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Bluenorthwest

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82. How odd that you favor the death penalty while I agree with Pope Francis and oppose it.

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:26 AM

Jan 2014

Makes one wonder about that whole 'I support the Pope' routine. Got to say, opposition to the death penalty is one of the things I highly respect about the current RCC. In the past they executed thousands, up though the 1800s. But not anymore.
So what I see here is that when it is about the death penalty, I stand with Francis while you oppose us, but when it is about choice or equality for LGBT people, you suddenly find yourself supporting Francis while he and I part ways.
Very interesting stuff.

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I think there are acts that PERMANENTLY disqualify a person from participation in human society. [View all] cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 OP

Excellent post JJChambers Jan 2014 #1

How do you feel about the innocent people who have been put to death? Are you okay with that? Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #2

That's why I prefer the solution CFLDem Jan 2014 #4

I'm NOT okay with that. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #5

That is a different issue JJChambers Jan 2014 #77

Sorry, not buying it. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #3

My solution is incarceration until death. With the caveat that the convicted gets to decide cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #9

You have your opinion and I have mine. I disagree. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #11

So you have no problem killing innocent people. nt RedCappedBandit Jan 2014 #17

Wow...thats a true straw-man argument. Welcome to ignore. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #19

No, it isn't. RedCappedBandit Jan 2014 #21

How odd that you favor the death penalty while I agree with Pope Francis and oppose it. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #82

Not debatable for me. Maedhros Jan 2014 #18

Not saying it's debatable. I think in certain things people simply disagree. Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #22

have to disagree backwoodsbob Jan 2014 #93

couldn't let it go U4ikLefty Jan 2014 #6

You think it's horrible to incarcerate him for the rest of his life and let him cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #7

That post was disgusting and it was hidden. U4ikLefty Jan 2014 #8

You know what I thought was strange about the hidden post? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #12

Yes it's a conspiracy!!! U4ikLefty Jan 2014 #14

What about the content was "over the top"? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #16

The part where you advocate continuous torture..? RedCappedBandit Jan 2014 #25

I reported it. It was sadistic blood lust. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #55

.... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #80

have to agree backwoodsbob Jan 2014 #94

Jury schmury! RandiFan1290 Jan 2014 #70

Let's agree that some people might deserve the death penalty. How do you make certain pnwmom Jan 2014 #10

You can't. That's all there is to it. nt RedCappedBandit Jan 2014 #20

I agree. As long as there is a death penalty, prosecutors will use the threat of it pnwmom Jan 2014 #32

+1. This! It's why I am against it. joshcryer Jan 2014 #28

GREAT post! Thanks for laying this out so clearly. (n/t) Jim Lane Jan 2014 #58

The death penalty is regressive and barbaric AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #13

I gotta agree with you there. nt cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #52

Agreed! Demanding revenge should be one of them. flvegan Jan 2014 #15

I suppose it should HURT too. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #23

this is crap, is there anyone who is defending what he did ? i'm pretty sure everyone agrees what he JI7 Jan 2014 #24

I get the sentiment. I do. TDale313 Jan 2014 #26

"...it diminishes all of us." CrispyQ Jan 2014 #85

You don't have to agree with the entire platform you know. joshcryer Jan 2014 #27

Yeah, this ^^^ TDale313 Jan 2014 #39

Am I the only person who wonders how other countries manage without a death penalty? SheilaT Jan 2014 #29

Yeah, well, Portugal legalized drugs, if everyone jumped off a bridge, would you too? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #36

actually they decriminalized possession, but close enough. Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #71

stable western democracies don't practice the death penalty - not anymore - Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #30

I don't feel that my political beliefs are bound -- or formed -- by my political party. pacalo Jan 2014 #31

The Innocent Man is a great book which everyone should read. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #83

I pity you tkmorris Jan 2014 #33

Executing the killer did not resurrect the victim or heal the survivors. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #34

Just because some people behave like bloody-minded murdering bastards doesn't mean I have to. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #35

He's a monster and needs to be permanently removed from society. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #37

What is this shit? Scootaloo Jan 2014 #38

Just one more thought for those who oppose the death penalty in any and all circumstances: colorado_ufo Jan 2014 #40

Prisons are normally organised according to the risk the prisoner represents muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #64

Almost every other developed democracy manages to have humane incarceration systems Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #72

I'd be lying if I didn't acknowledge an instinct for revenge. MADem Jan 2014 #41

I'm pretty ambivalent on the death penalty. BlueEye Jan 2014 #42

Regional? Well Michigan which is not so far away was the 1st English speaking Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #84

I woudln't deny for a second that what he did was heinous. that has little do cali Jan 2014 #43

Killing to punish killing. Killing as a deterrant to killing. FUCKING INSANITY cali Jan 2014 #44

I agree. Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #45

Aside from the DP discussion, what is the point of you refering to the party platform? redgreenandblue Jan 2014 #46

Heart felt, highly emotional, and still flat out wrong. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #47

Registering for a Party doesn't mean you are legally bound to do anything JI7 Jan 2014 #48

arguments against the dp politicman Jan 2014 #49

There is one, and only one reason to support the death penalty, period. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #54

nobody defended what he did. Nobody defended inflicting pain or suffering--except you fishwax Jan 2014 #50

wow. a well deserved hide. advocating torture? sick, sick shit of the ugliest kind. shocking. cali Jan 2014 #51

I reported it. It was disturbing in a way I've never seen on here before. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #56

well, thanks fro alerting on it. cali Jan 2014 #60

NEVER a reason for capital punishment - the state does not have a right to take a life DrDan Jan 2014 #53

I agree 2000%... sendero Jan 2014 #57

for me, one individual, however heinous his acts, is not the point cali Jan 2014 #59

This is absolutely disgusting. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #61

It's pretty upsetting cali Jan 2014 #62

The level of fantasizing and planning involved in such a proposal is... Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #63

It is honestly frightening infoviro Jan 2014 #75

Rather new to be throwing around suggestions like that, aren't you? A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #81

I don't think this is evil or disgusting, but I do think it's misguided. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #65

One of the reasons that I am 100% avebury Jan 2014 #66

For years I was on the fence about the death penalty and maybe it was never clear for me davidpdx Jan 2014 #67

His crime was awful, no question. I still oppose the death penalty. Shrike47 Jan 2014 #68

There are people in this country who do horrible things. surrealAmerican Jan 2014 #69

In principle, I don't disagree Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #73

Crime victims suffering is not the reason for the DP to begin with treestar Jan 2014 #74

Death jollyreaper2112 Jan 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Ilsa Jan 2014 #78

While opposing the penalty in principle, I also don't give a hoot for folks like Dennis McGuire Kaleva Jan 2014 #79

He had a nearly 25 year reprieve from his fate. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #86

thank you for remembering the victims hfojvt Jan 2014 #87

How many Innocent people have been put to death? B Calm Jan 2014 #88

NO NO NO SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2014 #89

I see what you're saying, but Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #90

Then, all of the sudden, you have Australia! n/t A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #91

Lol. Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #97

But here's the problem . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #92

"But I could equally say that nowhere in your argument is there any mention of the incalculable pnwmom Jan 2014 #95

Thank you . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #96