Unfortunately, I find myself in agreement with Rand Paul today.

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129. The US Constitution is the Law of the Land. If you run for elected office you take an oath to

'defend and protect' the Consitution of the US 'against all enemies, foreign AND domestic' Biden's statement is consistent with his oath.

The oath does not say 'except when you don't agree with the Constitution and you feel it is in need of amending' . That was BUSH's understanding of the oath he, laughingly took.

The ACLU supports the EQUALITY contained in Citizen's United, iow that it does not just apply to Large Corporations but also applies so small ones. If it had only applied to Big Corps, which was the understanding of many people, they would be taking it to the SC AGAIN. But challenging it on the basis of inequality isn't possible. You can disagree with the sentiment of the law while acknowledging its legal basis.

Snowden did break the law in defense of the Constitution. So do most Whistle Blowers and most know they are breaking the law. It will up to a court to decide if the information he revealed was more important to the public's right to know, than the breaking of the law. See Ellsberg.

But Security Contractors don't get to decide that violating the law for profit, because we know now that they have never found a terrorist, which was their justification for breaking the law AND for taking those billions of dollars to FIND terrorists. Clapper lied to Congress. Why lie if he believed they were doing nothing wrong?

You, in a post in this thread during the period when Bush was caught violating these same laws, spoke passionately in agreement with Biden and Paul on this subject. I agree completely with what you said then and still do.

As for the other subject re Paul on drones being used to kill robbers, that is insane.

That does NOT make him wrong on this subject. Nor does it make Biden wrong, or you, or me or anyone who stood up against these egregious policies during the Bush years and which are still with us. I haven't changed my mind one bit. Why have you?