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274. Everyone I know in the middle class has 401ks etc.

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:23 PM

Jan 2014

Maybe I live in the upper middle class. I need stats on that.

Shareholders reinvest in the stock market. Very few rich people are going to actually hoard. They know money makes money.

How the TPP would work only against us though? Foreign investors can take over our companies, but wouldn't American ones take over industries in the other countries? And isn't the point of something like the TPP to require a country like Vietnam to raise its standards so we aren't at a disadvantage? I am not such a cynic that I automatically believe that our negotiators are really trying to screw us all over. Lobbying goes on with everything. I'm not that cynical about that either, in that the Unions likely lobby too, and organization do lobby for the progressive side on many issues.

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Who determined that the NSA and TPP are the most important issues? [View all] ProSense Jan 2014 OP

Is this a serious thread? YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #1

Yes, very serious. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #2

What happens with the TPP and the NSA are incredibly serious issues... YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #4

Yes, they're serious ProSense Jan 2014 #6

The American people have decided how important they are. That's how democracy works. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #35

The OP is how "democracy works." I am one of the American people. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #54

Wrong. The corporate media has decided how important they are. No democracy was involved. baldguy Jan 2014 #131

It's difficult if not impossible to bestow obxhead Jan 2014 #279

People can disagree treestar Jan 2014 #148

I certainly agree about income inequality over NSA hfojvt Jan 2014 #180

Nice rant :) Egnever Jan 2014 #3

Thanks. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #11

Wall Street reform? PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #5

Please ProSense Jan 2014 #8

Do you deny that crimes took place on Wall Street? YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #10

What does that have to do with the point of the OP? ProSense Jan 2014 #13

This adminstration's notable lack of prosecutions on Wall Street.... YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #17

Has nothing to do with the point. Nothing. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #22

Yes it does because you listed it as one of the accomplishments BuelahWitch Jan 2014 #33

No, I didn't friggin list prosecution of crimes as "one of the accomplishments". ProSense Jan 2014 #42

The lack of prosecutions is important because it demonstrates that while Obama likes to talk JDPriestly Jan 2014 #62

No, "prosecutions" are not "important" to the point I made. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #82

The lack of prosecutions places in question Obama's sincerity on the economic inequality issue. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #115

Again ProSense Jan 2014 #118

bwahahahahaha. yikes. yikes. yikes. cali Jan 2014 #129

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #144

IKR!?! Rex Jan 2014 #353

Yes! They are. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #280

No, it's not and no amount of text is going to make it relevant to the point. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #281

Because you can not successfully move forward PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #18

Simplistic BS, and that still has nothing to do with my point. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #21

It has everything to do with it. PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #24

No, it doesn't, and maybe you should reread the OP. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #25

Facepalm PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #30

Again, ProSense Jan 2014 #34

Prosense PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #36

There were plenty of legal grounds to prosecute some of the bankers based on old fashioned fraud JDPriestly Jan 2014 #66

Good grief with the proseuctions ProSense Jan 2014 #69

A heads up. There is a twitter hash tag... Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #114

Wow, that's some stupid shit. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #116

Kerrraaaazzzzeeee! Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #117

Someone did a phony alert on this- pretending you're calling the OP a Nazi!! bettyellen Jan 2014 #125

When you're losing an argument on the internet, go for the Godwin. baldguy Jan 2014 #133

You've got the wrong Nazi baldguy Jan 2014 #132

Goebbels was the Reich minister of propaganda n/t Fumesucker Jan 2014 #142

And Goering made the relevant comment. baldguy Jan 2014 #250

The package of regulations didn't deal with the most important cause of the corruption. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #40

OK, you don't think it goes far enough. What does that have to do with the point? ProSense Jan 2014 #47

You are ignoring one very important thing that has so angered the American people wise politicians sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #65

What do crimes have to do with the point of the OP? ProSense Jan 2014 #75

Mortgage companies and banks committed fraud but the individuals who actually committed the JDPriestly Jan 2014 #56

There is still ProSense Jan 2014 #64

They're too busy with more important things.... YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #9

So why does he support the TPP? flying rabbit Jan 2014 #7

What does that have to do with my point? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #12

To save time I would direct you to the subthread that begins with post 31 flying rabbit Jan 2014 #143

TPP is unrelated to the plight of the middle class income disparity? Bonobo Jan 2014 #14

Did I say that? No, I fucking didn't. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #15

Good to see we agree. nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #28

Bingo. One month before ACA goes live we get Eddie, Glenn, and Senator KY ucrdem Jan 2014 #16

Because the Fourth Amendment is a precious right. It is a matter of safeguarding the Constitution. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #70

The many, many millions buying smartphones and going online don't seem terribly worried ucrdem Jan 2014 #81

"their precious right to privacy" Hissyspit Jan 2014 #119

It's all cool until a Republican wins the Presidency and then neverforget Jan 2014 #165

Single Issue advocates.... stevil Jan 2014 #19

Dismsising a whole slew of great progressive activists as "single issue advocates"? YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #20

Like Julian Assange, the RW Libertarian? And Snowden, the Rand Paul acolyte? ucrdem Jan 2014 #26

What you are doing is dismissing the millions of Democrats who opposed these policies from the sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #44

Sabrina... Snowden, Glenn and Randy do not represent millions of Democrats. ucrdem Jan 2014 #63

This NSA is populated with Bush appointees and loyalists. Why? Why were they not all fired? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #76

McChrystal and Petraeus were also Bush holdovers Obama reappointed. ucrdem Jan 2014 #93

'Snowden and Greenwald didn't expose any' I guess that's why Obama was surprised by what he learned sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #130

"any statutory or ethical violations that would merit disciplinary action," and no, ucrdem Jan 2014 #135

So we were lied to again when we were told that Obama was surprised when he heard they had spied sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #138

You didn't give a link, date, name, quote, or title so all I can surmise ucrdem Jan 2014 #140

Same old bullshit, hunh? Hissyspit Jan 2014 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author stevil Jan 2014 #27

Who stopped fighting back? neverforget Jan 2014 #23

Well, ProSense Jan 2014 #29

Lol okay. How you get to there from that is neverforget Jan 2014 #32

.. Egnever Jan 2014 #48

Personally, I think that economic inequality is the biggest issue of our time. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #72

Because lip service about the minimum wage while pushing the TPP NuclearDem Jan 2014 #98

What ProSense Jan 2014 #101

"Free Trade" has done so much to screw up the economy since the 1990's. That it IS a core issue Armstead Jan 2014 #31

Again, ProSense Jan 2014 #37

"You illustrated my point perfectly." bobduca Jan 2014 #41

God no kidding. nt Puglover Jan 2014 #159

TPP is a continuation of previous "free trade policies" whose results are already known. Armstead Jan 2014 #43

"And we're trying to prevent it from becoming law." ProSense Jan 2014 #52

You are doing your usual nitpicking Armstead Jan 2014 #60

"Perhaps it is not THE most important issue." ProSense Jan 2014 #67

As far as I'm concerned you (anyone) can focus on any damn issue they want Armstead Jan 2014 #77

That's ProSense Jan 2014 #83

I dion't see much of that going on, but feel free to fret about it if you want Armstead Jan 2014 #92

It happens a lot. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #95

So this is whining about how others rank the importance of issues? Why should it matter Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #167

No, it's not. ProSense Jan 2014 #170

Big Ed had seven Democratic congress members come on his show today think Jan 2014 #71

It will be if people ignore it. Which is the answer to your question. Why is it so important now? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #55

Great post, so thanks Sabrina 1. n/t truedelphi Jan 2014 #134

No, ProSense Jan 2014 #145

But Obama is sponsoring TPP. That's why we don't totally believe his sincerity about dealing JDPriestly Jan 2014 #74

So? That's on you...what you choose to believe. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #79

It's about things not adding up - but of course, you know that. polichick Jan 2014 #292

"TPP isn't a fucking law yet"????? OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #294

Well, ProSense Jan 2014 #297

Yes. See post #37 OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #300

Where does ProSense Jan 2014 #302

Yes, that is what it implies. OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #310

No, it doesn't. ProSense Jan 2014 #312

Zzzzzzzzzz OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #314

Tax cuts for the rich, corporate deregulation, 'right-to-work laws', slashing the safety net pampango Jan 2014 #136

How does the TPP affect any one of those things? treestar Jan 2014 #149

You thought the Bush economy was fine? JAYSUS! No wonder folks are world's apart on economics TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #189

Please explain exactly how NAFTA caused it all treestar Jan 2014 #190

What can't be traced to free trade? laundry_queen Jan 2014 #191

No, it's those who claim NAFTA caused consequences treestar Jan 2014 #203

NAFTA included provisionbs that made it eassier and more attractive to remove econoimic sovergnty Armstead Jan 2014 #205

Where have we been unable to set standards for our goods and services? treestar Jan 2014 #207

Try reading the services, financial serv and ag chapters of NAFTA, the WTO, or OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #307

Nice deflection laundry_queen Jan 2014 #206

NAFTA has been accused of causing all sorts of ills treestar Jan 2014 #209

Well, I understand economic issues laundry_queen Jan 2014 #242

How would the TPP make outsourcing even easier? treestar Jan 2014 #262

The percentage of middle class people that benefit enough from the stock market to make a difference laundry_queen Jan 2014 #268

Everyone I know in the middle class has 401ks etc. treestar Jan 2014 #274

1) To countries offering the lowest wages and most lax environmental regulations... SMC22307 Jan 2014 #271

That would happen anyway treestar Jan 2014 #276

The overall results of NAFTA on the working class are negative in both the US and Mexico. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #366

How do we know that? treestar Jan 2014 #381

Your post suggests ronnie624 Jan 2014 #398

uncalled for conclusions about me treestar Jan 2014 #402

I said it was "as if". ronnie624 Jan 2014 #403

The only solution is some type of isolationism? OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #305

You said the economy was fine, I did not say that NAFTA was the sole cause TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #395

Opposition to TPP needs to be mobilized now. moondust Jan 2014 #38

Some dude even gave a boring speech about the NSA today. think Jan 2014 #39

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #45

This is the most sadly amusing post I've seen all day Armstead Jan 2014 #50

Yup...... think Jan 2014 #51

Thankfully MIRT'd before he could start any flames bobduca Jan 2014 #58

Wow welcome to DU Egnever Jan 2014 #73

The TPP is a big obstacle to better wages for working people and for lifting up the middle class. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #46

Potentially, ProSense Jan 2014 #53

The most important issue is free and fair voting. If the corps control our votes, all other issues rhett o rick Jan 2014 #49

Even on this ProSense Jan 2014 #88

Wow that's a lot of schutf and links. But none will matter if our votes go thru rhett o rick Jan 2014 #246

If none of it mattered ProSense Jan 2014 #252

My point is you can register millions and fix gerrymandering rhett o rick Jan 2014 #265

Answer: anyone who is even a casual student of history. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #57

How about you let each DUer decide for themselves what the most important issues kelly1mm Jan 2014 #59

The President did, by giving a speech today about the window dressing you are calling reform bobduca Jan 2014 #61

You decided NSA was important. Not long ago, you were posting almost Hourly Anti-Snowden, Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #68

No, I didn't. I can post about a number of things often and in a timely manner. ProSense Jan 2014 #78

Lol! Revise history much? Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #84

"often and in a timely manner" n/t bobduca Jan 2014 #85

My point stands. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #86

So does mine Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #96

Posting a statement published in WaPo is an "NSA screed"? ProSense Jan 2014 #97

True, not screed this particular one. Just Pro NSA propaganda Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #99

Thanks for acknowledging that the point was false. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #102

That one particular post. You sometimes posted screeds. But it was mostly Pro NSA propaganda Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #106

Nonsense. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #108

Lol!! Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #122

I've come to believe that when that account posts the word "nonsense"... Marr Jan 2014 #231

"I can post about a number of things often and in a timely manner." Hissyspit Jan 2014 #123

"So can other people." ProSense Jan 2014 #146

Do an advanced search for the threads you started between June 6 and July 3 in GD muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #141

Ridiculous ProSense Jan 2014 #160

So are you saying we shouldn't pay any attention to your threads, because you babble muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #161

What the hell are you talking about? Suggestion ProSense Jan 2014 #162

You say 'Volume doesn't equal "most important."'; so I ask you what does equal "most important" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #163

Good grief ProSense Jan 2014 #164

You still aren't saying how we're meant to know what you think is important muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #166

You're ProSense Jan 2014 #168

So you can't justify starting about 5 NSA threads per day for a month, and then complaining muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #169

What the hell does "starting" threads about the NSA have to do with my point? ProSense Jan 2014 #171

No, it's when you start 150 of them in a month, a clear majority of the threads you started muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #177

Well, ProSense Jan 2014 #181

Your verbal gymnastics are energetic LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #172

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #174

I know, right? LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #179

Again, ProSense Jan 2014 #182

Au contraire LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #183

Here's the deal ProSense Jan 2014 #184

Then every last one of us missed the point. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #413

Not true, but I can see why you'd want to believe that. ProSense Jan 2014 #414

I do have to say, Prosense has always been on top of the NSA. Way back to 2006 Autumn Jan 2014 #249

Yes, ProSense Jan 2014 #293

Nailed it! whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #216

+1 Marr Jan 2014 #229

Our Planet is ultimately the most important issue.. Cha Jan 2014 #80

Agreed the planet is the most important issue. Egnever Jan 2014 #87

.. Cha Jan 2014 #91

Today, Nebraska filed a lawsuit ProSense Jan 2014 #94

President Obama keeps trying to help our Environment without a Cha Jan 2014 #105

As long as it's up here. Just, wow... Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #89

Lame. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #90

Who decided? Well, apparently, a whole bunch of people. Maedhros Jan 2014 #100

He gives a lot of speeches ProSense Jan 2014 #104

Here in Calif., those of us in the know understand that truedelphi Jan 2014 #137

And Jerry Brown created a surplus. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #152

Do you know how he created that surplus? By cutting social programs, by cutting truedelphi Jan 2014 #267

Why do we shoot spies, but only imprison uniformed enemy? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #103

What ProSense Jan 2014 #107

Sneakiness magnifies these things in the minds of many. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #110

Fine, that's on you. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #111

you don't think the TPP will impact inequality and the middle class? why do I hear "Aegukka"? MisterP Jan 2014 #109

Nothing in my comments imply that, and I can help with your hearing. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #112

The most important issues? Really? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #113

^^ This ^^ Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #251

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Jan 2014 #121

The middle class is dying, yes. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #124

some force or group within government or the MIC that ... gives marching orders Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #248

Well, it's killing the working class, which is about 60 or 70% of the country. Deep13 Jan 2014 #126

Bravo. SoapBox Jan 2014 #127

gad. the everlasting gob stopper defense of Obama no matter what. cali Jan 2014 #128

Another ProSense Jan 2014 #150

I agree with you completely... giftedgirl77 Jan 2014 #192

On DU you know the names and they're good at milking the same issues. great white snark Jan 2014 #139

There is only ONE Democrat on record supporting the TPP. Max Baucus think Jan 2014 #156

