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57. History bits.....111 Held in St. Patrick's AIDS Protest, 1989

Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:48 PM

Jan 2014

While some 4,500 people demonstrated outside St. Patrick's Cathedral yesterday, several dozen disrupted the Mass at 10:15 A.M. to protest John Cardinal O'Connor's recent statements on abortion, homosexuality and AIDS.

Some of the protesters chained themselves to pews inside the cathedral, while others shouted or lay in aisles. ''We will not be silent,'' a protester, Michael Petrelis, 30 years old, screamed before the police arrested him. ''We will fight O'Connor's bigotry,''

The police said 111 people were arrested, including 43 inside the church. Many of the protesters were carried out on stretchers after refusing to stand up. Dozens of protesters blocked traffic on Fifth Avenue by lying in the street. One of them, Annie Hirsch, who said she was 12, leaned from a police bus and said, ''I'm here to tell people that women aren't going to take it any more
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/11/nyregion/111-held-in-st-patrick-s-aids-protest.html

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Churches Protest & Harass Abortion Clinic Patients? Reverse the Tables at Their Churches. [View all] David Zephyr Jan 2014 OP

I would love to see more men involved in clinic defense. bettyellen Jan 2014 #1

bettyellen, I do to do more myself. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #3

I did quite a bit when I was young, and the protesters were vicious to us. We were all women, and bettyellen Jan 2014 #5

They haven't changed they are still vicious except now warrant46 Jan 2014 #7

We need to start protesting at their churches. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #9

The weird thing is, they had a very secretive local presence. They ran a home for those housing some bettyellen Jan 2014 #11

I'm totally ready to start protesting churches....particularly southern baptist republican ones. loudsue Jan 2014 #28

+1 Go Vols Jan 2014 #64

This would be targeting the ones who are pushing the issue of women's rights - churches - but jwirr Jan 2014 #66

Well... eggplant Jan 2014 #69

As we said in the 1960's: Right On, loudsue! David Zephyr Jan 2014 #75

Honored to know you. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #8

Right. I've escorted at Planned Parenthood in Phila. for 20 year. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #26

Thank you for helping all those women. Good on you! bettyellen Jan 2014 #38

Thank you, HERVEPA for all of those years of helping women. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #76

I did it several times back when I lived in Kansas City Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #51

I got the feeling they'd have less courage if there were more men with us. bettyellen Jan 2014 #60

Yeah they were a weird bunch spitting shrieking like the world was going to end Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #63

In KC? You are courageous and are to be honored. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #77

Well, they were...how should I put it?...slightly on the rabid side. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #84

this country has lost it's collective mind spanone Jan 2014 #2

Or perhaps just closed it. n/t kag Jan 2014 #44

k+r blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #4

They wouldn't be jailed if they stay the appropriate way from the church. Ask the Phelps family. Maraya1969 Jan 2014 #6

That's not a bad idea--picketing churches Demeter Jan 2014 #10

I agree wholeheartedly, as long as only the offending churches merrily Jan 2014 #12

are you referring to individual churches, or particular faiths? as far as I am concerned, unless niyad Jan 2014 #14

I know of a couple of pro gay, pro choice churches in my state. merrily Jan 2014 #16

Do the homework. 47of74 Jan 2014 #18

what part of "unless they support a woman's right to choose" did you miss? niyad Jan 2014 #23

This week, I will begin attending a new church. Brigid Jan 2014 #22

see post 23 niyad Jan 2014 #24

The United Methodist Church does not categorically oppose abortion. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #45

Which is why a protest outside this or any other UMC . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #48

Indeed. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #79

Of course, I agree. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #78

did you catch the part where scalia whined that he objected to the woman-hating, anti-choice, niyad Jan 2014 #13

Scalia represents all I don't miss about the Catholic Church 47of74 Jan 2014 #17

From a recovering former Catholic! marew Jan 2014 #40

Thanks, niyad. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #21

and thank you. it isn't surprising that scotus is doing this, with six catholics amoung them. niyad Jan 2014 #25

Again and again, that turd in a black robe and vanity hat speaks out on matters likely to merrily Jan 2014 #81

Thank you for posting theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #15

My first OP in eons. But it's the subject that concerns me the most now. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #82

