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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
5. 5: "We might well kill you if we were sure we hadn't made a mistake, but we're not".
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:39 AM
Jan 2014

If the death penalty were reversible if it turned out we'd made a mistake, I think that on balance I'd support it.

But I'm not willing to risk taking the risk of executing innocents when there are perfectly good prisons.

For the most heinous crimes, the sentence should be

1) If we were certain we hadn't made a mistake, we might well execute you.
2) But sometimes we get it wrong, so we're going to imprison you for life, and give you the right to appeal every so often, especially if new evidence comes to light.
3) But unless it turns out that we were wrong about what you did, or you can convince an appeal court that we were wrong in sentencing you, then you do not deserve ever to come out of jail again, and will die there".


I think that opposition to the death penalty is a no-brainer. But if it could be administered infallibly by angels, or even if it were reversible, it would be a serious moral dilemma.


American jail conditions are another matter: they're inexcusable, and need to be improved. So 5, rather than 4, but failing that 4 is the least worst option.

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I look to Norway RandiFan1290 Jan 2014 #1
You beat me to it. avebury Jan 2014 #8
I voted for the 4th option. I'm pretty distressed by ther vengeance fantasies cali Jan 2014 #2
And juries are inconsistant in hiding prison rape and prison justice posts. Kaleva Jan 2014 #7
I'm reminded of all the death row inmates released in Illinois. B Calm Jan 2014 #3
No death penalty because it can't be applied consistently to every heinous crime politicman Jan 2014 #4
5: "We might well kill you if we were sure we hadn't made a mistake, but we're not". Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #5
It is mind boggling to me that 32 states still have a death penalty. (nt) PotatoChip Jan 2014 #6
The main reason I can never support the avebury Jan 2014 #9
Only under the UCMJ Recursion Jan 2014 #10
Yes ! And randomly killing platoons from units that lose battles!!!! HereSince1628 Jan 2014 #11
more resutls? Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #12
"Hard labor" for me evokes the Nazi "work camps" Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #13
We have our own history to look at ... surrealAmerican Jan 2014 #16
will try again Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #14
I voted for your first choice because I was assuming the accused had confessed. Helen Highwater Jan 2014 #15
I voted for option #5 . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #17
the ONLY good thing about capital punishment is NightWatcher Jan 2014 #18
anther try for results? Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #19
How should GWB and Cheney be punished for orchestrating mass murder of 100+ thousand? PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #20
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