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258. Worshiping at the alter of Consistency is a foolish game.

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:17 AM

Jan 2014

Everyone's viewpoints should be malleable when new information is presented. Otherwise, we are all robots.

Most of us who think Snowden is a fool agreed that reforms were needed. Now here they are and some DUers are still unhappy about it. It's an interesting view of society in a microcosm.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're cheating someone.[/center][/font][hr]

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the people who defended the NSA most vociferously, are those [View all] cali Jan 2014 OP

And awaaaay we gooooooo! Fumesucker Jan 2014 #1

. Glassunion Jan 2014 #40

.. tjwash Jan 2014 #161

There ProSense Jan 2014 #2

I want to see what the "reforms" turn out to be. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #32

Here's a ProSense Jan 2014 #37

We really need your hourly posts again. This time how well the Presidents doing to rein in the NSA Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #54

Almost as much as we need Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #70

It's fascinating how you show up Aerows Jan 2014 #80

Well Said! Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #92

:) Aerows Jan 2014 #96

lol Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #104

Adults are talking Aerows Jan 2014 #110

Right... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #117

Then don't take on responsibilities Aerows Jan 2014 #119

Who the everloving fuck Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #123

Hi Aerows Jan 2014 #124

Yeah Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #128

Who said I was looking for yours? Aerows Jan 2014 #132

Nah. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #138

LOL! n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #140

Meow.... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #100

You are so intensely cool Aerows Jan 2014 #111

Beyond tacky. Bringing stuff from other threads to slam people Number23 Jan 2014 #185

I love Australia Aerows Jan 2014 #188

Hope you've got lots and lots of Bactine around. Number23 Jan 2014 #192

I'm under the influence of rabies shots Aerows Jan 2014 #194

Damn. That explains a lot Number23 Jan 2014 #197

Nobody wants the battery of shots Aerows Jan 2014 #198

In case you were wondering, I'm on number 3 Aerows Jan 2014 #203

Are the rabies shot going to be your excuse for all of the personal attacks you've launched in this Number23 Jan 2014 #206

I think you get sensitive for a whole lot more reasons Aerows Jan 2014 #207

That is all he knows how to do, ignore him. Rex Jan 2014 #276

23 is a she... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #295

Of course she does...just like you and your crew. Rex Jan 2014 #297

Yadda yadda.... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #298

Yeah that about the best you can do with conversation, we all know thanks. Rex Jan 2014 #299

Pure idiocy. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #301

Pure projection. nt. Rex Jan 2014 #303

Indeed. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #309

I'm glad to see you agree about your post. Rex Jan 2014 #310

. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #311

How completely unoriginal and typical. Rex Jan 2014 #314

Oh look Aerows Jan 2014 #321

Shovel dude... LOL Number23 Jan 2014 #339

Irony. The person who follows me like a lost puppy from thread to thread Number23 Jan 2014 #338

is this the raccoon thing? arely staircase Jan 2014 #334

I don't know what bit her. But she keeps posting about it so I'm sure it will be easy enough to find Number23 Jan 2014 #341

Paul Revere was a rebel, Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #240

Were you the one to defend Bush during his tenure? Aerows Jan 2014 #79

Good grief ProSense Jan 2014 #87

Oh, PR person got angry Aerows Jan 2014 #88

Oh, ProSense Jan 2014 #131

It truly is hilarious Aerows Jan 2014 #144

Good to know others see this obsessive compulsive Titonwan Jan 2014 #182

We'll have to wait and see sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #262

I'm not stupidicus Jan 2014 #264

"What's curious is how angry people are that reforms are being made." Titonwan Jan 2014 #205

You know what ProSense Jan 2014 #208

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #211

Good post Titonwan LiberalLovinLug Jan 2014 #271

. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #319

Why did we need reforms of something we were told everyone knew for centuries and were no problem sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #228

This is ineffably well put, sabrina_1. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #256

Worshiping at the alter of Consistency is a foolish game. randome Jan 2014 #258

Indeed. Look in the mirror, my friend. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #313

And just what reforms are needed? treestar Jan 2014 #326

Any day that you wake up and think "all is perfect" Aerows Jan 2014 #331

But what ideally is to be done with the NSA? treestar Jan 2014 #342

Get rid of all the Republicans, which should have happened five years ago. That's why we elect sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #358

you would apply full criminal law standards for warrants to national security? treestar Jan 2014 #362

only a politically naive fool would think obama is reining anything in... tomp Jan 2014 #239

So who do you trust in government? The Wielding Truth Jan 2014 #270

Who do you trust in government, honest question? n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #349

The contortions were amazing, weren't they? LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #3

