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In reply to the discussion: I fear for this Pope [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)simply because I see progress where you do not. Absolutely disgusting. I asked if you supported this President who was opposed to Gay Marriage because you are SLAMMING people for seeing just a little progress in the right direction which you refuse to see. That was NOT questioning your Dem voting record. IT was a fair question in the context of this discussion. For me it was a difficult decision and for many other disappointed Democrats. But in the end, the choice was between someone who outright opposed women and gay rights and someone who at least was against the kind of vicious hatred of the other side.
So if you supported this president then you are claiming for yourself the right to make what you think was the best decision you could while denying that right to other people.
The pope has said a lot of things. I notice you cherry pick his statements giving no attention whatsoever to his other statements regarding the members of his Church who have been filled with hatred and literally slamming them for their hypocrisy, ALLOWING Catholic politicians to vote without fear of being attacked by those hypocrites.
If you don't want that kind of progress, then go right ahead do as you please, but it is disgusting for you to say to me that I am supporting discrimination when nothing could be further from the truth as everyone who knows me knows. How dare you. I will go on supporting women and gay issues and any small progress I see, I will support and you have zero right to tell other people how they ought to react to every little bit of progress they see.
I am glad eg, for supporting Obama despite my disgust at his anti Gay Marriage stance because my reasoning was that it there was a slight possibility of being able to change his mind while there was NO possibility of doing so with the only other choice we had. And I turned out to be right.
I am doing the exact same thing here. Recognizing the positives and knowing that for this enormous institution which has immense influence on OUR politicians, this pope has REMOVED the weapons they've been using as the vote in my link showed.
I am more than comfortable with my position on these issues and no matter how nasty the attacks, I know where I stand, and will NOT be intimidated by any kind of bullying.
The pope, fyi, has also spoken thoughtfully about the children of gay marriages, of course he was immediately 'corrected' by the fundies in his own church but he doesn't appear to the be the type to allow bullying to stop him from making progress either.