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In reply to the discussion: How to torment telemarketers [View all]Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)173. No. They simply call random numbers without caring what kind of phone it is.
You think lying, caller-ID-spoofing criminals would really pay good money to a cellphone provider for a list of numbers when they can have their computer auto-dial hundreds of randomly generated numbers per minute and get flagged when someone picks one of these calls up?
Here's a link to the FCC site so that you can learn about how these things work:
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/unwanted-telephone-marketing-calls
Automatic Telephone Dialing Systems and Artificial or Prerecorded Voice Calls
The FCC has specific rules for automatic telephone dialing systems, also known as autodialers. These devices can be particularly annoying and generate many consumer complaints. The rules regarding automatically dialed and prerecorded calls apply whether or not you have registered your home phone number(s) on the national Do-Not-Call list.
Autodialers can produce, store and dial telephone numbers using a random or sequential number generator. They often place artificial (computerized) or prerecorded voice calls. The use of autodialers, including predictive dialers, often results in abandoned calls hang-ups or dead air.
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Yes, how progressive. And someone posts this kind of crap about every other month on DU.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#251
When these assholes con artists who ignore the do not call list learn compassion, so
B Calm
Jan 2014
#261
These "assholes con artists" don't "ignore" the do not call list, don't you GET it?
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#302
Your right it didn't sound loud. I would chuckle and one of the girls would ask
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#105
Does it sound anything like that horn that begins the 'you've won a cruise' call?
polly7
Jan 2014
#217
Give the phone to a three year old. That's what we did last time during a birthday party.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jan 2014
#3
These are great, because I'm sure that the call center employees need more bullshit in their jobs
Orrex
Jan 2014
#6
I see you dodged the question. Please don't tell me that you worked for "Rachel" (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#175
Well the first requrement would be to ask. The company is called Stream International and all they
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#319
So I named the company and you're not interested anymore. You feel you are better qualified to
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#322
If I come right out and call you a liar, then someone will hit the Alert button.
Orrex
Jan 2014
#323
You already have, several times and I couldn't care less. I do think that most DUers that might be
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#324
Often I will receive calls with anonymous as the caller and anonymous as the location.
RebelOne
Jan 2014
#143
There you go now your talking!! That's what I'm trying to tell everyone pretty much
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#114
That's it - torture the low wage workers trying to feed their family & keep a roof over their heads
baldguy
Jan 2014
#12
These people are CRIMINALS. Violating the DNC list and cold-calling cellphones is a CRIME.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#33
And I bet you moan & cry when you get crappy customer service from your cell provider too.
baldguy
Jan 2014
#56
Being frustrated gives you license to be an asshole? That's an excuse for a child.
baldguy
Jan 2014
#79
Spoofing the caller ID is not legal. Neither is lying and pretending that you represent Visa
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#157
I can't believe that anyone really spends as much time and effort on this as you do.
Orrex
Jan 2014
#272
So how many posts is that since your promised "last post" on this subject (post #195)?
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#276
Three, including this one. I didn't expect your campaign of silliness to continue
Orrex
Jan 2014
#287
When it's a human on the other end of the line, politeness is the decent thing to do.
lapislzi
Jan 2014
#238
Unless you have an existing business relationship, telephone solicitation is illegal.
kristopher
Jan 2014
#30
The normal business hrs for someone working the graveyard shift is Midnight to 8 AM
B Calm
Jan 2014
#27
Reputable companies do. But not the criminal scum of "Cardholder Services" and their ilk (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#222
The difference is, the grocery clerk is a legitimate worker, but these telemarketers are criminals,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#45
Did you work for a reputable company that respected the DNC list, did not spoof caller ID,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#41
I second that one. I was called HUNDREDS of times by these guys; and nothing stopped them
Brettongarcia
Jan 2014
#282
Yes they were reputable. I was on strike at the Steel Mill I worked at. I did telemarketing for 4
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#89
Oh ok I see what you mean. We were being monitored by QA at random anyways. But no
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#124
Because they are CRIMINALS. They violate the DNC list, they cold-call cellphones which is illegal,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#46
Actually it doesn't. You think these criminals go to the trouble of maintaining their own DNC list,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#70
The workers don't choose which numbers to call. They're automatic dialed for them. The company
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#250
The more of their time I waste, the less time they have to rip off Alzheimer's sufferers,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#87
Again. The time they spend on the phone with me is time that they are not ripping people off (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#112
Check out post 75 in this thread for an example of an Alzheimer's sufferer being ripped off.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#153
Look, I hate to break this to you, but you really have no sense of how things work.
Orrex
Jan 2014
#162
The point is that while each individual participant has a small effect on the larger outcome,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#220
Just say NOT INTERESTED and hang up. This is about the 10th time I have said this but Noooo!!
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#244
Any evidence that is the norm in the industry? Because if not, I can make the same charge that
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#305
The criminal lying scum simply ignore the DNC list. Also, they illegally cold-call cellphones.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#76
If they're calling your cell phone, then your cell phone provider sold it to them.
baldguy
Jan 2014
#172
No. They simply call random numbers without caring what kind of phone it is.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#173
Most of those autodialers and robocallers at the end of their message ask you to push 1 or 2,
B Calm
Jan 2014
#178
My son, who is bi-polar, worked as a telemarketer because it was the only job he could get.
OregonBlue
Jan 2014
#80
The criminals that we are talking about in this thread will simply hang up and ignore your request,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#93
No. All the time they spent talking to me they were not ripping off an Alzheimer's sufferer (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#151
Characterizing every call center worker as "ripping off an Alzheimer's sufferer" is insanity.
baldguy
Jan 2014
#164
Not "every call center worker". Just the "Rachel from Card Services" type criminals (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#167
You're characterizing every call center worker as a criminal, subject to vile treatment
baldguy
Jan 2014
#191
I'm sorry if I did not make it clear that I do not have a problem with legitimate telemarketers.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#196
People who hate low-wage workers because they're low-wage workers are not Democrats.
baldguy
Jan 2014
#159
Not an uncommon tactic on DU. "No *real* Democrat would disagree with my point!" (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#160
If you're getting your kicks doing childish tricks to low-wage workers, you need to get a life. nt
raccoon
Jan 2014
#96
Not so much "getting kicks" as "wasting their time so they have less time to rip people off".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#100
I answer by speaking in a phony foriegn language. Gibberish from the country of Gib.
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#108
As a young single mom, I worked telephones for market research for 3 years...
ScreamingMeemie
Jan 2014
#120
But you were working for a legitimate company, not "Rachel from Card Services".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#123
The scammers being discussed here are criminals who totally disregard the DNC,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#136
The callers being discussed here lie to people and attempt to get their credit card number
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#137
It is very clear that this is meant to be an indictment on all telemarketers.
NCTraveler
Jan 2014
#161
I would not abuse an ordinary TM, but when that little bastard calls saying he is from Microsoft
CBGLuthier
Jan 2014
#135
Oh, I have never got one of those calls but I would *so* waste the guy's time.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#142
Those are the ones I've been getting lately, from "the technical support department"
Fozzledick
Jan 2014
#187
I just tell those 'tech support' scammers that I have "national security information"
SeattleVet
Jan 2014
#259
Telemarketing is not a job that most people take by choice. There's no need to get ugly
Arkansas Granny
Jan 2014
#152
I worked and raised 4 kids by myself. Does that equal a 24 hour shift?
Arkansas Granny
Jan 2014
#212
Oh yea I got that too. I am straight but I had Men and Women trying to hit on me.
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#201
I've been trying to tell everyone that for 4 hours but no one will listen.
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#210
If you don't want what they're selling, use it as an opportunity to get something that YOU want...
Ian David
Jan 2014
#207
Plus you are not tormenting them at all. Another call comes in via a computer and you are forgotten
ArnoldLayne
Jan 2014
#213
as soon as I figure out they're selling something, I say I'm not interested and hang up
yurbud
Jan 2014
#242
Someone needs to write the troll app for phones. Generic comments everytime the caller stops talking
Taitertots
Jan 2014
#252
YES. Ignoring the DNC list, spoofing caller ID, and lying to try to get credit card numbers
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#269
That is their problem. Your actions are your issue. Don't lay your shit on me, dude.
Tuesday Afternoon
Jan 2014
#270
Before you get them really angry, consider that many are state prison inmates
JPZenger
Jan 2014
#267
Telemarketing is a rude and unwarranted invasion of privacy for profit, and should be illegal. nt
Zorra
Jan 2014
#277
Yeah, right. I'm sure that your harrassment of minimum wage workers was what did the trick.
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#306