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In reply to the discussion: It Has Been Said Here, That The Brutal Take Down Of Occupy Is Hyperbole... [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)130. Thanks, WillyT. This is why they brutalized peaceful Occupy protesters:
As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power.
"We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of ones skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save peoples lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.*
"To the people of the world,
"We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.
"We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.
They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of ones skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save peoples lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts.*
"To the people of the world,
"We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.
We want another world, and such a world is possible:
1. The economy must be put to the service of people's welfare, and to support and serve the environment, not private profit. We want a system where labour is appreciated by its social utility, not its financial or commercial profit. Therefore, we demand:
2. To achieve these objectives, we believe that the economy should be run democratically at all levels, from local to global. People must get democratic control over financial institutions, transnational corporations and their lobbies. To this end, we demand:
3. We believe that political systems must be fully democratic. We therefore demand full democratisation of international institutions, and the elimination of the veto power of a few governments. We want a political system which really represent the variety and diversity of our societies:
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1. The economy must be put to the service of people's welfare, and to support and serve the environment, not private profit. We want a system where labour is appreciated by its social utility, not its financial or commercial profit. Therefore, we demand:
2. To achieve these objectives, we believe that the economy should be run democratically at all levels, from local to global. People must get democratic control over financial institutions, transnational corporations and their lobbies. To this end, we demand:
3. We believe that political systems must be fully democratic. We therefore demand full democratisation of international institutions, and the elimination of the veto power of a few governments. We want a political system which really represent the variety and diversity of our societies:
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It Has Been Said Here, That The Brutal Take Down Of Occupy Is Hyperbole... [View all]
WillyT
Jan 2014
OP
What Occupy went through pales in comparison to what the Civil Rights movement went through
Cali_Democrat
Jan 2014
#4
Ya See Cali_D... We Made The Mistake Of Thinking That Those Before Us Paved The Way...
WillyT
Jan 2014
#9
Yeah, that's how you win. Personal attacks against people who would be on your
jtuck004
Jan 2014
#30
And Yet The Fact That Y'all Would Shit On These Honorable Folks... The Ones That Tried...
WillyT
Jan 2014
#37
"These folks" is all of us, btw. And who is shitting on them? The people who make
jtuck004
Jan 2014
#41
Ok... That's Two Posts Of Yours I Do Not Understand... Could Ya Boil It Down ???
WillyT
Jan 2014
#43
The short version. One day a little bird landed, frozen, in the snow of a field.
jtuck004
Jan 2014
#115
So, you're saying that DUers should stand by Occupy no matter what and defend it and never
merrily
Jan 2014
#81
Here, let me help you since you seem lost and uninformed. Did you know that OWS's goal was to
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#89
OWS is only beginning. Give it time. So much wishful thinking. 'OWS IS DEAD!' Lol!
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#24
Occupy had logistic problems. The problem of living in tents in the winter was a big one.
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#47
+1. There are people alive who don't even know that there was once a good guy named "Chaney."
MADem
Jan 2014
#88
Is it? Considering that the FBI labeled OWS as a 'terrorist threat', revealed through an FOIA
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#26
The best test is to take it completely out of our own context and put it someplace else.
pa28
Jan 2014
#7
+1 - The Duplicity Of American Media And The Oligarchs (1%) That Own The News
cantbeserious
Jan 2014
#8
Big brother will not blanche demonstration of displeasure with the policies or actions of
indepat
Jan 2014
#14
by someone who brags about having money and the influence it buys on the "Democratic" process
reddread
Jan 2014
#16
The camp in the park indefinitely was very much a media meme as the only thing done
nadinbrzezinski
Jan 2014
#18
Actually OWS had huge support, over 80% in NYC when Bloomberg was using what he called 'his army' to
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#28
And that's the problem as far as they're concerned. Occupy embodied the rejection of
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#61
Debate is stifled when all one poster does is respond with LOL! and rollie smilies.
OnyxCollie
Jan 2014
#70
Thank You For That... But, How Long Do We Wait When The Answers Are In Front Of Our Faces ???
WillyT
Jan 2014
#64
The fight might have to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary in huge country with 50 judicial
ancianita
Jan 2014
#105
LOL !!! - Yeah, And At The Rate We're Going... We're Gonna Have To Figure Out How To Vote For...
WillyT
Jan 2014
#84
Flagged as potential terrorists, but no one needed to throw that label on them.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#33
I would be willing to bet that NSA is closely monitoring many of the people who ...
spin
Jan 2014
#42
And they should be banned for their blatant fascist rhetoric...occupy was brutalized and still hunte
Drew Richards
Jan 2014
#45
Not hyperbole. But perhaps if the issue is whether it's been killed, perhaps it wasn't meant to stay
ancianita
Jan 2014
#57
Agreed.Occupy isn't dead at all.It taught millions, and the changes you outline can't be overlooked.
ancianita
Jan 2014
#97
In hashing out the significance of OWS, differing rhetoric and understandings don't constitute lies.
ancianita
Jan 2014
#102
NOW you're talking sellout. Or sarcasm? I'm talking about making effort in unity of understanding,
ancianita
Jan 2014
#107
Ah. Thanks for the clarification. Fair points. I think and act the same way about differences.
ancianita
Jan 2014
#113
"The brutal takedown" presumes the various responses to Occupy were one-and-the-same action
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#91
Perhaps...now show me where DU has described the Police response to Occupy as Hyperbole
brooklynite
Jan 2014
#95
Ok Fine... You Look At ThOSE Pictures, And Argue Semantics Instead Of Humanity ???
WillyT
Jan 2014
#100
Chicken shit couch monkey Anti Justice Movement corporatist weenbags say that about every group
Zorra
Jan 2014
#104
Yep... Good Thing They Weren't Terrorists... They Might Have REALLY Gotten Their Asses Kicked...
WillyT
Jan 2014
#106
"Non-violent" protests are a misnomer. In actuality, they are roughly half as violent.
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2014
#125
FBI talked about SHOOTING people with a contractor like MURDER was business-as-usual.
Octafish
Jan 2014
#129