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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
72. You know
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jan 2014

"In which countries will jobs be created?
What kind of jobs will be created?
Who will be eligible to apply for these jobs?
How much will these jobs pay? "

...they say there is nothing like a silly question, but sometimes I question that notion.

Do you have a link to an existing Obama proposal that supported job-creation overseas? I mean, he's put forward a number of proposals, and some even involved enforcing trade agreements to protect American jobs.

Obama Announces Institute to Create Manufacturing Jobs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024336479

Obama Admin Wins Trade Complaint Against China At WTO

by TomP

Good timing for the speech today in Ohio.

GENEVA/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Washington won a major victory in an election-year dispute against China on Monday when a WTO ruling found China had discriminated against U.S. bank card suppliers in favor of a state-owned enterprise that enjoys an illegal monopoly.

The decision by a World Trade Organization dispute panel said Beijing was breaking WTO rules by requiring all yuan-denominated payment cards issued in China to work with the network belonging to China UnionPay (CUP), as well as requiring every merchant and ATM to accept CUP's cards.

<...>

White House spokesman Jay Carney called the ruling a "win" that showed "our determination to go after China's efforts to distort global trade rules".

"That is precisely why 3.5 years into the president's first term we have doubled the rate of WTO cases against China, versus the prior administration
," he told reporters aboard Air Force One.

cnbc

This means a few more jobs:

US Trade Representative (USTR) Ron Kirk said the victory in the World Trade Organization dispute would allow US companies to compete on a level playing field with China's own company, China Union Pay, which has dominated the EPS market.

"The WTO panel agrees that China's pervasive and discriminatory measures deny a level playing field to American service providers, which are world leaders in this sector," Kirk said.

"This decision will help US companies and increase American jobs as a more efficient credit and debit payment system in China enables consumers to buy more goods, including quality, made-in-America products," he said.

According to industry estimates, the United States will gain 6,000 jobs related to electronic payment services, the Obama administration said.

- more -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/16/1110564/-Obama-Admin-Wins-Trade-Complaint-Against-China-At-WTO


WTO Upholds Obama’s Tire Industry Relief Decision

The World Trade Organization’s (WTO’s) Appellate Body yesterday upheld President Obama’s decision based on U.S. trade law to provide relief for American tire industry workers against surging imports from China of passenger and light truck tires.

In September 2009, Obama became the first president to enforce U.S. trade law when he imposed tariffs to protect domestic workers against a surge in tire imports from China. The original complaint came from the United Steelworkers (USW), and Obama’s decision led to a rebound in the tire industry.

http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/09/06/wto-upholds-obamas-tire-industry-relief-decision/


Partnering with Local Communities: The First Five “Promise Zones”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024336479#post30

Maybe, he'll reintroduce this proposal:

The Jobs Program That Wasn’t

Macroeconomic Advisers on the American Jobs Act, proposed a year ago:

We estimate that the American Jobs Act (AJA), if enacted, would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.

-The various tax cuts aimed at raising workers’ after-tax income and encouraging hiring and investing, combined with the spending increases aimed at maintaining state & local employment and funding infrastructure modernization, would:
-Boost the level of GDP by 1.3% by the end of 2012, and by 0.2% by the end of 2013.
-Raise nonfarm establishment employment by 1.3 million by the end of 2012 and 0.8 million by the end of 2013, relative to the baseline

Of course, it that had happened, Obama would be more or less a lock for reelection. Instead, having blocked the president’s economic plans, Republicans can point to weak job growth and claim that the president’s policies have failed.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/the-jobs-program-that-wasnt/