The NSA is a tempest in a teapot treestar Jan 2014 #147

On another message board, we called what the OP is doing a "Clown Dance"... Romulox Jan 2014 #151

Freerepublic? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #153

The only "ex" freeper we have here on DU agrees with you 98% of the time. Ooops! Romulox Jan 2014 #154

The operative being "ex," huh? ProSense Jan 2014 #155

No. The operative word is "freeper". Rightwing bullshit with a (D) after it remains rightwing Romulox Jan 2014 #157

Obviously, you're an expert ProSense Jan 2014 #158

... MineralMan Jan 2014 #188

Nailed it. HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT THIS POSITIVE THREAD NOT THOSE OTHER ONES bobduca Jan 2014 #195

+ My household. n/t truedelphi Jan 2014 #269

If ridiculousness is the point, what's the purpose? polichick Jan 2014 #291

151 House Dems Telling President They Will Not Support Outdated Fast Track for TPP Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #173

? ProSense Jan 2014 #176

Incoherent and nonresponsive as usual Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #185

Maybe you can explain what the hell a letter to the President has to do with the OP? ProSense Jan 2014 #187

Maybe if we shout the answers at you they will get through to you? bobduca Jan 2014 #194

No, ProSense Jan 2014 #196

so you deny asking who determined that these issues are most important/ bobduca Jan 2014 #197

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #198

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #199

Clearly you don't, but you think you do. ProSense Jan 2014 #200

No clearly you need to think that or you wouldnt seem so condescending in every post bobduca Jan 2014 #201

That's called ProSense Jan 2014 #202

hey now we're into pro-sense response bingo bobduca Jan 2014 #204

Do you ever post anything that makes sense? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #208

my posts make plenty of sense bobduca Jan 2014 #210

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #212

QED bobduca Jan 2014 #213

See what a waste of time that was? Rex Jan 2014 #218

yep bobduca Jan 2014 #226

. Ghost Dog Jan 2014 #254

Obviously, it wasn't ProSense Jan 2014 #365

While I can respect your position, BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #175

My "framing is outdated"? ProSense Jan 2014 #178

I don't think any one person determined it but... hollowdweller Jan 2014 #186

I went ahead and decided that our surveillance state is pretty goddamned important. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #193

Ok, TPP has nothing to do with income inequality. DireStrike Jan 2014 #211

Wow, you offered your own theory and agreed with it ProSense Jan 2014 #214

I am looking for a job DireStrike Jan 2014 #239

Wait, ProSense Jan 2014 #240

LET THE SPIN BEGIN! whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #215

Couldn't come up with anything better? ProSense Jan 2014 #217

Didn't need to whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #219

Really? ProSense Jan 2014 #222

Well you spend every waking hour posting in this forum whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #228

Wow, ProSense Jan 2014 #232

DU Oxygen... rough estimate is 1 in 10 active posts...like owning the yellow and green properties... Octafish Jan 2014 #336

I like how this thread did not go any way, shape or form as attended. Rex Jan 2014 #220

Yep whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #223

We can dance if we want to! Rex Jan 2014 #224

"This thread" went exactly the way it was anticipated, including ProSense Jan 2014 #225

Nope went to shit and you cannot admit to it, it would cause you to admit to fault. Rex Jan 2014 #227

No it went to debate. ProSense Jan 2014 #234

Like I said, you lack the ability to find fault in yourself Rex Jan 2014 #260

Oh brother ProSense Jan 2014 #261

Debate? You're just angrily snarling at everyone. nt Union Scribe Jan 2014 #286

Maybe that's ProSense Jan 2014 #304

Let him pretend in his fantasy world that this thread went like he wanted it to. Rex Jan 2014 #349

I think they are very important issues. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #221

Good for you. What ProSense Jan 2014 #230

The NSA spying is one of the most important issues to me. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #233

That's fine. You seem ProSense Jan 2014 #236

I suppose you could ask your supervisor. Marr Jan 2014 #235

Yikes! ProSense Jan 2014 #237

What are you implying, Marr? MineralMan Jan 2014 #238

Marr please edit whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #243

I don't know ProSense Jan 2014 #245

Yes, excoriating the guy responsible for the reforms you now praise whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #247

Lots of fun, but evidently you're upset because ProSense Jan 2014 #253

Sad whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #255

Sorry to hear that. ProSense Jan 2014 #256

Well since you seem to know everything whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #257

I didn't claim to "know everything." n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #258

Can't say I expected an answer whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #259

Wow. demmiblue Jan 2014 #244

Valid suggestion in light of the posting pattern. polichick Jan 2014 #296

It seems idiotic to me. I mean, ProSense Jan 2014 #320

Is it "nasty" if it's true? As you know... polichick Jan 2014 #321

It's nasty because ProSense Jan 2014 #322

Could be true about anyone - but the payer would... polichick Jan 2014 #323

Yes, ProSense Jan 2014 #324

Look (as BO always says), I enjoy your posts - but the truth is... polichick Jan 2014 #325

Oh, ProSense Jan 2014 #326

Looks like I hit a nerve. polichick Jan 2014 #327

LOL! Ooh ProSense Jan 2014 #328

I'm not complaining about "nasty attacks" - your talking points don't upset me... polichick Jan 2014 #329

I see, ProSense Jan 2014 #330

I agree that you consider both their and my observations to be... polichick Jan 2014 #331

Do you ProSense Jan 2014 #332

Answered in #325 (regarding #298): polichick Jan 2014 #334

That's . ProSense Jan 2014 #341

Answered already - no, obviously. Why would I be afraid? polichick Jan 2014 #342

Good, you support nasty attacks that are against DU rule. ProSense Jan 2014 #345

Just because you call something a "nasty attack" doesn't make it one. polichick Jan 2014 #346

Do you disagree ProSense Jan 2014 #352

I disagree with you that it was a "nasty attack"... polichick Jan 2014 #355

You ProSense Jan 2014 #356

I don't feel "angry" or "pissed." Just calling it like I see it. polichick Jan 2014 #357

What do you see? Can you point to and provide actual evidence of what you "see"? ProSense Jan 2014 #358

You seem to be projecting. If you're interested in what I see... polichick Jan 2014 #360

That doesn't make sense. You're the one accusing people of being "paid shills/sock puppets" ProSense Jan 2014 #362

Where did I do that? polichick Jan 2014 #363

You know, it's becoming clear that you're deliberately not making sense. ProSense Jan 2014 #367

Can't find the quote? polichick Jan 2014 #368

Well, ProSense Jan 2014 #369

You'll have to do better than that. In #362 you said... polichick Jan 2014 #371

Hey, I'm "just calling it like I see it." ProSense Jan 2014 #373

I don't deny anything I said - I deny there's a quote that backs up your reading... polichick Jan 2014 #374

You're ProSense Jan 2014 #377

I stand by every post I made. Problem is they don't add up... polichick Jan 2014 #379

Let me ProSense Jan 2014 #380

Hint: In #362 you asserted that I am accusing people of polichick Jan 2014 #382

Why ProSense Jan 2014 #384

Are you afraid to own up to your projection? A simple apology will do. polichick Jan 2014 #385

Yup, ProSense Jan 2014 #387

Nice apology! polichick Jan 2014 #388

Must be a gang mentality thing Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #333

To me it looks like #298 was trying to call out "the gang." polichick Jan 2014 #335

Uhuh Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #337

Nice try. polichick Jan 2014 #338

Right Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #339

What are you talking about? polichick Jan 2014 #340

Seriously? Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #343

My response made sense. You could try that. polichick Jan 2014 #344

Uhuh. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #348

Still not making sense - what are you suggesting? Put it in words... polichick Jan 2014 #350

