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24. they're all out paying half the price for a computer just as good or better lol nt

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Where are all the Apple haters now??? Mike Daisey admits to being in theater not journalism. He took [View all] Pisces Mar 2012 OP

there are independent reports about their manufacturing processes so yeah, I still 'hate' roguevalley Mar 2012 #1

I hope you include Microsoft. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #21

I include them all, Nadin. None of them are there for good reasons. I hope to god that roguevalley Mar 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author TroglodyteScholar Mar 2012 #93

The guy you are referring to IS Mike Daisey... targetpractice Mar 2012 #39

I have no idea what you are even talking about. You and the dozen or so others who kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #2

Mike Daisey wrote a theatre piece about Steve Jobs oberliner Mar 2012 #34

It wasn't false either - he reported incidents from other reports adigal Mar 2012 #75

What did Apple do now? Rex Mar 2012 #3

Yeah, I have no idea what the Apple and Daisey ranting is about. kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #4

Sometimes cults are hard to understand. Rex Mar 2012 #6

Hopefully the OP recorded the sermon to which he's reacting. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #10

Dasey had a story on this American life nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #25

It is a 'cult of personality' issue. Rex Mar 2012 #48

So does Microsoft nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #49

Absolutely correct. Rex Mar 2012 #54

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #55

I have my post powerful system Rex Mar 2012 #57

It is about the factories over in China where people Maraya1969 Mar 2012 #53

Just don't buy any product that is electronic nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #56

Then don't BUY. Remember that Apple advertising encourages massive waste. Pholus Mar 2012 #60

How exactly does an IPad with an aluminum case nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #73

"Greenest electronics" is a marketing line. Pholus Mar 2012 #78

If you want to continue this line your prerrogative nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #80

I get the impression you're more worried about "Apple hate" than the problem. Pholus Mar 2012 #81

"The sociopathic behavior of Apple cultists . . ." Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #82

Are *you* posting about profits for every company you buy stuff from? Pholus Mar 2012 #90

Interesting interpretation... TroglodyteScholar Mar 2012 #94

Go on, continue to broad brush nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #83

I notice you have no comments about the specifics. Big picture indeed... Pholus Mar 2012 #91

I did before nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #92

So you got nuttin then.... Pholus Mar 2012 #98

Mike who? Iggo Mar 2012 #5

I'm lost as well Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #7

He wrote a play about Steve Jobs oberliner Mar 2012 #35

Journalism is theater, always has been ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #8

So true. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #20

Foxconn still sucks and Apple is just one of the many corporations think Mar 2012 #9

china is not now nor has ever been 'communist' KG Mar 2012 #11

Oooh an Apple thread sharp_stick Mar 2012 #12

Oh good, someone is finally standing up for the lil' guy. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #13

Thankfully the company already provides a safety net for its workers: think Mar 2012 #14

Now that's an efficient safety net. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #17

It's crappy to mischaracterize a company Aerows Mar 2012 #15

Apple stuff is still made in a hellish sweat shops alongside all the other electronic crap KG Mar 2012 #16

The reason that Apple is targeted with these exposés isn't shcrane71 Mar 2012 #18

I can bet that the majority of items made in China wether they be electronics or toys have poor Pisces Mar 2012 #22

Both Pepsi and Coke suck but only Coke has a history of killing union workers: think Mar 2012 #30

True, but the top dog is the consumer that wants cheap products. Most of our things come from China Pisces Mar 2012 #33

Apple products are not cheap. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #38

Doesn't Apple have more money than most countries? nt shcrane71 Mar 2012 #41

I don't feel ripped off. I have a great computer that is easy to use and has never had a virus. Pisces Mar 2012 #43

Actually it would run sixty extra on the top end nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #76

If industry leaders, like Apple, would insist on better pay scales shcrane71 Mar 2012 #37

Here is the problem nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #74

everything he mentioned has been widely documented elsewhere bowens43 Mar 2012 #19

Another reason to hate apple they hate Freedom and free software. Aerows Mar 2012 #26

That is not true. former9thward Mar 2012 #31

I'll admit you WON if you can find Mike Daisey's name in this article... Pholus Mar 2012 #32

