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ConservativeDemocrat

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23. Sure. Here's some supporting data.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jan 2014

Please note, I'll not get into a duel of anecdotes, as that's not useful at all. There are terrible one-off decisions being made around custody cases every day. So let me point you to this. I think it's reasonably balanced:

"In the old days, the courts used "the best interest of the child" as the explanation for why they gave custody to one parent or the other. Old Bureau of Census statistics indicate that in the early 90s the custody continued to be 90% to the mother, 9% to other family members or child shelters, and 1% to the fathers. Usually, "best interest of the child" was shorthand for "the kids go with mom and dad gets to see the kids ever other weekend, split of the holidays, and a week or 2 in the summer."

In those days, it was exceptional for even those fathers whose ex was verifiably drug addicted, alcoholic or mentally ill, to win custody of his children. (To be fair, it should also be said that some fathers got the court to believe this even when it wasn't true--I have met many women who didn't have custody, who didn't seem to fit any of these categories.)

The courts in the old days weren't particularly shy about what they were doing with custody. One judge in the South was quoted on the record as saying he never gave custody to fathers because in his experience on the farm he had never seen a calf follow a bull around in the pasture; the baby calves only followed their mothers."


Look at that first Bureau of Census statistic. 90% vs 1%. If there was a Bureau of Census statistic that said that nationally, whenever police went to break up a bar-fight, they arrested black people 90% of the time, vs 1% of the time for whites, would you suspect the police might be possibly racist? Or, would you be a Rush fan and say that that blacks are 90 times to cause violence as whites do?

There are people who do evil and hurtful things all the times in custody cases. Including both sides lying. Constantly. I will also say that courts are being a bit more even-handed these days - which is actually a good thing. But gender roles are still heavily in play in many parts of the country concerning this. And if you're entirely in favor of gender roles when it helps you, only against it when it doesn't, then you're very much a hypocrite.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

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Some feminist memes and toons. [View all] ZombieHorde Jan 2014 OP
on that second one.. snooper2 Jan 2014 #1
her cat owns them BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #15
Yeah, that artistic choice made me raise an eyebrow too. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #21
I like the last one. cyberswede Jan 2014 #2
" . . . said no one ever." Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #3
I think it's to humiliate the woman walking by leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #4
Exactly. It is to reinforce dominant status. redqueen Jan 2014 #6
if he can't force her to have sex with him, he can force her to listen to him geek tragedy Jan 2014 #7
the more uncomfortable and beaten down the woman's reaction, BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #16
Mostly, it's to show off their mating call to other males. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #12
Nope. It never worked with me. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #5
... and it never worked FOR me VWolf Jan 2014 #10
Other lines will work depending on the delivery. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #11
Kicked and recced cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #8
The interesting thing is that many MRAs also hate gender roles... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #9
it is utter bullshit to portray the MRAs and feminists as co-equal geek tragedy Jan 2014 #13
And how often does that happen? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #14
he could ask my wife's clients, who get drug tested when trying to win geek tragedy Jan 2014 #17
Sure. Here's some supporting data. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #23
Un bloody likely. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #26
Things are clearly headed in the right direction... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #27
Fathermag.com is an extreme rightwing male supremacist shitrag. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #28
Alright. Fine. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #30
"the Violence Against Women Act which portends the widescale curtailment of men’s civil liberties" redqueen Jan 2014 #31
My 'code word' alarm is going BLEEP BLOOP WARBLE all over the place AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #33
I have a problem with it if it's going to print something an editor didn't actually check. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #29
Here are two absolute MUST READ articles about these groups. redqueen Jan 2014 #32
lol Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #18
Absolutely This One - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #19
That Tina Fey quote is so very apt. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #22
And then there's the cover of Time. Beacool Jan 2014 #20
K and R geardaddy Jan 2014 #24
Thank you. Beacool Jan 2014 #25
Pretty good :) shenmue Jan 2014 #34
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