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neverforget

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61. And we have a Democratic President to make the changes to make abuse less likely.

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 02:50 AM

Jan 2014

I don't blame Obama for the abuses of his predecessors. However, he can certainly make changes for the better. While today is a start, the Congress is going to have to codify this stuff into law so the next president doesn't undo it as these are all executive actions.

As for the rest, none of those entities can put you in prison but are the result of business transactions.

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ACLU Comment on President�s NSA Speech [View all] ProSense Jan 2014 OP

lipstick on the pig isn't enough nt grasswire Jan 2014 #1

How many ACLU hoops must the President jump through? They would end the NSA outright, Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #2

+1 n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #3

And then be the first to complain that the government didn't do enough to protect our kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #8

This exact quote could have been seen PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #11

What does the government do to protect our natural resources, energy grid, bank accounts, JDPriestly Jan 2014 #39

Good grief. The ACLU is one of the few organizations out there Mojorabbit Jan 2014 #10

Really... and on a "progressive" website, to boot.... hlthe2b Jan 2014 #19

I'm a Democrat, not a CATO Institute lovin' Civil Libertarian. Fuck Libertarians! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #24

I'm a progressive Democrat-- not an authoritarian --and one who cares about civil liberties hlthe2b Jan 2014 #25

Your "advice" is duly noted. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #27

I agree with you Progressive dog Jan 2014 #29

There are none, except those who play one "on the internet". Like Thom Hartmann says: Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #31

...Or are doing illegal drugs. eom Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #62

Exactly. They are Republicans at heart. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #70

Fuck authoritarian Republicans! Broward Jan 2014 #55

And "Fuck" libertarian Republicans as well! Fuck Republicans period! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #58

I frankly don't give a s**t what "you believe". We also have "a right" not to be blown up. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #23

Can you link to that part of the Constitution. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #33

Well hello Luminous(Fire)Animal(Dog)! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #34

�Que? Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #51

No offense, but I never click on your links. But thanks anyhoo! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #57

No offense taken. I love you Tarheel_Dem. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #60

FEARMONGERING bobduca Jan 2014 #54

Don't be surprised. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #42

Fuck Comrade Snowden! May he live out his life in Putin's Russia. Couldn't happen to a nicer asshole Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #59

All the hoops required to restore constitutional normalcy. nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #15

And he listened treestar Jan 2014 #26

Exactly. There's no pleasing them no matter what he does. It's ODS at it's absolute worst. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #28

Oh yeah, and they're coming out of the damn woodwork.. Cha Jan 2014 #64

Oh, they've never gone away. They infest this board like a plague. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #69

Yeah, they're fucking gross.. got their "correct" talking points down.. Cha Jan 2014 #71

The weak minded idiot in the pink "bonnet" is proof positive they're here. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #72

Smooch smooch Stoooopid! Cha Jan 2014 #73

Poor, delicate, Obama, has to jump through civil liberties hoops. Tsk. Tsk. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #66

What's with all the extraneous commas? Education is fundamental. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #68

Thanks for the post and cross posts for follow up on the NSA issues. (nt) pinto Jan 2014 #4

This is a great chart. Thanks for posting nt riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #5

You're welcome. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #6

Talk is cheap. PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #7

Yeah, but ProSense Jan 2014 #9

I will give him props PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #12

You've all given that smiley such a bad rep. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #18

I like ProSense Jan 2014 #21

It's not laughter its just derisive scorn, one of your most time-worn tools bobduca Jan 2014 #43

No, ProSense Jan 2014 #44

I don't believe you. bobduca Jan 2014 #46

I don't care ProSense Jan 2014 #47

Cue canned laughter bobduca Jan 2014 #48

. ProSense Jan 2014 #50

His reforms are not sufficient. That is the problem. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #52

"The president�s own review panel recommended that bulk data collection be ended hlthe2b Jan 2014 #13

The ACLU just has ODS mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #14

The President takes the heat for 60 years of NSA spying... kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #16

This is a big issue too imo PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #17

+1 Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #30

+1 Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #32

You made coffee come out of my nose!!! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #35

Yep. 60 years of NSA spying and...the black guy is the fall guy Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #49

And we have a Democratic President to make the changes to make abuse less likely. neverforget Jan 2014 #61

Thanks Prosense. Cha Jan 2014 #20

You're welcome. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #22

Excerpt from ACLU email this afternoon. In the interest of fairness. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #36

That's reflected in the chart. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #37

K&R. Thank you kindly. great white snark Jan 2014 #38

Thanks. ProSense Jan 2014 #40

I don't know why he does not do more to end this, it is a curious thing to me. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #41

Good speech, good first start. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #45

Kick n Rec! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #53

Here is the speech: Coyotl Jan 2014 #56

NSA Critic Ron Wyden Commends 'Milestone' In Surveillance Reform.. Cha Jan 2014 #63

Yes, and if you ProSense Jan 2014 #75

As long as it's up here, you need a much bigger trowel if you're going to cover up this pig. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #65

The question is if these restrictions will be enforced. ... spin Jan 2014 #67

Thoughtful post. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #76

After building that massive data collection facility, we're just going to leave it sitting empty? Shandris Jan 2014 #74