Not just showing up, but 4_TN_TITANS Jan 2014 #19

It's what they do to poor women. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #86

Six of nine are catholic... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #20

We shouldn't remain outside the churches to protest. kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #27

And any sympathy any of them may have had for you, Brigid Jan 2014 #49

ACT UP did that in NY and in LA, it had great impact and was worth the whining Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #55

I am a native Midwesterner. Brigid Jan 2014 #58

So you claim when a religion says women are murderers and gay people are from hell Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #62

I'm saying . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #68

phelps and co have never gone to jail in all these years. what makes you think it is ever likely niyad Jan 2014 #108

You have this perfectly in the correct context and perspective. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #89

Yes. ACT UP didn't "behave" and it forced the issue. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #88

patterson poo- flinging princple eepatt Jan 2014 #67

Freedom of speech. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #87

What a great idea. WCLinolVir Jan 2014 #29

They sure love to dish it out, but can't take it when push back comes. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #90

amen brother! Maineman Jan 2014 #30

Anti-abortion groups are seriously disturbed people. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #31

Yes, and imagine the indignation and fear that girls and women are facing everyday in America. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #91

I like that idea Egnever Jan 2014 #32

Welcome to the Talibornagain States of America dgibby Jan 2014 #33

This post is important. raven mad Jan 2014 #34

The anti-abortion crowd is ignorant about what Planned Parenthood really does. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #42

The Supreme Court apparently thinks it's no big deal from their comments. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #93

A belated welcome to DU Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #106

Thanks for the welcome - I already love it here! raven mad Jan 2014 #109

Soup kitchens on the sidewalks of the church while they are in jtuck004 Jan 2014 #35

I love it. nt Doremus Jan 2014 #61

You are brilliant. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #94

Naw, I've just read Saul Alinsky on tactics for organizers. jtuck004 Jan 2014 #104

what a nifty idea! niyad Jan 2014 #107

k/r Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #36

Ah, but then you'd be "persecuting Christians" Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #37

That is the most likely outcome and the most irritating one cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #39

What would such an activity achieve other than to alienate religious people? JDPriestly Jan 2014 #41

When they shove their beliefs in my face they need to be alienated. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #43

See my Post # 45. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #46

I didn't say protest at ALL churches. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #50

Yes, you do. And it's why they get away with oppressing women. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #95

If they get near you tell them you are fearful and will "Stand Your Ground" and see what they do. Bandit Jan 2014 #47

Having a 4 year old yelling, "Don't TOUCH me" HockeyMom Jan 2014 #59

Well, that's certainly a wonderful idea HERVEPA Jan 2014 #83

be a hard thing to do in practice... cap Jan 2014 #52

No such thing in the US, kiddo. That's why the other side can do what they do. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #56

Thanks. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #96

What "hate speech" laws? jberryhill Jan 2014 #103

Discrimination against race color or creed is in EEOC cap Feb 2014 #110

Wtf? jberryhill Feb 2014 #111

Harass them at Opus Dei meetings. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #53

Pick the church carefully and it would be a good idea treestar Jan 2014 #54

History bits.....111 Held in St. Patrick's AIDS Protest, 1989 Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #57

Thanks, Bluenorthwest for the history and link. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #97

the buffer zone is there because these people are dangerous and the Supremes, mountain grammy Jan 2014 #65

Right on, mountain granny! David Zephyr Jan 2014 #98

Nope, wrong venue. They love to carry grotesque, full color posters to clinics. freshwest Jan 2014 #70

As one who has had to deal with these protesters Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #71

It's really psychological and physical violence against women and it's orchestrated. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #99

I definitely is psychological violence. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #105

These fine conservative Catholic Supremes would do the Taliban proud imo: they would also do any indepat Jan 2014 #72

Thank you. I wish more men had realized that the patriarchal wagons started circling 'round women ancianita Jan 2014 #73

The turnback against women's rights did really start under Reagan. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #100

It has been done. quaker bill Jan 2014 #74

See Bluenorthwest's post above. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #101

Better to cut off their cash flow. riqster Jan 2014 #80

RW Christian War Crimes in Bosnia: 'The rapes went on day and night': Robert Fisk, in Mostar, Zorra Jan 2014 #85

Thank you, Zorra. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #102

god damned straight, david. thank you so much for making this important point. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #92