Some thoughts on the new Pope, his influence in the world, and here at DU.

[NCTraveler]

40. And I do personally see it as a big move.

My op was about more than that and how the conversation is conducted here and elsewhere in society. Your post is actually what I am talking about. At no point did I or have I said that his positive rhetoric shouldn't be recognized. What needs to be understood by all is that the hate of this Pope and the hierarchy of the church is so great toward some that their thoughts on the Pope are fair and real. Their rights are our rights and this Pope cannot be touted as "good" when he promotes hatred.

Two points:
1) You freely admit this Pope has great influence. "for a billion people to get an anti-capitalist message from the top is no small thing."

2) Imagine how you would feel if he was using this influence to generate hate and turn society against you.

Point number two is why it is more than acceptable for many to never recognize this Pope as positive in any way. It is why you won't see me in many threads fawning over the new Popes rhetoric. These people he is attacking are our friends and neighbors.