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In reply to the discussion: Edward Snowden Vindicated: Obama Speech Acknowledges Changes Needed To Surveillance - HuffPo [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)10. I am delighted to read that headline.
Of course,
the usual defenders of the NSA will get all up in a smoke blowing tizzy trying to distort and deny.
(Man they get here FAST!
Its like they have nothing else to do.)
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Rampant Government Secrecy and Democracy can not co-exist.
Persecution of Whistle Blowers and Democracy can not co-exist.
Government surveillance of the citizenry and Democracy can not co-exist.
Secret Laws and Democracy can not co-exist.
Secret Courts and Democracy can not-co-exist.
Our Democracy depends on an informed electorate.
You either believe in Democracy,
or you don't.
It IS that simple.
Rampant Government Secrecy and Democracy can not co-exist.
Persecution of Whistle Blowers and Democracy can not co-exist.
Government surveillance of the citizenry and Democracy can not co-exist.
Secret Laws and Democracy can not co-exist.
Secret Courts and Democracy can not-co-exist.
Our Democracy depends on an informed electorate.
You either believe in Democracy,
or you don't.
It IS that simple.
DURec.
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Edward Snowden Vindicated: Obama Speech Acknowledges Changes Needed To Surveillance - HuffPo [View all]
WillyT
Jan 2014
OP
I bet most libertarians also love ice cream and our Constitution and sunny days and Sundays
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#69
No self respecting Democrat would ever give a click to that blog. Is it still going?
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#38
You might enjoy the press conference given by whistleblowers Binney, Tice, et al.
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#70
I think we should prosecute no one until Bush is prosecuted! Free Bernie Madoff!!! nt
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#66
I never noticed him asking for shit. He exposed crimes he witnessed that is the duty of any citizen
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#40
Didn't the President say something about revising the NSA 3wks. before the Snowden leak?
The Wielding Truth
Jan 2014
#36
Since this has been upheld dozens of times as Constitutional by the courts...
ConservativeDemocrat
Jan 2014
#30
That's what I thought also, that the violations of Constitutional Rights using 9/11 was the heart of
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#44
You have cites to support that Snowden is in favor of no intelligence services at all for the US? nt
Fumesucker
Jan 2014
#34
Given all he's broadcast about how we collect from foreign countries TO those countries
ConservativeDemocrat
Jan 2014
#42
Got a link to this: 'He's told the Chinese ... He's told the Russians' I've asked
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#45
You mean he spoke to the press? We know that, that's what Whistle Blowers generally do.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#51
Are you seriously trying to say, Sabrina, that no one in China reads Chinese newspapers?
ConservativeDemocrat
Jan 2014
#58
When the NYT published the Pentagon Papers are you seriously saying that no one in Russia
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#60
Have there been any indictments against War Criminals, Wall St Criminals, Torturers, people who lie
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#46
Sabrina, did you get a chance to watch the news conference by the other whistleblowers including
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#72
vin·di·cate [vin-di-keyt] - to clear, as from an accusation, imputation, suspicion, or the like
baldguy
Jan 2014
#50
The biggest changes will be to stop future "Snowdens" from getting access to sensistive data.
DCBob
Jan 2014
#56
We need more Snowdens, Mannings, and whistle blowers to get "transparency" and action.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2014
#67