What I haven't seen is any of them Union Scribe Jan 2014 #4

wasn't anything wrong? lol. Whisp Jan 2014 #146

HILLARY! HILLARY!! Skittles Jan 2014 #167

I know. It's so cute when she spies. Whisp Jan 2014 #168

more cuter when you deflect! Skittles Jan 2014 #169

topic: NSA / spying Whisp Jan 2014 #172

You and I are friends, dude Aerows Jan 2014 #190

lookie here: Whisp Jan 2014 #209

... Cables containing the guidance were sent in 2008 and 2009 ... "No one ever reads struggle4progress Jan 2014 #237

Critical thinking scares a lot of people who resist change like it was a disease. Rex Jan 2014 #300

There's always room for reforms. MineralMan Jan 2014 #5

I think your OP shoud be posted to this other DU thread. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #6

... Wait Wut Jan 2014 #8

How so? oldhippie Jan 2014 #33

I'm not sure that using the word 'pathetic' ... brett_jv Jan 2014 #50

+1 JoePhilly Jan 2014 #51

I think it is quite a stretch to .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #55

How about "mentally disturbing"? JoePhilly Jan 2014 #60

Can you define "false strawman"? mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #64

Sure. Its a set of lies, bundled together to create a false argument. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #71

So a "false strawman" refers just to arguments mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #126

Binary is all some do here. Rex Jan 2014 #135

Snort Egnever Jan 2014 #162

Like I was saying...and here comes one to reply to me. Rex Jan 2014 #278

that's one of the code phrases Skittles Jan 2014 #108

"False strawman"? mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #149

Keep kicking ass Aerows Jan 2014 #320

I think what you are failing to grasp .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #76

Same thing used on Digg and Reddit during the Bush years Aerows Jan 2014 #85

Yea, no one buys that. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #152

"Referring to DU members...." oldhippie Jan 2014 #153

Absolutely. The OP is not doing that. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #155

Mocking is an equal opportunity behavior, ideas and individuals both Fumesucker Jan 2014 #175

You are wise Aerows Jan 2014 #193

They actually do Aerows Jan 2014 #164

+1 n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #74

A clear example of how ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #7

Awe come on ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #59

My bad ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #91

I'm just waiting for them to turn on Him entirely (come '15 or '17) MisterP Jan 2014 #9

Unlikely Demeter Jan 2014 #266

For some, he's a poster boy Aerows Jan 2014 #333

this makes me miss meta nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #10

The people who screamed most loudly frazzled Jan 2014 #11

Yes, but which cult? nt kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #13

Well, it wasn't about Snowden, and yes, he's been vindicated. At least in part. Orsino Jan 2014 #18

Saying "he's vindicated" is nothing like saying "It's all about Snowden" MNBrewer Jan 2014 #97

Boxes. Garage Aerows Jan 2014 #102

Pole Dancer!!!!! Autumn Jan 2014 #112

It's to the point of hilarious Aerows Jan 2014 #116

Are you feeling better after your ordeal? Autumn Jan 2014 #120

I've quit taking the antibiotics because they made me sick as a dog Aerows Jan 2014 #121

Ballerina deserter! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #231

Agreed, this cult like mindset is dangerous for democracy. Broward Jan 2014 #12

Let's just be glad they didn't find a Chris Christie to love first. nt Zorra Jan 2014 #14

OMG LOL L0oniX Jan 2014 #275

It's interesting that you began a new thread to call out MineralMan Jan 2014 #15

So when you choose to take to GD Union Scribe Jan 2014 #20

Not my thread. My distaste for Rand Paul and his Father MineralMan Jan 2014 #29

Are you saying you never started a thread calling out a DUer? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #233

That's interesting. Airc, you have started threads of your own to call out DUers you disagreed with. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #232

He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #16

Aint that the truth K&R n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Jan 2014 #19

Oh, you're back...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #21

Oh Puglover Jan 2014 #58

lol Love it. ctsnowman Jan 2014 #202

ROFL! NealK Jan 2014 #212

+100! Scootaloo Jan 2014 #215

Lol! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #234

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Jan 2014 #277

+zillion. Rex Jan 2014 #282

That one's posts, deserve nothing but ridicule. n/t ronnie624 Jan 2014 #288

LOL! SMC22307 Jan 2014 #307

LOL n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #348

Is there a list of nefarious NSA supporters? abelenkpe Jan 2014 #22

They are very obvious. former9thward Jan 2014 #24

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #184

Interesting that you joined in '08, but half your nasty posts have been in the last 90 days Hekate Jan 2014 #219

wat NuclearDem Jan 2014 #221

Being a stripper for a girlfriend Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #323

Sure, it is available for $69.99 from some contractor spin off, nothing they have is private, right TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #27

It's the spectacular nature of some of the twists of logic that make them so memorable Fumesucker Jan 2014 #31

Question that this is not the end of the world treestar Jan 2014 #46

+1 n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #73

+many jberryhill Jan 2014 #156

I don't recall anyone saying this was the 'end of the world' Titonwan Jan 2014 #189

DU is full of end of the world posts treestar Jan 2014 #196

Uhm, no. Titonwan Jan 2014 #204

You must not be reading much on DU treestar Jan 2014 #243

That one likes to tell people, year after year to WAIT for the right Rex Jan 2014 #285

What's real change? treestar Jan 2014 #324

Their use of "Pootie-Poot" is supposedly clever, too. SMC22307 Jan 2014 #316

Yeah about as lame as someone telling you year after year Rex Jan 2014 #283

Obviously I meant to track the hyperbole treestar Jan 2014 #325

They are the posters making illogical claims and personal insults bobduca Jan 2014 #160

No, it's a caricature. joshcryer Jan 2014 #222

James Clapper weighs in. QuestForSense Jan 2014 #23

So did ProSense Jan 2014 #25

Well if Clapper says so... whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #26

Clapper would never lie to us! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #235

The Clapper can tell no lies jsr Jan 2014 #28

He can make erroneous statements... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #35

He can be a poor manager that doesn't have a clue what his agency is actually doing Fumesucker Jan 2014 #38

He seemed to know everything else....he mispoke on one statement VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #39

Is he your uncle or something? I just don't get the fronting for a Republican liar. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #57

Really you don't? Rex Jan 2014 #66

and you know what they say about opinions... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #68

They? Rex Jan 2014 #75

Is he your ex or something? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #67

PR failure Aerows Jan 2014 #106

back at ya "dumpling" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #109

LMAO! n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #113

Well I am sure Clapper would have to approve. zeemike Jan 2014 #44

lol. Whisp Jan 2014 #30

NO that was YOUR position on THEM VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #34

You are absolutely correct. And if the president had said that he was not reining in the NSA totodeinhere Jan 2014 #36

Agreed, can they really not see that? It boggles the mind. Broward Jan 2014 #41

Indeed. He could say that he was completely eliminating the NSA LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #95

Obviously what he says and does are not the same. L0oniX Jan 2014 #280

Oh, you poor thing. nt DevonRex Jan 2014 #42

it was the same thing with syria.. frylock Jan 2014 #43

They are tripping over their dicks, now Aerows Jan 2014 #93

It's pathetic to hang onto hatred of a politician treestar Jan 2014 #45

You know what's so overused that it is dull and damaging? Refering to any criticism as hate. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #122

lol white? Obama is black. treestar Jan 2014 #195

You're a woman, so you know being hated? SMC22307 Jan 2014 #315

You know self-pity for sure. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #364

Sigh. More absurd reductionist arguments. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #47

I noticed that. nt grasswire Jan 2014 #48

The problem is loyalty. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #49

Wow. Excellent. oldhippie Jan 2014 #151

Yes, it's original. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #157

Good catch, Cali! n/t markpkessinger Jan 2014 #52

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #53

Dead-on nailed it, Cali. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jan 2014 #61

Hear Hear !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #62

It's called PROPAGANDA, woo me with science Jan 2014 #63

Yes you've nailed it. It is called Propaganda. truedelphi Jan 2014 #226

political porn albino65 Jan 2014 #65

Isn't the opposite true? Those that wanted the President to do something FSogol Jan 2014 #69

Yea, but Putin made him rein it in. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #72

Absolutely. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #82

This would not be the first speech given by Obama Maedhros Jan 2014 #84

I think you'll find . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #86

Is anyone in this thread discussing ... JoePhilly Jan 2014 #154

Pretty much. Sometime you can't win Johonny Jan 2014 #99

Yup. great white snark Jan 2014 #107

Is it? quakerboy Jan 2014 #174

No people are pointing out the hypocrisy Puglover Jan 2014 #241

It's like a glass of water in the desert. Aerows Jan 2014 #332

i think people have a problem with those who support the PRes more than actually caring JI7 Jan 2014 #199

He restored the 4th Amendment? Then I'm with him all the way! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #236

No...what a ludicrous statement. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #365

That is why you have to take what they say with a large grain of salt. Rex Jan 2014 #77

You are teasing a bull, Cali Aerows Jan 2014 #78

I think you just might be right cali Autumn Jan 2014 #81

Exactly Aerows Jan 2014 #90

Part of the prolem, I think... davidthegnome Jan 2014 #83

Meltdown forthcoming Aerows Jan 2014 #89

It is pathetic LittleBlue Jan 2014 #94

Oh, they would Aerows Jan 2014 #98

Yeah there would be a few LittleBlue Jan 2014 #101

I don't know if they get embarrassed Aerows Jan 2014 #103

they are shameless bobduca Jan 2014 #291

Truly. QuestForSense Jan 2014 #115

are you just now figuring out the swooners, cali? Skittles Jan 2014 #105

Want me to kick them in the ass? Aerows Jan 2014 #114

honestly, ass kickings would not teach them anything Skittles Jan 2014 #130

Amen - Tiger Beat mentality Aerows Jan 2014 #136

Oh Tiger Beat. I loved that, Autumn Jan 2014 #139

One word Fumesucker Jan 2014 #145

? what is that supposed to mean Skittles Jan 2014 #165

The latter of course my dear ass kicking comrade Fumesucker Jan 2014 #176

aw man Skittles Jan 2014 #177

"The crew will snap to and present arms if the USS Inevitable should make port on the Potomac." SMC22307 Jan 2014 #317

That was priceless. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #330

I'm still chuckling. :-) SMC22307 Jan 2014 #335

Some for Hillary, perhaps, but not to this degree IMO LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #245

Damn, you guys are way too kewl. ProSense Jan 2014 #143

The ROFL of Desperation LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #246

No. It's just improv to cover for a failed fax machine. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #265

Errrr eoooww errr Aerows Jan 2014 #322

. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #337

PS Aerows Jan 2014 #137

SOP for that crowd. bvar22 Jan 2014 #148

I have most of them on Ignore because I fnd them pitiful Skittles Jan 2014 #166

It's crazy how the ignorables line up on all the republican issues bobduca Jan 2014 #171

I can't do the ignore. Titonwan Jan 2014 #186

aw you know I enjoy a good fight Skittles Jan 2014 #238

IMO, the real classification isn't republican issues LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #247

I agree, taking a nap. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #180

You will find most of the control freaks have no real platform to stand on Rex Jan 2014 #287

Indeed. Aerows Jan 2014 #308

I'm so old, that I remember the days we actually had policy debates. Rex Jan 2014 #312

You're way too optimistic about them coming back to their senses. JVS Jan 2014 #274

Oh, how I love DU. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #118

Me too Aerows Jan 2014 #129

There was a thread on Tuesday Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #141

Glad to hear it Aerows Jan 2014 #147

And they also said NSA acted legally and the only way to fix it was elect a better Congress. pa28 Jan 2014 #125

I think this needs to be bumped Aerows Jan 2014 #127

that is true Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #133

Can you point us to comments of substance on today's address? Coyotl Jan 2014 #134

That's not the goal. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #158

rec Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #142

Thank You, cali. bvar22 Jan 2014 #150

Kick for making the right people angry and incoherent. bobduca Jan 2014 #159

it is entertaining, isn't it? Skittles Jan 2014 #170

Very! bobduca Jan 2014 #173

the eagerest vociferations of the "I don't like Obama" crowd Sheepshank Jan 2014 #163

Thank you for your kind words Titonwan Jan 2014 #191

It's frustrating. Bradical79 Jan 2014 #178

+1 LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #250

No offense, but I've noticed a "black & white" attitude jazzimov Jan 2014 #179

A lot of us spent time looking at right wing forums during Dick n' Dubya's Excellent Adventure Fumesucker Jan 2014 #181

Oh it's now here too. Titonwan Jan 2014 #200

Hot off the 'Talking Points' press. SaveOurDemocracy Jan 2014 #183

Hateful thread. I've never supported the NSA or the Patriot Act and I still think this thread Number23 Jan 2014 #187

+1 Hekate Jan 2014 #223

The insults and personal attacks outnumber the recs considerably. And it ain't the president's Number23 Jan 2014 #225

Bullshit. You've aggressively attacked NSA critics and whistleblowers. Marr Jan 2014 #293

I think the crybaby act is because this thread hits home to about 5 or 6 people Rex Jan 2014 #302

Jesus Christ. NOT YOU AGAIN Number23 Jan 2014 #340

That might have been the saddest attempt at changing the subject I've ever seen. Marr Jan 2014 #346

I have no need to change the subject. The subject has always been the same Number23 Jan 2014 #347

... Marr Jan 2014 #350

I've not defended the NSA ONCE. But this is EXACTLY the type of lying garbage that you are Number23 Jan 2014 #351

No. /nt Marr Jan 2014 #354

Even the jury has seen through what you're trying to do. We'll see what Skinner says next Number23 Jan 2014 #355

