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The2ndWheel

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34. The government will be forced to do the basic income thing at some point

Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:27 PM

Jan 2014

Not for consumption primarily, but just to keep people from turning to the violence you're talking about. Money is becoming more and more abstract. The need for people doing the work isn't going to go up, if the energy for that is cheap enough.

That's really where it all comes together. Will energy be cheap, or will it be expensive? That will help determine the course of the future. The roads we go down when we get there haven't been built yet.

Maybe that creates a society where we're all free of need, and do what we want. Maybe it creates a society where we're all lumps on the couch living life out in a video game. Maybe we all turn into the kids of the uber-wealthy who inherit their parent's money. Maybe it's a combination of all 3 and any other scenario you can think of. 7 billion+ people currently. Plenty of ways it can go.

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The government will be forced to do the basic income thing at some point The2ndWheel Jan 2014 #34

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