female seaglass Jan 2014 #237

This. One commenter writes" what would you do sufrommich Jan 2014 #239

Sadly they won't cause if anything they invite the trolling :( Locut0s Jan 2014 #274

Thank you. stevenleser Jan 2014 #238

Court case details stevenleser Jan 2014 #250

Potential jail time seems to be 20 years if concurrent and 40 if consecutive stevenleser Jan 2014 #253

This is much less about a hyper sexualized culture and more about a hyper violent culture... Locut0s Jan 2014 #235

Shamelessness for its own sake is not a virtue. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #236

I agree RainDog Jan 2014 #243

You cover a number of points very well Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #259

UPDATE: I am posting it up and down the thread roguevalley Jan 2014 #269

+1 btrflykng9 Feb 2014 #296

I hope everyone who came into this thread to derail it sufrommich Jan 2014 #240

It is interesting to me that this particular story was challenged. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #241

Interesting isn't the word that comes to my mind. nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #242

Predictable? Maybe that is better. Hopefully at least one DUer is very ashamed this morning. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #249

Tragically, it is utterly predictable. redqueen Jan 2014 #262

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #246

I will admit that I had doubts AngryAmish Jan 2014 #251

There is nothing wrong with having doubts. It is the internet after all. I think what matters is seaglass Jan 2014 #291

Agreed. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #255

I agree. I'm shocked that happened in this thread. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #256

I agree. athena Jan 2014 #263

I feel the exact same way. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #290

You should update your post to include the press reports sufrommich Jan 2014 #252

Two recent rape cases got national attention because of the internet Kaleva Jan 2014 #257

I say forget them. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #264

UPDATE: I will, sufrommich. you can also get soldotna news online radio to roguevalley Jan 2014 #270

Thank you for the update,roguevalley.What a horrendous sufrommich Jan 2014 #289

roguevalley--if you hear of anything being done for this woman, like donations, or a fund, msanthrope Jan 2014 #287

it would be my honor to do that. roguevalley Jan 2014 #288