I did. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #351

And I said that #298 seemed to be calling out "the gangs"... polichick Jan 2014 #354

Playing dumb Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #359

It might help if you actually said anything or asked anything... polichick Jan 2014 #361

No, dear.... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #370

Finally, enough words to say what you mean... polichick Jan 2014 #372

To the bitter end.... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #376

Where's my "gang?" Perhaps you are projecting your gang... polichick Jan 2014 #378

Yeah Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #383

Still can't come up with that awful gang? polichick Jan 2014 #386

. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #389

Silliness doesn't get you off the hook. Gang names please. polichick Jan 2014 #390

Obtuse to the bitter end. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #393

I'm not the one dangling. You make an accusation - back it up... polichick Jan 2014 #394

Great post! OrwellwasRight Jan 2014 #309

The 1% decide EVERYTHING. nt valerief Jan 2014 #241

Unbelievable. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #263

Oh, ProSense Jan 2014 #264

No, you have an extremely high level of gall NuclearDem Jan 2014 #266

Actually, ProSense Jan 2014 #270

This thread went just splendidly donchaknow! Rex Jan 2014 #272

You can't seem to get enough of it. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #275

Yeah I know, I should stop posting in this epic failure. Rex Jan 2014 #347

Meh. 29 DUers agree with her. SMC22307 Jan 2014 #273

You know what's really funny? Marr Jan 2014 #298

Wow, ProSense Jan 2014 #316

Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. SMC22307 Jan 2014 #397

None. Puglover Jan 2014 #313

Yup, little ole irrelevant me. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #317

I do envy you however Puglover Jan 2014 #319

"Obama comes along, and is working to try to put the pieces back together" polichick Jan 2014 #277

It's ProSense Jan 2014 #282

And yet Elizabeth Warren wasn't made head of the bureau... polichick Jan 2014 #285

She ProSense Jan 2014 #287

And yet, as I said, she wasn't made head of it... polichick Jan 2014 #288

Here: ProSense Jan 2014 #289

The clip says Geithner and Obama fought for the agency... polichick Jan 2014 #290

The Hatch Act would have been violated. Can't you imagine the Issa hearing? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #391

OCPD... Obsessive�compulsive political disorder DCBob Jan 2014 #278

I don't know what "they" need. Puglover Jan 2014 #318

Ah, weekend prosense Union Scribe Jan 2014 #283

It seems ProSense Jan 2014 #284

Can't make the TPP smell like anything but shit, so try to marginalize and minimize it. djean111 Jan 2014 #295

Wait ProSense Jan 2014 #299

Exactly!!!!! To each his own! djean111 Jan 2014 #301

That ProSense Jan 2014 #303

Pardon me - more IMPORTANT is what I meant. djean111 Jan 2014 #306

No, it's ProSense Jan 2014 #308

Goodness, can't imagine thinking that at all! djean111 Jan 2014 #311

Good comment. Here ProSense Jan 2014 #315

Right on! Tired of the fratricide going on with Dems Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #364

Funny your OP here shows you doing just what you proclaim to hate Rex Jan 2014 #375

That's not even remotely true Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #392

I deem them, and the drone wars, the most important issues. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #396

Ending the costly trade agreements (&TPP) is essential to income equality. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #399

Some poster by the name of ProSense did, back in 2006: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #400

Awesome find. You win this thread, which is now an epic fail. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #404

I just can't get enough of that post. neverforget Jan 2014 #405

BTW, there's more than one Squealer on this thread friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #407

The cognitive dissonance is staggering! neverforget Jan 2014 #408

I sure you can't. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #410

Looks like *someone* wishes there really was a Memory Hole... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #411

Try reading comprehension, it's a good cure for BS mind reading. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #412

Why so grumpy?- after all, the chocolate ration just got increased! friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #415

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #416

When I ProSense Jan 2014 #409

agree..... madrchsod Jan 2014 #401

Here's ProSense Jan 2014 #406