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markpkessinger

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20. Optimism is one thing . . .

Reply to spanone (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:59 PM

Jan 2014

. . . and self delusion is another. I guess the line between the two can be pretty fine sometimes.

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A question for Mayor Zimmer of Hoboken, NJ [View all] markpkessinger Jan 2014 OP

My thought, too. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #1

She didn't want to endorse Bueno or Christie flamingdem Jan 2014 #2

Political survival would explain her public statements of admiration . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #3

Maybe he is very charismatic in person flamingdem Jan 2014 #6

I should have added the word "charm" to post #8 regarding John Edwards. n/t NCarolinawoman Jan 2014 #9

Well, my cousins think the world GP6971 Jan 2014 #26

Good point, flamingdem. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #5

I remember that photo and the video flamingdem Jan 2014 #7

Exactly! Zimmer was working for the people. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #15

I don't fault Mayor Zimmer for trying to work with the Governor at all . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #21

You used to live in Hoboken? Beacool Jan 2014 #27

Yes! It was a cold walk to the Path train along the Hudson everyday flamingdem Jan 2014 #30

The bakeries are still there. Beacool Jan 2014 #45

I agree, sheshe. She was in survival mode. pacalo Jan 2014 #13

Damn it pacalo. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #16

But clearly, prior to the Lt. Gov's attempted shakedown . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #22

I see what you mean -- what *did* she think of Christie when he belittled his own constituents pacalo Jan 2014 #28

didn't she also say that if she went along with christie on the rockefeller group idea, that she CTyankee Jan 2014 #35

Yes, she said that had she gone along with it, she'd have ended up in a courthouse pacalo Jan 2014 #42

I guess she reached her boiling point...she simply couldn't take it any more... CTyankee Jan 2014 #43

Candy Crowley asked her to square the fact that in Aug '13 Zimmer had praised Christie pacalo Jan 2014 #44

she was clearly afraid of what he could do to hurt her/Hoboken in retaliation. Scary, isn't it? CTyankee Jan 2014 #46

Yes, it is -- after what all we're learning, she's probably still afraid. pacalo Jan 2014 #47

Then she's best off being in the public eye. That way, he can't screw her over like he could CTyankee Jan 2014 #48

I agree, CTyankee. pacalo Jan 2014 #49

I wondered too why she had ever thought such a thing. polichick Jan 2014 #4

I think many people felt that way about John Edwards, and they were GOOD people who NCarolinawoman Jan 2014 #8

Perhaps that's it . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #19

Good comparison--honest people often cannot perceive badness... marions ghost Jan 2014 #32

Right. She projects her basically nice personality on other people, pnwmom Jan 2014 #37

I am one of those guilty of believing in John Edwards. I liked his message on the "two CTyankee Jan 2014 #38

Because Christie was the one that helped send the previous (crooked) mayor of Hoboken to prison Tx4obama Jan 2014 #10

Christie better watch his back if they ever become cellmates. Auntie Bush Jan 2014 #12

Well maybe this might explain it. Cleita Jan 2014 #11

These are Reagan Democrats. They are bought by the "us vs. them" mentality. immoderate Jan 2014 #14

This is a very red area and affluently white so even the Democrats Cleita Jan 2014 #18

Take a look at the actual figures for Hoboken and Hudson County, all Democratic wins Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #40

maybe she's an optimist spanone Jan 2014 #17

Optimism is one thing . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #20

Oh, she grasps it.... zentrum Jan 2014 #23

Good point . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #24

Your question is a good one marions ghost Jan 2014 #34

Republicans in Hoboken? FarCenter Jan 2014 #29

For the sake of clarification . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #25

You and me both. calimary Jan 2014 #31

Ex-actly. nt PCIntern Jan 2014 #33

She got her job because he was the crusading prosecutor who put her predecessor pnwmom Jan 2014 #36

About one third of NJ 'Democrats' voted for him. Moderate Centrists were in love with him Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #39

I would imagine that maybe in person, he's a likable guy justiceischeap Jan 2014 #41