What are you talking about? /nt Marr Jan 2014 #356

Doesn't everyone have an ignore feature? Lol. I was given the same order, so were others. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #360

That's very kind of you. :D Marr Jan 2014 #361

They pull that act with everyone. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #353

I thought I'd seen those accusations of stalking before. Marr Jan 2014 #357

You're wasting your time. I see the same old 'leave me alone' and 'you're stalking me' routine. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #359

It's so cute to see 3 of the FOUR people that I've repeatedly asked to put me on ignore Number23 Jan 2014 #366

I asked you to put me on ignore, please do so. That is all I have to say to you. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #367

You've never asked me to and I've never needed to. You don't say anthing I find interesting Number23 Jan 2014 #368

Please do not address me again. I asked you to use your ignore feature years ago. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #369

But weren't you the one braying upthread about how sooooo terribly weird it was Number23 Jan 2014 #370

If you have a refutation of the original premise, let's hear it. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #363

Very cultish, indeed. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #201

I thought it was all about "protecting the 4th" and didn't matter that the perps are RWNJs? ucrdem Jan 2014 #210

Dang Cali...... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #213

It's not just this Scootaloo Jan 2014 #214

Excellent summary and recap.[n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #216

God, no kidding. The revisionism about Syria was just fucking shameful. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #217

Utterly dishonest revisionism. joshcryer Jan 2014 #220

Thank you, joshcryer Hekate Jan 2014 #230

TBH, I thought it was plausible. joshcryer Jan 2014 #248

No, josh. Scootaloo's summary is accurate. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #242

Yeah? Show me ONE BOG post advocating for war. joshcryer Jan 2014 #244

Ok. Sorry, josh, if there's any inaccuracy... I never frequent the BOG Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #249

It is an act of war and a war crime. joshcryer Jan 2014 #251

It is an act of war and a war crime. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #257

Yep, you and me both. I was very much against attacking Syria. stevenleser Jan 2014 #318

What a brilliant post! Puglover Jan 2014 #255

That has to sting. demmiblue Jan 2014 #267

No. I am one of many BOGgers who was against attacking Syria. stevenleser Jan 2014 #284

You are going to piss off the worshippers ...they will be alert stalking you. L0oniX Jan 2014 #289

Obama will not be "reigning in" the NSA. joshcryer Jan 2014 #218

These two Bush appointees will sort it out, naturally! bobduca Jan 2014 #292

+1 L0oniX Jan 2014 #296

"ways to get around any roadblocks" Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #336

redefining terms joshcryer Jan 2014 #344

Now I understand the reason for that nonsense, word salad thread. Thanks. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #224

Clown Dance Party bobduca Jan 2014 #290

My favorite part. Savannahmann Jan 2014 #227

Most of the people I've heard praising the NSA are terrified of spiders too. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #229

A well thought out opinion with nuance that blistering critics from both parties can ignore..... marble falls Jan 2014 #252

Very few were 'vociferous'. randome Jan 2014 #253

No they aren't, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #254

Way to go, cali! Enthusiast Jan 2014 #259

Ahh jeez BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #260

I think the attitude of the people you are criticising is simply this is not a hair-on-fire issue. DCBob Jan 2014 #261

that was predictable, wasn't it? stupidicus Jan 2014 #263

One difference remains, however. randome Jan 2014 #268

Nope. I defended the administration and there are no significant changes now. Just as I said stevenleser Jan 2014 #269

20,000 security letters and how many terrorist have they caught? L0oniX Jan 2014 #294

K&R for exposing the dishonesty and absurdity of the propaganda. nt woo me with science Jan 2014 #272

"cult of adoration" indeed but the worshippers can't see that. L0oniX Jan 2014 #273

That's because they're salesmen. Marr Jan 2014 #279

K&R for pissing off all the right people! Rex Jan 2014 #281

"The Right People" bobduca Jan 2014 #286

Well you can see them crying like babies in this thread, I guess getting exposed for being Rex Jan 2014 #304

bog doth protest too much bobduca Jan 2014 #305

... Rex Jan 2014 #306

That sounds like hatred treestar Jan 2014 #328

Of course it does to you. Rex Jan 2014 #329

we can always count on you to bring people together nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #327

If by people you mean "braying mules" then you're exactly right Number23 Jan 2014 #343

I have to admit to kinda liking cali arely staircase Jan 2014 #345

If someone takes both positions, is more likely they are paid to do so yurbud Jan 2014 #352

I am so fricking proud of DU lately. woo me with science Jan 2014 #371

It is, isn't it? So refreshing to see the truth win out over the propaganda sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #372