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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Rude Pundit: Man Who Shot Movie Theater Texter Is Using "Stand Your Ground" Defense ... [View all]
Because Of Course He IsSo, yeah, ha, ha, we'd all like to shoot the dumbasses who text in the dark of the movie theater, so it's easy, at first blush, to call 68-year old retired cop Curtis Reeves, Jr. "America's Greatest Hero" for gunning the shit out of Chad Oulson in Florida because the 43-year old apparently thought his convenience was more important than the enjoyment of the rest of the audience. Then you hear that this was during the previews, not during the showing of jingoistic war porn, Lone Survivor (because, again, of course that was the film they were seeing).
Then you hear that Reeves had already complained to the management about Oulson and then confronted Oulson when the younger man asked him if he had complained. And then Oulson threw his popcorn at Reeves. And then Reeves shot Oulson and his wife. Yeah, texting during a movie is bullshit. But this is about about how unsafe we are under the rein of concealed carry laws, which means that there is an implied threat everywhere you go, not about what inconsiderate dicks do in the dark. Being a douche is not a crime punishable by death.
Now, it being Florida and Florida being ground zero for the lie that is the Stand Your Ground law, which allows a person to kill the fuck out of someone if he or she feels threatened, Reeves has indicated that he is going to claim the kind of ex post facto, pre-crime mindreading that forms the legal basis for the application of Stand Your Ground. That's also known as "getting away with murder."
See, Oulson beaning Reeves with popcorn meets the legal definition of assault. Reeves said he feared getting attacked. However, you shouldn't be allowed to fire a bullet into the chest of someone using popcorn as a weapon. But this is America, motherfucker. And that means we get to have lawyers actually say things like "
What did big, threatening, strapping young Chad Oulson look like that a former cop thought he couldn't take? Surely, this was a muscular biker type, probably with tattoos and a do-rag, and his wife was some tramp-stamped meth whore. Who wouldn't be threatened by...what?

Oh. And he had a toddler daughter? And his wife loved him so much that she tried to block the shot, injuring her hand in the process?
So what happened is that a psychotic old pussy had a gun and a grudge against the world. Reeves was itching to shoot someone, and Oulson just got to be the one who finally took the bullet. The Rude Pundit's said it before and he'll say it until you pry this keyboard from his cold, dead fingers: Only cops, cowards, and criminals carry concealed weapons. If you're not a cop (retired doesn't count), you're one of the other two.
The Pasco County Sheriff's department doesn't think that Reeves can claim Stand Your Ground as a defense. Surely, he could have walked away after taking popcorn in the kisser. But the point of Stand Your Ground is that you don't have to walk away, right? Even if you're the one who's wrong, you are allowed to just shoot someone rather than suck it up and walk away, like a fucking grown-up should in nearly every situation.
Don't worry, though. It's Florida. A jury of Reeves' peers will no doubt make the sensible decision, as they always do in these cases.
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meegbear
Jan 2014
OP
Especially if the story about the prior incident in this same theater is true. Just like Zimmerman.
jwirr
Jan 2014
#15
It is here on DU somewhere. The retired policeman apparently got into the face of a couple who
jwirr
Jan 2014
#49
thank you for that link. so many of the comments after it are absolutely disgusting. noticed
niyad
Jan 2014
#125
K&R. Looking forward to the usual weasal-word responses from the pro-gun crowd. (nt)
Paladin
Jan 2014
#7
And meaningless points of inquiry that go to the brand, caliber, type of ammunition, etc.
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2014
#56
Like I've said before: the "clip" vs. "magazine" thing didn't become an issue.......
Paladin
Jan 2014
#108
It Astounds Me That No One Objects to Hitting An Old Man In the Face During An Argument
cer7711
Jan 2014
#47
And I'm taking great pains to tell you that 10% is ridiculous, with all due respect
kcr
Jan 2014
#74
"the argument escalates". Has there benn info released on that? Without more info, it is not
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#96
We have found agreement, it appears both were foolish, I think the cop was much more foolish. n/t
A Simple Game
Jan 2014
#71
It is easy to take sides from afar and more-so easy to sum it all up passing judgment.
Wash. state Desk Jet
Jan 2014
#42
What do you think of the witness reports that the old man returned "more agitated"...
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2014
#46
I'm confused. "Man who shot confrontational, popcorn-throwing theater texter..."
Moonwalk
Jan 2014
#94
the whole thing could have been avoided if the entitled jerk (aka, the shooter) had just changed
niyad
Jan 2014
#126
There are times I think we've lost all sense of proportion in this country.
malthaussen
Jan 2014
#20
By and large, they are even less likely to commit a crime if they leave the darn thing home.
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#57
Bullshit statistic, there are not even a fraction of that many cases of self defense with a gun
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#76
So a person deserves to get pumped full of lead because he threw popcorn at someone?
Vashta Nerada
Jan 2014
#81
Zimmerman would fall in that inflated count. Same old crud from the pro-gun crowd.
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#59
dear penthouse forum, i had a DGU while engaged in a threesome with 2 swedish models..
frylock
Jan 2014
#87
Yes, it's very, very important to blame the victim for the shooter over-reacting.
jeff47
Jan 2014
#116