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In reply to the discussion: One cannot simultaneously want the TPP and economic justice for the 99% [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)122. oh, pooh-pooh! The TPP will bring prosperity, opportunity, and bouquets of fresh elderberries
to the 99%, and especially indigenous folks, everywhere.
Just like NAFTA did.
NAFTA at 20: Lori Wallach on U.S. Job Losses, Record Income Inequality, Mass Displacement in Mexico--1/3/14
Mexico: Rural workers and indigenous denounce 20 years of destruction 1/8/14
January 14, 2014
"Failed Everywhere It's Been Tried"
The Deadly Wages of Free Trade
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/01/14/the-deadly-wages-of-free-trade/
Back in the mid-1990s, the signatories to the North American Free Trade Agreement promised that the border town of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico would become the model city for the new free trade pact. Indeed, it has become a model city for NAFTA, but not in the way its architects had intended. Thus, rather than becoming a showcase for economic development and prosperity which free trade promised to usher in, Ciudad Juarez instead has become a city plagued by murder rates equivalent to nations at war, and has witnessed the bizarre phenomenon of femicide which has violently claimed the lives of around 400 girls and young women since the passage of NAFTA. [1]
In a similar vein, the port town of Buenaventura has become the poster child for the Colombia Free Trade Agreement. Even before the FTA was finally ratified by Congress and signed into law by President Obama in October of 2011, violence began to plague Buenaventura as armed paramilitary groups vied for control of the new ports being built in preparation for the influx of trade which the FTA was to bring. Thus, in September of 2011, acclaimed human rights advocate, Father Javier Giraldo, S.J., wrote to U.S. Ambassador P. Michael McKinley of
the permanent genocide that is being carried out in Buenaventura, where the neighborhoods and the Community Councils around the port are being invaded by paramilitaries supported or tolerated by the armed forces. They cut people in pieces with horrifying cruelty throwing the body parts in to the sea, if any of them dare to resist the megaproject for the new port. This included the expulsion of people living in the poorest areas and it includes the expropriation of the plots of garbage dumps where these people, in the midst of their misery, have over decades tried to survive. [2]
pdf Heading South
U.S.-Mexico trade and
job displacement after NAFTA
Economic integration and deregulation hurt workers in Canada, Mexico, and the United States
http://epi.3cdn.net/fdade52b876e04793b_7fm6ivz2y.pdf
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One cannot simultaneously want the TPP and economic justice for the 99% [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Jan 2014
OP
yes but one can PRETEND to want economic justice for the 99% until one gets the TPP passed! nt
msongs
Jan 2014
#4
That's one of the better questions. Sunlight is probablhy the cure, but you can't bring enough alone
jtuck004
Jan 2014
#8
Krugman said it was nothing really to tout if you're for it or grieve over if you're against it.
ProgressSaves
Jan 2014
#6
Dr. Krugman is both brilliant and on the right side, socially. But keep in mind that he is
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#36
You return trolls are so easy to spot. Good Riddance. I'll catch you again next time.
morningfog
Jan 2014
#120
nt = no text in the subject part of the response. The title is the full reply /nt
think
Jan 2014
#154
"It's been my experience . . . " since when - January 2 when you joined the site?
markpkessinger
Jan 2014
#87
One can't be for higher/progressive taxes, stronger unions, an effective safety net, a strong middle
pampango
Jan 2014
#13
Since Canada and Mexico are part of the TPP (which will supercede NAFTA), I would say the
pampango
Jan 2014
#16
Agreed. It a bit of a misnomer to call it a 'free trade' agreement, perhaps why those words are not
pampango
Jan 2014
#94
We know they are in there but don't yet know how strong and effective they are.
pampango
Jan 2014
#50
Nor can one want the TPP and transparent, non-corrupt governance simultaneously.
Faryn Balyncd
Jan 2014
#15
Lol, the hyperbole and hatred in this post is pretty classic. "sick, sick" "sociopaths" "violently
geek tragedy
Jan 2014
#40
Frightened that this will go through, I'm wonder what the hell to do about it then.
Ed Suspicious
Jan 2014
#51
Truthfully, I don't think there is any creditable proof NAFTA ITSELF caused problems. The world has
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#101
Actually, I have never believed anyone but Oswald did it. This TPP, however, sure has become a
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#110
You too can't produce a concrete example of how it will hurt. And, I doubt you have the credentials
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#129
Surely you can respond with a a phrase of a few words, if you know of negative consequences.
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#131
Why should we impose our environmental laws on others. Heck, most are better than ours.
Hoyt
Jan 2014
#148
Manny.... It's all in the definitions. Everyone knows that the 0.01% knows best
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#66
K&R Every investor in Wall St is paying for it. No one works harder for it than them. nt
raouldukelives
Jan 2014
#81
"TPP is being pushed by The Only HopeTM for economic justice: ergo, it'll serve the 99%"
MisterP
Jan 2014
#109