the people who defended the NSA most vociferously, are those

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178. It's frustrating.

Honestly, I don't know what to say to someone with that kind of mindset anymore. The perceived victory for their favorite star is more important than right and wrong, the constitution, the fight for equality, fighting poverty, and so on. It's disturbing how big of fans these people are of Bush era (or older) plans that violate our constitutional rights, or supportive of war when they think it is what President Obama wants. It actually hurts the party more than any "purist" because it reenforces the idea that both parties are the same that a lot of people have.

President Obama is a very pragmatic politician (sometimes to his detriment) and tends to carefully think things over. I knew that before I voted for him. While this is sometimes detrimental as the politically smart policy isn't always good for us (like the TPP) it can lead to positive changes like greater support for same sex marriage, or not rashly into a Syrian civil war. Unfortunately, his more cultish previously pro-NSA and pro-WAR (and currently free trade fans) go full on neocon in support of their hero when he faces legit criticism for a conservative or authoritarian leaning policy. When did being against domestic spying programs, wanting our constitutional rights protected, wanting socialized healthcare, or being against demonstrably damaging secretive free trade agreements make one either a far right libertarian operative or far left communist extremist?