They did NOT "pull the program". It aired in early January and today they offered a "retraction". A HERETIC I AM Mar 2012 #45

They pulled the 'facts' that were aired on the January program. former9thward Mar 2012 #46

I listened to the entire program today! A HERETIC I AM Mar 2012 #47

Perhaps a list of retracted facts might get your point across more effectively. Pholus Mar 2012 #50

Sure former9thward Mar 2012 #51

Thanks, you just made my point for me. Pholus Mar 2012 #58

You said all of these conditions were documented elsewhere. former9thward Mar 2012 #61

LOL. I thought the line was "EVERYBODY makes stuff at Foxconn," (the suicide plant). Romulox Mar 2012 #62

The suicide claim has been debunked. former9thward Mar 2012 #65

Nonsense. That's a bogus comparison. The correct comparison is to a similar US manufacturing plant. Romulox Mar 2012 #67

A similar US manufacturing plant??? Really??? former9thward Mar 2012 #70

Cities have jails. And mental hospitals. And homeless people. And junkies. Foxconn got those, too? Romulox Mar 2012 #71

China does not have homeless people and junkies. former9thward Mar 2012 #79

Your assertions are simply bizarre and inaccurate. Moreover, they are entirely irrelevant. nt Romulox Mar 2012 #89

You can't answer facts. former9thward Mar 2012 #95

Foxconn isn't a city. Fact. China has a huge heroin problem. Fact. Your claims are ludicrous. n Romulox Mar 2012 #99

LOL. Fact. Facts don't matter when you argue with marketspeak. Pholus Mar 2012 #102

Thanks Pholus! I really appreciate your posts to this thread. nt Romulox Mar 2012 #103

Right back at you! :) nt Pholus Mar 2012 #104

Funny I have never seen that in the two times I have been to China. former9thward Mar 2012 #105

So is that "fact" a strength in your opinion? Pholus Mar 2012 #101

Here you go. The last time I showed you this list you just went away. Pholus Mar 2012 #77

Oh a story in the Times which was the only paper former9thward Mar 2012 #96

So that's your final answer? Bzzzzzt! You lose!!!! Pholus Mar 2012 #97

LOL. Yeah, if you want to go by what's in the *paper*, yes, Apple is a human rights abuser... Romulox Mar 2012 #100

+1 to Rom and Phol on the entire discussion. Keep on rockin! NT Mc Mike Mar 2012 #106

bill maher talking to mike daisy in feb frankroberts Mar 2012 #23

they're all out paying half the price for a computer just as good or better lol nt msongs Mar 2012 #24

Responsibility lies with the consumer randr Mar 2012 #27

No crickets here! NYTIMES and ABC investigations stand unchallenged. Pholus Mar 2012 #28

Yep, it's already being used to push apathy and justify this relationship. joshcryer Mar 2012 #42

+ 1. This smells like Karl Rove's "MemoGate" gambit in '04. Mc Mike Mar 2012 #64

The apple ad demonstrates its superiority to Microsoft - what can you say? saras Mar 2012 #29

Daisey's narrative has untruths. Doesn't change that others have reported the same stuff. joshcryer Mar 2012 #40

This American Life did NOT cancel the show. It aired in early January. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2012 #44

This does not exonerate Apple or any other tech company alarimer Mar 2012 #52

Daisey sounds like a false-flag propagandist. Wonder if Apple is paying him? nt Romulox Mar 2012 #59

I for one am so glad about this travesty of reporting being corrected by reality. Safetykitten Mar 2012 #63

Thanks Sk. You beat me to the punch by ~ 20 mins., but I gear up slowly. NT Mc Mike Mar 2012 #66

What an overdramatic take on this RZM Mar 2012 #68

i hear a spirited defense of Apple's heinous labor practices. dionysus Mar 2012 #69

Ask and ye shall receive. n/t hughee99 Mar 2012 #72

Don't worry, we're still here. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2012 #84

Sorry, my outrage is not based on Apple. It's based on OFFSHORING. Zalatix Mar 2012 #85

Dell nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #86

Well, what computer maker doesn't contribute to the RNC? Zalatix Mar 2012 #87

The intelligent ones contribute to both parties nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #88