the people who defended the NSA most vociferously, are those

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228. Why did we need reforms of something we were told everyone knew for centuries and were no problem

anyhow? Lol! Cali has a point.

The best thing to do is to be consistent on issues and never (I learned this after spending years defending Clinton against right wing attacks when he betrayed all of us and became 'like a son' to Barbara Bush and went around the world rehabilitating Bush, cavorting with the enemy iow. I'm sure Bush supporters got the same shock after the way they supported HIM and slammed Clinton mainly because of him) get personally attached to ANY politician. They will make defending them very difficult and cause you to avoid stating your own opinions in order not to 'let them down' when they flip flop on issues you care about.

Politicians are not our friends, they were given a job by us because we thought they were the best person to do the job. When they don't the job we thought they would do, it's best to just say so, painful as it may be.

Issues are all I care about now after spending so much time focusing on the politician and as a result not noticing, or ignoring, even trying to defend, what he was up to regarding policies, until it was way too late. Iow, I did what you are doing which is why I understand it.