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In reply to the discussion: Churches Protest & Harass Abortion Clinic Patients? Reverse the Tables at Their Churches. [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)85. RW Christian War Crimes in Bosnia: 'The rapes went on day and night': Robert Fisk, in Mostar,
gathers detailed evidence of the systematic sexual assaults on Muslim women by Serbian 'White Eagle' gunmen.
The day was 2 August and all but 10 of the 105 women held prisoner in the gymnasium were to be gang-raped over the following 26 days, some of them by as many as seven Serb militiamen. Their suffering was endured by thousands of other Muslim women in August and September of last year as Serbian forces 'ethnically cleansed' the Muslim villages of eastern and western Bosnia.
What makes the ordeal of the Kalinovik women so important, however, is the extraordinary detail which is emerging of their mistreatment. Senad Saric, a gynaecologist from Gacko who has performed seven abortions on the survivors, has compiled a complete list of the names and ages of all the raped women along with those of five girls who were taken away by the Serbs and apparently forced to work as prostitutes. They were never seen again. Survivors, living now in shell-damaged buildings in Jablanica and in the ruined city of Mostar on the Neretva river, have also recorded the names of young men who were brutally murdered in their presence and of the fate of at least 71 other women who were machine- gunned to death in a neighbouring village. They say that the local Serbian police in Kalinovik knew of the rapes and murders but made no attempt to help them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/bosnia-war-crimes-the-rapes-went-on-day-and-night-robert-fisk-in-mostar-gathers-detailed-evidence-of-the-systematic-sexual-assaults-on-muslim-women-by-serbian-white-eagle-gunmen-1471656.html[/d
This is only some of what we know; imagine the greater mass horror of what we will never know.
The war in Bosnia is a solid bet for gathering information and photos of heinous atrocities committed by religious people. Maybe a few detailed shots of forced rapes and mutilations might be effective for use by protesters outside the houses of worship in question.
The day was 2 August and all but 10 of the 105 women held prisoner in the gymnasium were to be gang-raped over the following 26 days, some of them by as many as seven Serb militiamen. Their suffering was endured by thousands of other Muslim women in August and September of last year as Serbian forces 'ethnically cleansed' the Muslim villages of eastern and western Bosnia.
What makes the ordeal of the Kalinovik women so important, however, is the extraordinary detail which is emerging of their mistreatment. Senad Saric, a gynaecologist from Gacko who has performed seven abortions on the survivors, has compiled a complete list of the names and ages of all the raped women along with those of five girls who were taken away by the Serbs and apparently forced to work as prostitutes. They were never seen again. Survivors, living now in shell-damaged buildings in Jablanica and in the ruined city of Mostar on the Neretva river, have also recorded the names of young men who were brutally murdered in their presence and of the fate of at least 71 other women who were machine- gunned to death in a neighbouring village. They say that the local Serbian police in Kalinovik knew of the rapes and murders but made no attempt to help them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/bosnia-war-crimes-the-rapes-went-on-day-and-night-robert-fisk-in-mostar-gathers-detailed-evidence-of-the-systematic-sexual-assaults-on-muslim-women-by-serbian-white-eagle-gunmen-1471656.html[/d
This is only some of what we know; imagine the greater mass horror of what we will never know.
The war in Bosnia is a solid bet for gathering information and photos of heinous atrocities committed by religious people. Maybe a few detailed shots of forced rapes and mutilations might be effective for use by protesters outside the houses of worship in question.
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Churches Protest & Harass Abortion Clinic Patients? Reverse the Tables at Their Churches. [View all]
David Zephyr
Jan 2014
OP
I did quite a bit when I was young, and the protesters were vicious to us. We were all women, and
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#5
The weird thing is, they had a very secretive local presence. They ran a home for those housing some
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#11
I'm totally ready to start protesting churches....particularly southern baptist republican ones.
loudsue
Jan 2014
#28
This would be targeting the ones who are pushing the issue of women's rights - churches - but
jwirr
Jan 2014
#66
Yeah they were a weird bunch spitting shrieking like the world was going to end
Katashi_itto
Jan 2014
#63
They wouldn't be jailed if they stay the appropriate way from the church. Ask the Phelps family.
Maraya1969
Jan 2014
#6
are you referring to individual churches, or particular faiths? as far as I am concerned, unless
niyad
Jan 2014
#14
did you catch the part where scalia whined that he objected to the woman-hating, anti-choice,
niyad
Jan 2014
#13
and thank you. it isn't surprising that scotus is doing this, with six catholics amoung them.
niyad
Jan 2014
#25
Again and again, that turd in a black robe and vanity hat speaks out on matters likely to
merrily
Jan 2014
#81
ACT UP did that in NY and in LA, it had great impact and was worth the whining
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#55
So you claim when a religion says women are murderers and gay people are from hell
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#62
phelps and co have never gone to jail in all these years. what makes you think it is ever likely
niyad
Jan 2014
#108
Yes, and imagine the indignation and fear that girls and women are facing everyday in America.
David Zephyr
Jan 2014
#91
The anti-abortion crowd is ignorant about what Planned Parenthood really does.
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#42
What would such an activity achieve other than to alienate religious people?
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#41
If they get near you tell them you are fearful and will "Stand Your Ground" and see what they do.
Bandit
Jan 2014
#47
No such thing in the US, kiddo. That's why the other side can do what they do.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#56
the buffer zone is there because these people are dangerous and the Supremes,
mountain grammy
Jan 2014
#65
Nope, wrong venue. They love to carry grotesque, full color posters to clinics.
freshwest
Jan 2014
#70
It's really psychological and physical violence against women and it's orchestrated.
David Zephyr
Jan 2014
#99
These fine conservative Catholic Supremes would do the Taliban proud imo: they would also do any
indepat
Jan 2014
#72
Thank you. I wish more men had realized that the patriarchal wagons started circling 'round women
ancianita
Jan 2014
#73
RW Christian War Crimes in Bosnia: 'The rapes went on day and night': Robert Fisk, in Mostar,
Zorra
Jan 2014
#85
god damned straight, david. thank you so much for making this important point.
PeaceNikki
Jan 2014
#92