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In reply to the discussion: My Wife Believes American Workers Being Positioned To Accept Lower Living Standard. [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)26. The politicians don't think. They just do as they are told by their betters.
And their "betters", our Masters, want us to support the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed. They scheme 24x7, (they call what they do "work" , devising ways by which we are put into debt, and upon that debt we pay an ever growing tax, partly interest, and partly what they tell us they deserve, which is also growing, as if they get more deserving every day. The Masters collect that tax with our help. Some of us help more than others. The Masters don't really care, the Masters don't really care, what we argue about, whether we kill each other, who we marry, where we ride on the bus, whether the police beat us or we beat the police.
All they care about is their tax. And they mean to have it.
We call ourselves "free" to live this life because we can't see the chains, but they bind us tighter than any metal. (Some say they have no debt, and are thus free, but we are all dependent on one another, so they aren't, not really). We have the key, and we could release ourselves from them anytime we choose by no longer supporting their lifestyle. We would have to walk away from the Master's house, and the bed he gives us (which he took from us in the first place) and the food he lets us keep, and walk into a great unknown, where we would have to learn to rely on one another, learn to do for ourselves what has been done for us for too long.
The unknown part scares us, of course. I wonder how much of that is our understanding that we would have to rely on one another?
So we continue to trust the Master, who is more devious, venal, and evil and dangerous to us than any bigot, pedophile, homophobe, duck-call carver, murderer, misogynist, smoker or devil we have ever known. We talk amongst ourselves of a revolution by people who don't know anything about revolutions. And we dream of a day when we are free.
We is a funny lot.
I read the other day a quote. "But one of the worst results of being a slave and being forced to do things is that when there is no one to force you any more you find you have almost lost the power of forcing yourself.
― C.S. Lewis, The Horse and His Boy "
We aren't forced, though. We follow willingly. What would happen if we took the reins away and held them ourselves? Would we choose a direction, take off and run any old way, or just stand there?
I think your wife is perceptive, and perhaps "they" need to be challenged a bit more on just exactly who these slackers are. Because all I see are people who would love to work, if there were jobs, with the small qualification that they would like to be treated like human beings.
We aren't broke, btw. We are just focusing on the wrong deficit. The one we ought to be taking on is the trade deficit. We could adjust the balance with the people who our jobs were sold to anytime we want, if we worked together. Our prices would go up, our houses would be smaller, we would have less, the retirees would scream, and people like Mi$$ RobMe would scream louder than anyone. (The contract for healthcare.gov would go in the trash, btw, and Accenture would be out on their ass with all their outsourced jobs. Sorry if anyone works there, but you should choose better employers. The upside - if you are not here on an H1-B visa, perhaps you could get a job with a company that cares about the people who live here. After all, you have experience).
Our jobs would come back, and we could rebuild, maybe this time along the model of how the Industrial Unions suggested we start, before they were killed off. It would take $30 or $40 trillion to accomplish it, but we make our own money here, so that isn't as great a problem as one would imagine. For most of us it really wouldn't mean a lot (compared to the horror that lies ahead if we don't), though it would lower the value of the money for those that have a lot of it. But as long as we are worrying about their concerns, we can't lose those chains.
And thank your wife for the heads-up.
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My Wife Believes American Workers Being Positioned To Accept Lower Living Standard. [View all]
TheMastersNemesis
Jan 2014
OP
As the unions go, so goes the worker. United We Thrive, Divided We Beg...have seen this somewhere
libdem4life
Jan 2014
#1
It used to take one income to raise a family and keep up a home. Now two, and given the cost of
libdem4life
Jan 2014
#79
Yes, unions are our only hope. One blip in history in which a middle class boomed
gtar100
Jan 2014
#127
Great point. With Taft-Hartley and it 'right-to-work' unions are undercut at every turn. Countries
pampango
Jan 2014
#144
Reagan hyper-accelerated the decline. But it started under Nixon with the start of the decline
bluestate10
Jan 2014
#114
This is exactly the plan. It is a fact. I have worked around and been around very powerful people
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#5
The global corporate fat cats aren't competing with their workers anymore, but each other. Sky's the
freshwest
Jan 2014
#11
Yeah. The profit is what keeps the business alive. I realize it has to be a profit that keeps up
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#105
We need to stop the trade deals while we can. That is the only hope for us to live decently.
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#17
This is a great thread. Globalization means world wide leveling of living standards for the lower
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#100
"They do not know what it is like to have to walk miles at a time for supplies"
CrispyQ
Jan 2014
#98
Food riots. Is that what it's gonna take to wake people up from their iWhatever bliss?
CrispyQ
Jan 2014
#95
It's good to occasionally read such frank, clear headed pieces/replies. Thank you.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#91
What we forget about countries like China and India is that there is a finite amount of time where
okaawhatever
Jan 2014
#96
Classic Reagan Era crap. Claim the boss would LOVE to give you a raise but can't afford it.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jan 2014
#15
it is almost he logical conclusion of, "How are we going to compete with China?'
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#21
You completely missed the posters point. Europe and Asia was constantly in major wars
bluestate10
Jan 2014
#116
What Reagan And The GOP Have Done Is Crystal Clear. Yet The GOP Is Still Viable.
TheMastersNemesis
Jan 2014
#35
Think of that car ad where a car brings a baby home and is later given to her as a graduation gift.
bklyncowgirl
Jan 2014
#46
NO, that is NOT what you said. You said BG is a "conspiracy". You jumped in here so, please...
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#71
and you have heard about the possible new law in Wisconsin......a 7 DAY WORK WEEK....
a kennedy
Jan 2014
#57
There are roughly 4 billion "bottom of the pyramid" workers that unskilled Americans compete with
FarCenter
Jan 2014
#61
I agree with her but the powers that be had better understand that we the people will not agree to
jwirr
Jan 2014
#70
Yes, Americans WILL allow themselves to be left homeless, hungry, etc. Indeed, we already
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#73
She is correct. They want us to compete for our jobs with the Chinese labor force.
OregonBlue
Jan 2014
#78
The op reminds me of a conservation I had with my dad who's very conservative back in the 90s,
deafskeptic
Jan 2014
#86
When most of are reduced to living like this then we will be able to compete.
ctsnowman
Jan 2014
#109
'we need to bring the US wages more in line with the Chinese Grassley(R-IA-BCBS)
IADEMO2004
Jan 2014
#125
Since the Members of Congress do nothing and get nothing constructive done.....
democratisphere
Jan 2014
#128
They want high unemployment so wages stay down and workers stay desperate.
Skeeter Barnes
Jan 2014
#130
Wife Believes American Workers Being Positioned To Accept Lower Living Standards
blkmusclmachine
Jan 2014
#131
I Did - We Both Have Felt This Way About The Economy For A Long Time.
TheMastersNemesis
Jan 2014
#139
Yes. It explains the wilfull destruction of the public school system, and allowing the
Arugula Latte
Jan 2014
#138