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It says... Atman Jan 2014 #1
yep. among other things. cali Jan 2014 #2
It's corporatist to the core, and has been since day one. jsr Jan 2014 #7
It says the corporations are getting their money's worth Trailrider1951 Jan 2014 #3
Reminds me of the ACA negotiations? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #4
Right down to Baucus running the show for the Democrats. bullwinkle428 Jan 2014 #20
And there's still time to have some people arrested! solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #30
Precisely...............nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #98
Corporations rule the earth. jsr Jan 2014 #5
In with a K&R.....before spin control arrives. marmar Jan 2014 #6
It says that we have the best government corporations can buy! B Calm Jan 2014 #8
Exactly. polichick Jan 2014 #22
In the hierarchy of entities, artificial ones trump natural ones. --nt CrispyQ Jan 2014 #9
Where ProSense Jan 2014 #10
fail. do you even read your own links? cali Jan 2014 #12
LOL! No links of your own? ProSense Jan 2014 #23
Did you read her links? Because I see stuff there that refutes your OP. 100%. phleshdef Jan 2014 #32
Of course I read her links. NOTHING THERE REFUTES MY CLAIM cali Jan 2014 #34
Bullshit. phleshdef Jan 2014 #35
bullshit back at you.l cali Jan 2014 #38
I did look at the advisory members. phleshdef Jan 2014 #41
No employees' union representation here. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #42
So are you defending the "fast tracking" of the TPP? nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #90
She is refuting a bogus claim. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #131
She didnt rufute anything. She was merely pointing out that the OP may have rhett o rick Jan 2014 #137
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #138
LOL if you like, the rudeness doesnt bother me. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #139
Rudeness? So sensitive, such the victim ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #141
Again you try to deflect from the original discussion. I can see it's impossible to get you rhett o rick Jan 2014 #142
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #143
Why are you reluctant to explain why you support the TPP? nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #144
I don't know enough about it to express support or opposition ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #145
Interesting that none of those that disparage the opposition to the agreement will actually rhett o rick Jan 2014 #146
In your opinion ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #147
You seem to want to argue about anything except the actual TPP. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #148
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #149
Sorry, but Krusty dont play that game. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #150
Just admit you were wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #152
Excuse me ...I voted for someone with a (D) behind their name. L0oniX Jan 2014 #11
Yes, I think they do need us PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #39
Agreed, this tent has gotten way too big Broward Jan 2014 #86
"They need purged from the party". jtuck004 Jan 2014 #95
What are we going to do about it? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #13
We are going to reelect them even when they promise to do it again. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #14
We do that every election. RC Jan 2014 #15
It's what we do so we can feel like we are making a difference. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #19
I walk to my voting place and back. RC Jan 2014 #21
Post more unsubstantiated claims. ProSense Jan 2014 #24
Provocative comment, PS. Do you want it stopped? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #25
If it's going to destroy the country, yes. ProSense Jan 2014 #28
"proposing measures to create jobs and fight poverty" TBF Jan 2014 #59
Comment makes no sense. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #62
lol - to you it wouldn't. TBF Jan 2014 #63
Look ProSense Jan 2014 #64
Answer the questions: TBF Jan 2014 #70
You know ProSense Jan 2014 #72
Just as I expected - TBF Jan 2014 #74
LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #76
It's not invisible, it just doesn't say anything tkmorris Jan 2014 #78
What you mean ProSense Jan 2014 #80
It's all talk. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #87
Gee, ProSense Jan 2014 #89
+ a shit load......nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #101
Every link goes back to Cali's OP - TBF Jan 2014 #88
+1 a significant amount! Enthusiast Jan 2014 #100
We should be imposing more tariffs on goods from China. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #85
That is exactly right. We should enact more tariffs on goods from China. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #102
Wrong! That comment makes perfect sense. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #99
Exactly! ctsnowman Jan 2014 #126
Please read my post # 42 in response to your post. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #43
I read it, and ProSense Jan 2014 #53
I find it interesting that some here, when backed into a corner, resort to the ridicule emoticon. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #79
What's ProSense Jan 2014 #81
Your play at naivete is "interesting". nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #83
LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #84
Interesting? It's downright pathetic. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #103
But it's what we have to fight against. The belief that a "good" authoritarian god rhett o rick Jan 2014 #108
I think conservative Democrats Enthusiast Jan 2014 #125
You know what's "pathetic" ProSense Jan 2014 #111
I am curious why you support this secret trade agreement? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #140
Picture diary coming in 3 - 2 - 1 ... blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #113
Shameful. Brickbat Jan 2014 #16
11 dimensions of deception. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #115
Too much.... daleanime Jan 2014 #17
So once more... davidthegnome Jan 2014 #18
One Way Out And It Is Not The "Third Way" colsohlibgal Jan 2014 #26
It says that corporations rule the US as well as the world. City Lights Jan 2014 #27
UGH MoonRiver Jan 2014 #29
It says actions speak louder than words SHRED Jan 2014 #31
It says nothing because it isn't true. phleshdef Jan 2014 #33
LIE blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #116
Here are Prosense's links that she falsely claims refutes my op: cali Jan 2014 #36
Sorry, but Prosense is right. subterranean Jan 2014 #40
Add up the environmental and trade union and consumer representatives and they are JDPriestly Jan 2014 #44
Trade and good labor policy are not mutually exclusive. The experience of progressive pampango Jan 2014 #47
Tell that to President Obama. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #49
Trade is good for everyone, if (IF) you have a progressive tax policy, legal support for unions and pampango Jan 2014 #54
A "service" economy means most jobs are "service" jobs. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #58
Service jobs are not interchangeable. Plumbers, mechanics, lawyers, engineers. There are so many pampango Jan 2014 #65
You can impose tariffs on imports. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #92
No we can't. FDR made it very difficult for countries to unilaterally impose tariffs. pampango Jan 2014 #93
Thanks for shedding light on this treestar Jan 2014 #136
Give it up. ProSense Jan 2014 #50
Why bother? When confronted with facts, you refuse to read them and play the ad hominem card. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #55
You apparently believe saying anything makes it so. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #56
Yeah, cause HUD "hates teh President" and is just trying to make him look bad. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #57
WTF does HUD have to do with the OP? ProSense Jan 2014 #60
Just the most recent example of your condition. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #66
Again, what the hell does HUD have to do with this thread? ProSense Jan 2014 #67
Kicky-poo. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #68
I think we will next see phase C. Phase A is baffle 'em with links. Phase B is use every logical rhett o rick Jan 2014 #110
I've found the devolution from true believer, to hack, to parody to be fascinating. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #123
and of course bobduca Jan 2014 #151
How sad that you consider that it's a positive that she refutes that we are going to get 20 lashes rhett o rick Jan 2014 #109
As if that inaccuracy level completely disproves the OP and the likely consequence of their work?nt ancianita Jan 2014 #121
Rather than arguing against the obvious ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #133
Agreed. subterranean Jan 2014 #135
The 'father of capitalism' though this sort of thing was a bad idea... JHB Jan 2014 #37
Yeah. Surprised? The lockout has been going on for decades librechik Jan 2014 #45
The Democratic Party was co-opted some time ago. That explains their fetish with "bipartisanship," blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #117
Exactly the same thing it has said for over five years now. Thanks for the vote, sucker. - GSA Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #46
Maybe not even "Thanks for the vote" polichick Jan 2014 #52
That says all that needs to be said. Autumn Jan 2014 #48
USCA, United States of Corporate America n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #51
TPP MUST be defeated - TBF Jan 2014 #61
Yeah, I'm sure BHO will change horses mid-race. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #118
He's doing the job he was hired to do - TBF Jan 2014 #128
AT THE CONCLUSION OF NEGOTIATIONS THE NAMED ARE INVITED TO COMMENT. djean111 Jan 2014 #69
"It's just business - nothing personal" nt TBF Jan 2014 #71
Yep. So is my vote. djean111 Jan 2014 #73
... TBF Jan 2014 #75
when they claim transparency... ReasonableToo Jan 2014 #77
How very fascist. nt stillwaiting Jan 2014 #82
That's a word that more people should start using. polichick Jan 2014 #91
It tells me Obama is a corporatist trojan horse lark Jan 2014 #94
+1 blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #119
"What does that say?" It says something very ugly about Enthusiast Jan 2014 #96
Chris Christie sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #97
I hope he's not in charge of bridges. nt TBF Jan 2014 #104
Naw, just road cone policy. sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #106
This shouldn't be a surprise... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #105
Smoke and mirrors. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #120
k and r senseandsensibility Jan 2014 #107
HOPE! blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #112
Sort of like the advisors on the ACA. Nobody but the insurance companies Cleita Jan 2014 #114
K&R woo me with science Jan 2014 #122
It says: DeSwiss Jan 2014 #124
Fascism. nt valerief Jan 2014 #127
I see the usual shills are here defending the indefensible. nt GoneFishin Jan 2014 #129
The DU Globalists always appear in these kind of threads. B Calm Jan 2014 #153
President Obama is bought and paid for by the PTB. n/t Hotler Jan 2014 #130
I'm stunned; absolutely numb from shock. nt Zorra Jan 2014 #132
It says that the government is captured by corporations blackspade Jan 2014 #134
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